Belfast hotel sued over All-Ireland coverage

[Maroon Heaven]

If you advertise something and change it at the last minute because it suits others you must make alternative arrangements and address the problem.

I don't know anything about the GAA been advertised and from knowing the Hilton and their staff, its not a place where they put up a big sign and says "GAA FINAL ON HERE AT 3.30PM". I'd say it was more to do with a member of staff saying "Of Course we'll have the match on" and not knowing a thing.

So basically, if they didn't advertise it (which would appear to be the case), the Hilton don't have a case to answer?

Exactly and I would be certain they didn't. But if they did your guy would have a case, be it small and pitiful

[magickingdom]

Yes, that an establishment would refuse to show the game, on one of their many devices, is something that should be challenged and challenged robustly. F*ck the Hilton, Gaels take note.

only if its paris

[Bogball XV]

Is there nobody called Sammy Dutty?

cheers drici

[mylestheslasher]

About 6/7 years ago a couple of us stayed the Sat night in Belfast before we played Antrim in the championship. My brother had his Cavan jersey on at around 3pm and walked into a shoe shop in  the city center. The shop keeper threw him out for having a Cavan jersey (I assume it was any GAA jersey she took offense to). Therefore, I am not one bit surprised to read that the Hilton wouln't show the all ireland. I suggest people vote with their feet and avoid the Hilton brand.

[T Fearon]

I fail to see what doubt there is to the plaintiff's case and fair play to him for taking it and for Seamus for handling it (as to the question of a mutual friendship ,it is indeed and I was talking to him in the Premium section after Tyrone's recent fortuitous All Ireland semi final win over Wexford ).

I know this may be hard to grasp for those residing in the 26 counties but all legislation here, no matter how petty it may seem, is necessary to safeguard against unionist discrimination at all times. All public places must cater for the needs of both communities under the legislation,and to fail to show the AI Final on request is akin to not adequately servicing the needs of a disabled person. Add in other stuff like injury to feelings etc, I cant see how he doesn't have a case.

Undoubtedly he has a case and I have no doubt he will win (though the Hilton will settle out of court). As one who has had direct experience of these tribunals it is almost impossible for a defendant to win, and a smart barrister (Mr Brolly?) will take great delight in pushing this one.

[Maguire01]

My brother had his Cavan jersey on at around 3pm and walked into a shoe shop in the city center. The shop keeper threw him out for having a Cavan jersey (I assume it was any GAA jersey she took offense to).

No just Cavan jerseys - it's standard policy. 

[Maguire01]

TF - you didn't get around to answering this one:

The simplest solution for the hotel was to have tv sets in various locations in the premises, showing a choice of soccer or GAA, thus ensuring full complaince with the Fair Employment and Treatment Order.

So by that logic:
If your local was showing an Armagh game, and some punters wandered in and wanted to watch, say a Linfield game, and your local didn't have another TV and wouldn't switch over the GAA, they'd be a legitimate target for a discrimination case?

Also:

All public places must cater for the needs of both communities under the legislation,and to fail to show the AI Final on request is akin to not adequately servicing the needs of a disabled person. Add in other stuff like injury to feelings etc, I cant see how he doesn't have a case.

You really think so?!
And as for injuries to feelings...

[mylestheslasher]

My brother had his Cavan jersey on at around 3pm and walked into a shoe shop in the city center. The shop keeper threw him out for having a Cavan jersey (I assume it was any GAA jersey she took offense to).

No just Cavan jerseys - it's standard policy. 

In knew someone would make that predictable jibe and of course it would turn out to be a mushroom head from Monaghan

[Maguire01]

  Happy to have obliged slasher!

[T Fearon]

Maguire01. The answer is yes, the needs of both communities must be met.

[his holiness nb]

Maguire01. The answer is yes, the needs of both communities must be met.

Surely though showing Chelsea V Man Utd would appeal more to both sides of the community than a GAA game?
Same as it would be more appealing than a Northern Ireland game.

[T Fearon]

You are missing the point your Holiness. It has nothing to do with the relative appeal of the games.The Hotel has failed to treat the guy in the same manner as it treated soccer fans on this occasion. Thats what it boils down to as far as Tribunals are concerned up here, fair and equal treatment across the board. As it stands, the GAA final was being shown on terrestrial tv, it could easily have been shown in the hotel so they have no excuse. Any half decent barrister could make out that the guy was treated less equitably on account of his religious/nationalist background. I can see why he took the  case and why his legal team think it can succeed.

[dublinfella]

You are missing the point your Holiness. It has nothing to do with the relative appeal of the games.The Hotel has failed to treat the guy in the same manner as it treated soccer fans on this occasion. Thats what it boils down to as far as Tribunals are concerned up here, fair and equal treatment across the board. As it stands, the GAA final was being shown on terrestrial tv, it could easily have been shown in the hotel so they have no excuse. Any half decent barrister could make out that the guy was treated less equitably on account of his religious/nationalist background. I can see why he took the  case and why his legal team think it can succeed.

Rubbish. You are asking the courts to enshrine the principal that GAA = nationalist / catholic and soccer = protestant / unionist.

You do not have a human right to see whatever television you want to see in the bar of a hotel you are not a resident in.

[Gnevin]

I know this may be hard to grasp for those residing in the 26 counties Ireland  but all legislation here, no matter how petty it may seem, is necessary to safeguard against unionist discrimination at all times.

Just to help you out their

[his holiness nb]

Shock horror, I agree with Dublinfella.

Will the universe be reversed and all existance cease??