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Feck me thats a big pile of sanctimonious shite.

In the 2 games i saw players react to sumthing off the ball and get lined. I dont know why, probably would have needed to be in the close vicinity to know. Its a discussion board, not a court of law so we are allowed to speculate or pose the question.

But surely after two games you'd have seen something to back up your point. You watched Derrytresk twice and can't give one example of them using "dark arts", except that one of their players got hit. Yet you still feel the need to suggest that this is something they do on a regular basis. That just seems a bit strange to me.

Armamike, I'm not in the slightest bit touchy, im just a bit confused why you are asking this question about Derrytresk when you saw them at first hand. You don't need to assume anything - you saw for yourself - why don't you give specific examples of what you saw in the two games that led you to make the accusations of Derrytresk indulging in dark arts throughout this campaign?

I was at the ulster semi and final. Those 2 games had men sent off for off the ball stuff. In the ulster semi eire ogs top forward hit out after bou1 min. Spot a theme?

So why are you asking if Derrytresk are well versed in the "dark arts"? You were at the games, you tell us. Did you see any evidence of this in the games you were at? I dont understand what your point is, if you saw Derrytresk play at close quarters twice, you should be well able to make a definitive judgement on their style of play stating examples of what the players did wrong, instead of making silly innuendos about dark arts.

Derrytresk in most of their games to date, since the ulster semi at least have seen the opposition have a player sent off. Either all these sides have had discipline issues or the hill men are well versed in the darker arts. Has ricey been taking any of their training sessions?

It takes a fair bit of thinking to arrive at that conclusion. There has been some pile of dung talked on this thread.

Were there other sendings off in the first round of ulster or in the tyrone championship. Thats three games in a row with sendings off. ItsSeems to be a lot of aggro around them.

Has any of the other teams complained about the Derrytresk tactics? Where you at any of the games? Or are you just making blind assumptions?

I could tell the media a story about someone grabbing my balls at work today? Does that mean that it happened? Also, why dont they tell the guards?

Is making up a story about having your balls grabbed at work something you're likely to do?

The Kerry folk as usual when beaten by a Tyrone outfit are trying to justify the defeat by creating an image about the game that they were beaten unfairly. This has become a great media story over the years and has become the ultimate outlet for lazy journalists who have f*ck all imagination to come up with new stories.

Standard strawman argument, I'm unlikely to bite but you may fire at will.

On your first point - no, I'm not likely to do that, but then I'm not trying to make up an excuse for my ineptitude. But if I did, it would be a sure fire way of tarnishing the reputation of someone and i would need significant evidence before even thinking about making the claim.

On your second point - The irony of a Kerryman accusing me of making standard arguments is not lost on me after listening to the drivel that comes out of your county everytime you lose to a Tyrone team.

Derrytresk in most of their games to date, since the ulster semi at least have seen the opposition have a player sent off. Either all these sides have had discipline issues or the hill men are well versed in the darker arts. Has ricey been taking any of their training sessions?

It takes a fair bit of thinking to arrive at that conclusion. There has been some pile of dung talked on this thread.

Reading not a strong point? I'm addressing the running to the media to complain approach. I don't care if it was bollock-bating or eyebrow-tweezing.

There is absolutely no reason why people should feel reluctant to tell the media if something like that happens to them on the pitch.

It's a matter for the guards in my humble opinion, but if a media campaign can help educate these animals who think this sort of assault has any place in a civilised society, never mind on a sports field, then that avenue should be exercised to the absolute maximum.

I could tell the media a story about someone grabbing my balls at work today? Does that mean that it happened? Also, why dont they tell the guards?

The Kerry folk as usual when beaten by a Tyrone outfit are trying to justify the defeat by creating an image about the game that they were beaten unfairly. This has become a great media story over the years and has become the ultimate outlet for lazy journalists who have f*ck all imagination to come up with new stories.

I've already posted on this topic earlier to say that this sort of violence has no place in our games - but the holier than thou bullshit that comes from Kerry folk when it comes to football makes me sick.

Just watched last nights 49ers game. What on earth was Kyle Williams doing. The poor lad has had a nightmare with those two howlers. Manning showed a fair bit of steel after being dumped on his ass six times. As a 49ers fan though I'm gutted, thought the defence was outstanding and didn't deserve to lose that.

I've only seen the clip, it doesn't make good viewing and it leaves me thinking at what stage the GAA are actually going to take some steps to stamp this shit out of our games. It doesn't matter who started it or whose to blame. I love good hard hitting football but officials, supporters and subs should, under no circumstances, be encroaching onto the field of play and making any contact with players. We need to protect those actually playing and long suspensions should be given EVERY time an incident like this happens. Some day we'll all be commenting on this board about someone getting seriously injured, but sure that's probably all part of the craic and as long as we didn't start it.

Oh no .... What a miss!!

Congrats to Derrytresk - some achievement, best of luck at Croker!

You will tend to miss these things when you are a championship supporter and only think the GAA exists in the summer!

McKenna Cup attendances up 40%
20 January 2012

As the competition reaches its penultimate stage with the semi-finals down for decision this weekend - two more mouth-watering clashes featuring Derry V Down and Tyrone V Fermanagh Pt II in a double bill - Ulster Council admits the gates have been a big improvement on last season.

The 40% increase was epitomised by the 7,000-strong crowd that travelled to Omagh to watch the meeting of neighbours Tyrone and Fermanagh on Wednesday night.

Provincial secretary Danny Murphy says there have been two main reasons for the upturn: "Weather conditions are far better and we've been lucky with the draw and the number of local matches.

"Down and Armagh was up 50% on last year and the Canavan factor had an impact on Wednesday. It's probably slightly unfortunate Tyrone play Fermanagh again in the semi-finals on Sunday but, without being certain, we'd expect around 5,000 for the double bill in Armagh."