Man Utd Thread:

[snoopdog]

Looks like we've turned into Liverpool, able to raise ourselves for a game against the big sides but then play shite against the bread and butter teams.
Was hoping i'd never see the day 

That's how we played in the 80s. This team has no balls and no leaders. Spurs could hammer them next sat if Utd play like today.

[David McKeown]

Terrible performance today not assisted by very poor refereeing. That said you can't use that as an excuse. It happens to all teams through out the season. Hope they improve on Saturday as I'm flying over

[magpie seanie]

Last week Manchester United beat the best team in the league away and today getting beaten at home by the worst team in the league. That lack of consistency must be very frustrating for any Manchester United supporter.

Last week they were abject until forced to attack by being 0-2 down.

The problem is obvious and I've been saying it since before the appointment. Mourinho is a dinosaur. Clearly the players don't buy into or can't buy into his prehistoric tactics. City might have a marginally better squad (or might not) but Liverpool don't and they're likely to make the CL final and are 1 point behind United in the table. After all the money United have spent???

I'm sick of it.

[BennyCake]

Has Smalling ever defended a corner without pulling an opponents shirt? Why doesn't he learn how to f**king defend? How he gets his place is beyond me.

[Maroon Manc]

Poor performance, players didn't look interested from early on. I haven't seen the stats but a huge percentage of the goals we concede come from set pieces which is just bizare when you look at the size of the team. 3 of the 4 goals conceded against City this season were from set pieces.

Huge game next week although thoughts are firmly on next season already.

[magpie seanie]

Poor performance, players didn't look interested from early on. I haven't seen the stats but a huge percentage of the goals we concede come from set pieces which is just bizare when you look at the size of the team. 3 of the 4 goals conceded against City this season were from set pieces.

Huge game next week although thoughts are firmly on next season already.

What's going to change?

[Armamike]

Last week Manchester United beat the best team in the league away and today getting beaten at home by the worst team in the league. That lack of consistency must be very frustrating for any Manchester United supporter.

Last week they were abject until forced to attack by being 0-2 down.

The problem is obvious and I've been saying it since before the appointment. Mourinho is a dinosaur. Clearly the players don't buy into or can't buy into his prehistoric tactics. City might have a marginally better squad (or might not) but Liverpool don't and they're likely to make the CL final and are 1 point behind United in the table. After all the money United have spent???

I'm sick of it.

As a Liverpool supporter there are very few Man u players i'd want in the Liverpool first team. De Gea, that's about it.

[Maroon Manc]

Poor performance, players didn't look interested from early on. I haven't seen the stats but a huge percentage of the goals we concede come from set pieces which is just bizare when you look at the size of the team. 3 of the 4 goals conceded against City this season were from set pieces.

Huge game next week although thoughts are firmly on next season already.

What's going to change?

Better players will come in.

[Maroon Manc]

Last week Manchester United beat the best team in the league away and today getting beaten at home by the worst team in the league. That lack of consistency must be very frustrating for any Manchester United supporter.

Last week they were abject until forced to attack by being 0-2 down.

The problem is obvious and I've been saying it since before the appointment. Mourinho is a dinosaur. Clearly the players don't buy into or can't buy into his prehistoric tactics. City might have a marginally better squad (or might not) but Liverpool don't and they're likely to make the CL final and are 1 point behind United in the table. After all the money United have spent???

I'm sick of it.

As a Liverpool supporter there are very few Man u players i'd want in the Liverpool first team. De Gea, that's about it.

The league table would suggest otherwise.

[oakleaflad]

Last week Manchester United beat the best team in the league away and today getting beaten at home by the worst team in the league. That lack of consistency must be very frustrating for any Manchester United supporter.

Last week they were abject until forced to attack by being 0-2 down.

The problem is obvious and I've been saying it since before the appointment. Mourinho is a dinosaur. Clearly the players don't buy into or can't buy into his prehistoric tactics. City might have a marginally better squad (or might not) but Liverpool don't and they're likely to make the CL final and are 1 point behind United in the table. After all the money United have spent???

I'm sick of it.

As a Liverpool supporter there are very few Man u players i'd want in the Liverpool first team. De Gea, that's about it.

I find that hard to believe. I think only Van Dijk and Salah would really improve Uniteds first 11. Another debate can be had for tactics/style of play but player for player United are stronger.

[magpie seanie]

Form and tactics count for a lot (and tactics have a direct impact on form). This time last year everyone would have wanted a handful of Chelsea players in their side. The year before a few Leicester lads. Everyone would love a few city players now....

[AZOffaly]

As you say, playing style makes it hard to compare some lads, but I suspect Salah, Firmino, Mané, Robertson, Van Dijk and maybe TAA would be knocking around the Man United Team.

For Liverpool I'd love Rashford. Imagine him on a Klopp team!? Matic would be nice too.

[Geoff Tipps]

As you say, playing style makes it hard to compare some lads, but I suspect Salah, Firmino, Mané, Robertson, Van Dijk and maybe TAA would be knocking around the Man United Team.

For Liverpool I'd love Rashford. Imagine him on a Klopp team!? Matic would be nice too.

Wouldn't mind DDG either!

[AZOffaly]

As you say, playing style makes it hard to compare some lads, but I suspect Salah, Firmino, Mané, Robertson, Van Dijk and maybe TAA would be knocking around the Man United Team.

For Liverpool I'd love Rashford. Imagine him on a Klopp team!? Matic would be nice too.

Wouldn't mind DDG either!

Ah yeah, I was just adding. Armamike mentioned him and said he was the only one.

[magpie seanie]

Poor performance, players didn't look interested from early on. I haven't seen the stats but a huge percentage of the goals we concede come from set pieces which is just bizare when you look at the size of the team. 3 of the 4 goals conceded against City this season were from set pieces.

Huge game next week although thoughts are firmly on next season already.

What's going to change?

Better players will come in.

Who though? Who is going to come in that will make the manager change his tactics?

Bar Ronaldo or Messi there's probably not much more that can help United in an attacking sense without an adjustment to the approach. The Sanchez signing has underlined how awful it is for attacking players to play in this team.

In midfield - the manager loves Matic who despite my early season delight has his limitations. A partner for him who is in the Michael Carrick mould of a good incisive passer and excellent at covering and reading a game is needed. Is Modric a possibility?

At the back the regular shout out is for full backs but to be honest, Valencia or Young rarely let the side down. I'm not sure who Mourinho would buy that would improve matters. Remember - he doesn't like his FB's getting forward down the line (like we'd be used to). I'd say he'd have no interest in a Seamus Coleman for example. Whoever comes in there will be at most a minimal upgrade. I've defended Smalling and Jones over the years and both have had periods in their careers where you think "at last he's proving he's up to it" followed by poor form, injury etc. They're still better than Lindelof to be honest so United could do with an upgrade to play with Bailly. I'm open to suggestions but I'm not seeing any obvious candidate. As you've mentioned (or maybe it was someone else) conceding goals from set pieces doesn't need new players to limit. It's coaching and hard work on the training ground. And attitude. And frankly the attitude of this group looks poor.