Donegal V Tyrone Ulster Final 17th July

Started by never kickt a ball, July 03, 2016, 11:12:37 PM

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Main Street

Even when Tyrone win a very tough game, the blinkered whining about the ref's decisions is trademark.
Just can't let it drop, enjoy the moment and bask in the glow for a few hours. 

mrdeeds

Tyrone hard done by by ref. How was there no red card for kick on Cavanagh?

Il Bomber Destro


omaghjoe

Quote from: Main Street on July 17, 2016, 04:27:56 PM
Even when Tyrone win a very tough game, the blinkered whining about the ref's decisions is trademark.
Just can't let it drop, enjoy the moment and bask in the glow for a few hours.

Ahh Main St we missed you this past week, where have you been? Youd nearly think you were dumped out of the championship by Longford or someone


Time get the bunting out again we are on the march to Croker and we would like our subordinates to display suitable homage

Main Street

Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on July 17, 2016, 03:54:53 PM
Quote from: grounded on July 17, 2016, 03:52:22 PM
A lot more in that Tyrone team. I think they could give Dublin their fill of it.

They will give Dublin a good game but the advantages they had over Donegal (more pace and more scoring options) won't be there against Dublin....and they will not be allowed walk the ball up the pitch like they did today
Most definitely the QF and SF are a forgone conclusion for Tyrone.

Moortown Spuds

Ah T Fearon-the gift that keeps on giving!!!

Murphy can be silenced, I think McCarron had an excellent game. Was poor to watch. Very poor. Donegal run forward 10 yards until the meet contact where the then turn back and pass to another who runs 10 yards. Like a f*cked up version of rugby league.

omaghjoe

Quote from: Throw ball on July 17, 2016, 04:23:45 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 17, 2016, 04:11:25 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2016, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 17, 2016, 03:34:03 PM
Nonsense. That is the donnelly incident you are describing. The murphy one was not like that at all. All the commentators said it too.

Well Tommy Carr said so, so that must be the final word! ;D

McCann released the ball and ran into Murphy's chest with his shoulder immediately after. Tell us, please, where was Murphy supposed to go?

Donnelly had more time to get out of his way than Murphy did, if we are going to quibble over fractions of seconds.

Just because the Donnelly one was harsh or unjust doesn't mean that Murphy deserved one.

Within the context of the match tho he had to be consistent and he wasnt

First Donegal foul of the match  was one, and there was another in the 2nd by Thompson

Lets not forget Tyrone had a penalty too that wasnt given

Your independence has to be questioned though.

Thought referee let a lot go. If he hadn't match would have been worse. Have seen black cards given for Donnelly type incident before. Harsh and I think it was called by linesman. Murphy was not even close to a card never mind black. Although Thompson could have seen red the Tyrone player who got caught on camera punching Murphy could have got red much earlier. Watched the whole game on TV and do not recall where Tyrone should have got a penalty.

Take you win and walk away. The sooner this game is forgotten about the better.

Penalty was Murphy's foul on Brennan in the 2nd half

"This take the win and walk away" talk is nonsense and irresponsible, the referee was rubbish and made very bad and inconsistent calls and it needs to be pointed out otherwise their standard will continue to abysmal.  This remains the case win or lose!

And sure if we had lost it would be sour grapes  ::) ... so gotta show the consistency that I want the referees to display

The Stallion

Donnelly black card fully deserved, and if the second one was for mouthing he can have no complaints. The kick on Cavanagh should have been a straight red though.

Tyrone were the better team and deserved their win, awful to watch though apart from last ten minutes.

lenny

Quote from: north down on July 17, 2016, 03:59:16 PM
RTE seem to be biting back - they didn't show the presentation or Cavanagh's speech. Will be interesting to see if they show the Leinster presentation!

Nearly all the pundits stuck up for tyrone in the black card incidents and some other dodgy decisions by the ref. The directors and overlords of rte need to take action and have a word to make sure the pundits know to maintain their campaign of bias against Tyrone.

BennyHarp

Quote from: The Stallion on July 17, 2016, 04:54:51 PM
Donnelly black card fully deserved, and if the second one was for mouthing he can have no complaints. The kick on Cavanagh should have been a straight red though.

Tyrone were the better team and deserved their win, awful to watch though apart from last ten minutes.

If we are asking a player to leave the field for either of those incidents then the rules are an ass. Further proven to be ridiculous by the lack of consistency or fairness. 20 minutes  later Connelly gets yellow for head locking someone and wrestling him to the ground, players don't know whether they are coming or going.
That was never a square ball!!

The Stallion

If players don't foul or mouth they won't have to worry about cards. Time they took some responsibility for their actions.

north down

Not sure what the rule book says. Is mouthing a black card offence or are the officials just making the rules up again?

Throw ball

Quote from: omaghjoe on July 17, 2016, 04:54:33 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on July 17, 2016, 04:23:45 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 17, 2016, 04:11:25 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2016, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 17, 2016, 03:34:03 PM
Nonsense. That is the donnelly incident you are describing. The murphy one was not like that at all. All the commentators said it too.

Well Tommy Carr said so, so that must be the final word! ;D

McCann released the ball and ran into Murphy's chest with his shoulder immediately after. Tell us, please, where was Murphy supposed to go?

Donnelly had more time to get out of his way than Murphy did, if we are going to quibble over fractions of seconds.

Just because the Donnelly one was harsh or unjust doesn't mean that Murphy deserved one.

Within the context of the match tho he had to be consistent and he wasnt

First Donegal foul of the match  was one, and there was another in the 2nd by Thompson

Lets not forget Tyrone had a penalty too that wasnt given

Your independence has to be questioned though.

Thought referee let a lot go. If he hadn't match would have been worse. Have seen black cards given for Donnelly type incident before. Harsh and I think it was called by linesman. Murphy was not even close to a card never mind black. Although Thompson could have seen red the Tyrone player who got caught on camera punching Murphy could have got red much earlier. Watched the whole game on TV and do not recall where Tyrone should have got a penalty.

Take you win and walk away. The sooner this game is forgotten about the better.

Penalty was Murphy's foul on Brennan in the 2nd half

"This take the win and walk away" talk is nonsense and irresponsible, the referee was rubbish and made very bad and inconsistent calls and it needs to be pointed out otherwise their standard will continue to abysmal.  This remains the case win or lose!

And sure if we had lost it would be sour grapes  ::) ... so gotta show the consistency that I want the referees to display

As a neutral I thought the referee was consistent. Too many times decisions can go either way. That is a rule problem not a referee problem. The best we can hope for is that referees are consistent during the game. If another referee had have been in charge today there would have been a massive number of frees. The referee also has to listen to the other match day officials. Tyrone were not on the receiving end of any critical blatantly wrong decisions. Even the black cards are a matter of opinion. At the minute that counts as a good day for a referee.

Throw ball

Quote from: north down on July 17, 2016, 05:09:44 PM
Not sure what the rule book says. Is mouthing a black card offence or are the officials just making the rules up again?

Think it can be black or red.

Wildweasel74

Its Black, about time you men looked up what black card offense are