Tyrone v Armagh - Ulster Championship 2009

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bigpaul

#1080
May 31, 2009, 09:40:00 PM
When I saw Charlie Vernon's form in the league this year I was hoping that PMc D would use him,Toner and Paul McGrane in a formation accross the middle but Paul's retirement put paid to that hope. Having seen James' performance today I think he should accomodate all three in this sector.

gerry

#1081
May 31, 2009, 09:48:53 PM
Suprised to hear that conor got man of the match as i though justin had a better game. 
God bless the hills of Dooish, be they heather-clad or lea,

Maguire01

#1082
May 31, 2009, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on May 31, 2009, 06:45:22 PM
Meant to add I was once again not impressed with McEanney today who I thought was very inconsistent.  As talked about earlier the brining back of the O Neill chance in the first half and the allowing play to go for Clarkes goal highlighted it perfectly.  I dont think hes anywhere near as good as he was years ago and is certainly not the top referee in the country anymore.  Although i accept I will probably not be in the majority on this one and his performance may next to know bearing on the result today
Just watching The Sunday Game. Cahill, McStay and Cinnéide were falling over themselves to praise McEnaney's game - Cahill was ready to give him man of the match. Mickey Harte was vocal in his praise also.

thejuice

#1083
May 31, 2009, 10:22:54 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00ktlqk/The_Championship_2008_09_Tyrone_v_Armagh/

watch it again here,

didnt see the 2nd half yet, the pitch must be very soft, even the kickouts werent bouncing normally and some of the passes didnt travel as far they normally would. Good enough game but alot of poor shooting in the 1st half though O'Neill took his goal well.
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016

Maguire01

#1084
May 31, 2009, 10:25:46 PM
Quote from: thejuice on May 31, 2009, 10:22:54 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00ktlqk/The_Championship_2008_09_Tyrone_v_Armagh/

watch it again here,

didnt see the 2nd half yet, the pitch must be very soft, even the kickouts werent bouncing normally and some of the passes didnt travel as far they normally would. Good enough game but alot of poor shooting in the 1st half though O'Neill took his goal well.
I thought the first half was brutal. Wasn't until the second half that there was any life to it. Some terrible shooting in the first half alright.

ExiledGael

#1085
May 31, 2009, 10:28:15 PM
I thought the stand out feature of the first half was dreadful kick passing from both sides.

aroundincircles

#1086
May 31, 2009, 10:32:03 PM
What does colm cavanagh ever do too justify game time Must be in trainning not a bad club  player never seems too do much in county games.

loughshore lad

#1087
May 31, 2009, 10:34:09 PM
Decent enough game today.  The weather made conditions difficult for the players and the pitch was dead as well.  Tyrone had that wee bit extra when required, encouraging display from Justin McMahon after struggling in the opening league games before picking up the injury in westmeath.  PJ played well in spells too.  Derry will be a totally different proposition though, it will be intriguing.

cadhlancian

#1088
May 31, 2009, 10:41:22 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on May 31, 2009, 08:42:34 PM
A strange game, there was a certain bit of "intensity" in the game yet at least for Tyrone, they didn't seem to be getting out of second gear at any time. Joe McMahon was MOTM for me, was out of steam after 50-55 minutes but gave it everything up until then, pitch & weather conditions would have tested the stamina of a lot of players out there and I reckon Mickey Harte made his substitutions at the right times. The softness and deadness of the pitch today probably came about from some fault in the drainage I reckon - conditions of the St. Tiernach's Park pitch have looked rather patchy over the last few years anyway. McEnaney did a reasonable job referring it, though as pointed out he allowed Clarke to play through advantage which was correct in my opinion, but the same should also have been done for O'Neill earlier. Other than that no real complaints.
Job done, now Tyrone vs. Derry, I reckon this one could be a bruiser depending on how the ref handles the game. Then just wait for the howls of "those who know best".

In the minors, Armagh just about deserved it I feel. Speaking to those in the know through schools football, there was no expectation on this Tyrone minor team to perform to the same heights as last year's. The full back line looked a bit suspect especially when they were stranded, while some of the forwards were too greedy and had little cohesion as a whole. Can't fault the placement of Armagh's two penalty kicks, but I feel the orchard boys as a whole have still plenty of work to do if they want to be achieving honours.
actually, a ref is supposed to blow the FIRST foul, no advantage to be given, this is what refs are instructed to do, hence what u just said wouldnt ever occur, as "playing an advantage" becomes a discretionary thing

Big Mickey

#1089
May 31, 2009, 10:44:02 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 31, 2009, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on May 31, 2009, 06:45:22 PM
Meant to add I was once again not impressed with McEanney today who I thought was very inconsistent.  As talked about earlier the brining back of the O Neill chance in the first half and the allowing play to go for Clarkes goal highlighted it perfectly.  I dont think hes anywhere near as good as he was years ago and is certainly not the top referee in the country anymore.  Although i accept I will probably not be in the majority on this one and his performance may next to know bearing on the result today
Just watching The Sunday Game. Cahill, McStay and Cinnéide were falling over themselves to praise McEnaney's game - Cahill was ready to give him man of the match. Mickey Harte was vocal in his praise also.

theres a good reason for that, cos he had a great game imo and thats from a tyrone persepective aswell. he was totally right in allowing clarke to go on and score because he had the advantage and to blow it up would be simply rewarding negative play. alright fair enough he didnt allow stevie the same luxury but that might not have been as clear. good perfromances from ref's is a rare so embrace it when it happens.


on another points, no way shpuld gormely have got motm, as much i think he's great, clarke got the better of him, shudve went to justy instead

aroundincircles

#1090
May 31, 2009, 10:45:05 PM
Justy mc mahon superb.

Maguire01

#1091
May 31, 2009, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: Big Mickey on May 31, 2009, 10:44:02 PM
on another points, no way shpuld gormely have got motm, as much i think he's great, clarke got the better of him, shudve went to justy instead
Was Clarke not held to one score (albeit a goal)? Surely that's a decent game for any defender.

RTÉ gave MOTM to Jordan.

gerry

#1093
May 31, 2009, 10:59:24 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 31, 2009, 10:47:08 PM
Quote from: Big Mickey on May 31, 2009, 10:44:02 PM
on another points, no way shpuld gormely have got motm, as much i think he's great, clarke got the better of him, shudve went to justy instead
Was Clarke not held to one score (albeit a goal)? Surely that's a decent game for any defender.

RTÉ gave MOTM to Jordan.

Well who give it to gormley
God bless the hills of Dooish, be they heather-clad or lea,
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