The same-sex marriage referendum debate

Started by Hardy, February 06, 2015, 09:38:02 AM

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How will you vote in the referendum

I have a vote and will vote "Yes"
58 (25.2%)
I have a vote and will vote "No"
23 (10%)
I have a vote but haven't decided how to vote
7 (3%)
I don't have a vote but would vote "Yes" if I did
107 (46.5%)
I don't have a vote but would vote "No" if I did
26 (11.3%)
I don't have a vote and haven't decided how I would vote if I did
9 (3.9%)

Total Members Voted: 230

theskull1

#1065
Quote from: muppet on May 07, 2015, 12:05:31 AM
When I was young I had a teacher whose wife had died years earlier. He then married his wife's sister. That afaik, is still against Catholic Church teaching on the ludicrous grounds of 'affinity', There is no blood relationship, yet because of some twisted ideology from a really old book, it is a sin. Of course a sin becomes not a sin if His Holiness decrees it to be so, thus is possible they received Papal Dispensation. Is this nonsense still the case today?

The irony being that God impregnated his mother to father himself  :o
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muppet

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Eamonnca1

Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2015, 11:58:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 06, 2015, 11:55:03 PM
Still waiting, Tony.

Since you like to call for clarification, where do you stand on people being allowed to marry their granny?

If it ever arises I can assure you I won't be in favour.

J70

#1068
Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2015, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 06, 2015, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2015, 08:24:39 PM
So, should brother and sister marriages be included?

If that is directed at me, then no, obviously not. Inbreeding has bad enough effects when cousins marry.

But, surely marriage has nothing to do with children, according to yourself.

So what are you proposing, allowing them to marry and sterilizing them?

Unless a gay person decides to use a sibling as a surrogate parent, I don't see the relevance of brother-sister relationships to gay marriage.

Perhaps you can explain it.

DrinkingHarp

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Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2015, 11:58:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 06, 2015, 11:55:03 PM
Still waiting, Tony.

Since you like to call for clarification, where do you stand on people being allowed to marry their granny?

Does the gran have to still be alive, or what?

The Iceman

Quote from: DrinkingHarp on May 07, 2015, 04:24:00 AM
Pope says we must stand with our Gay/Lesbian Children

http://www.ibtimes.com/pope-francis-addresses-gay-marriage-church-should-support-families-lgbt-children-1742369

Church has said that all along - only Tony thinks different.

Quote from: DrinkingHarp on May 07, 2015, 04:24:00 AM
God is not afraid of new things - Pope Francis

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/19/pope-homosexuality-church-gay_n_6010904.html

Read the article - aside from being a year old it was all about the headline. Pope Francis pulled everyone back then and since.
church isn't changing - some things are being communicated differently. Content and delivery. Francis is about better delivery.
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armaghniac

Quote from: J70 on May 07, 2015, 03:26:33 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2015, 10:10:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 06, 2015, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2015, 08:24:39 PM
So, should brother and sister marriages be included?

If that is directed at me, then no, obviously not. Inbreeding has bad enough effects when cousins marry.

But, surely marriage has nothing to do with children, according to yourself.

So what are you proposing, allowing them to marry and sterilizing them?

Unless a gay person decides to use a sibling as a surrogate parent, I don't see the relevance of brother-sister relationships to gay marriage.

Perhaps you can explain it.

ok then is it ok for a man to marry his father, or a daughter her mother? Or indeed a man to marry his mother, if she is past child bearing age?
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

topcuppla

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 07, 2015, 01:13:19 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2015, 11:58:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 06, 2015, 11:55:03 PM
Still waiting, Tony.

Since you like to call for clarification, where do you stand on people being allowed to marry their granny?

If it ever arises I can assure you I won't be in favour.

What if the granny had a sex change and became the granda, would that be ok?

general_lee

Quote from: topcuppla on May 07, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 07, 2015, 01:13:19 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2015, 11:58:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 06, 2015, 11:55:03 PM
Still waiting, Tony.

Since you like to call for clarification, where do you stand on people being allowed to marry their granny?

If it ever arises I can assure you I won't be in favour.

What if the granny had a sex change and became the granda, would that be ok?

muppet

Quote from: topcuppla on May 07, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
What if the granny had a sex change and became the granda, would that be ok?

Surely that is a matter for your own family?
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laoislad

Quote from: topcuppla on May 07, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 07, 2015, 01:13:19 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2015, 11:58:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 06, 2015, 11:55:03 PM
Still waiting, Tony.

Since you like to call for clarification, where do you stand on people being allowed to marry their granny?

If it ever arises I can assure you I won't be in favour.

What if the granny had a sex change and became the granda, would that be ok?

I'd say you watch some mad porn...

Between sex changed grannies and all the gay stuff you watch you must have yourself pulled asunder.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

topcuppla

Quote from: laoislad on May 07, 2015, 11:04:19 AM
Quote from: topcuppla on May 07, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 07, 2015, 01:13:19 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2015, 11:58:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 06, 2015, 11:55:03 PM
Still waiting, Tony.

Since you like to call for clarification, where do you stand on people being allowed to marry their granny?

If it ever arises I can assure you I won't be in favour.

What if the granny had a sex change and became the granda, would that be ok?

I'd say you watch some mad porn...

Between sex changed grannies and all the gay stuff you watch you must have yourself pulled asunder.

According to you it would be totally natural to be aroused by transsexuals or homosexuals, so why are you using it in a derogatory way.  As I keep saying you would all shit a brick if your child told you they were gay, internet warriors who harbor prejudicial thoughts but like to feel good and post happy gay right thoughts.  You are a hypocrite. 

laoislad

Quote from: topcuppla on May 07, 2015, 12:13:11 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 07, 2015, 11:04:19 AM
Quote from: topcuppla on May 07, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 07, 2015, 01:13:19 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 06, 2015, 11:58:10 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 06, 2015, 11:55:03 PM
Still waiting, Tony.

Since you like to call for clarification, where do you stand on people being allowed to marry their granny?

If it ever arises I can assure you I won't be in favour.

What if the granny had a sex change and became the granda, would that be ok?

I'd say you watch some mad porn...

Between sex changed grannies and all the gay stuff you watch you must have yourself pulled asunder.


According to you it would be totally natural to be aroused by transsexuals or homosexuals, so why are you using it in a derogatory way.
As I keep saying you would all shit a brick if your child told you they were gay, internet warriors who harbor prejudicial thoughts but like to feel good and post happy gay right thoughts.  You are a hypocrite.
Where did I say that?
Not saying it is or isn't natural but I think you are confusing me with someone else.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

topcuppla

You must therefore think it is unnatural if you are using it in a derogatory way?