Provincial affiliation

[Main Street]

maybe its because of the recent 'oppression' etc that the 6 counties have endured that has banded us together - and our near neighbours and provincial colleagues  too whohave shared or had a closer view of our 35 years plight!

I have been brought up to support all our provincial teams even the tyronies !

Looks like plenty of others have also. I think the 'troubles' plus the pathetic record of ulster teams in the championship outside of the ulster championship pre-qualifier times is the reason for this provincial backing.

It existed before you lot started moaning about the bit of oppression and as stated it's not confined to the 6 counties.
I remember one day Val Kane, crew cut Down player, came to town and even he had mythical status as a whole bunch of us kids crowded outside the B&B waiting to get his autograph and maybe a chance of a penny.

[Goats Do Shave]

I did think Ross Carr made himself look a right dick on TV on Saturday night.

Totally agree, couldn't believe he came out with that!

[corn02]

Bummer what is this fixation with the two Brians? One of them lives beside me and I see him every day and will tell him there is a Tyrone geek who is obsessed with him.

There is no analogy between M Harte and the two Brians. M Harte had won one real All Ireland and one back door All Ireland yet there was practically universal clamour for his removal after the Tyrone defeat by Down this year.

The two Brians won two Ulster Championships and had failed (unluckily) in two All Ireland semi finals, hence the clamour (mainly from S Armagh) for their heads.

As I said no comparison whatsoever

'there was practically universal clamour for his removal after the Tyrone defeat by Down this year'. BULLSHIT   The people calling for Mickey's head were a small minority, the same sort of people who abused his son when he played for the county. The Irish News had a front page plug jumping to its 'off the fence' column at the time (it may even have used the word clamour)... when you turned to read all about this 'clamour' it amounted to TWO phonecall to the IN calling for MH's head  ... TWO!    The vast majority of Tyrone fans backed MH after the Down games, this, afterall, was the man to who had brought us two All-Irelands (now three, which is TWO more than youse have) ...

Or maybe they just printed two.

[corn02]

I did think Ross Carr made himself look a right dick on TV on Saturday night.

Totally agree, couldn't believe he came out with that!

Missed it , what happened?

[Glensman]

I generally support any team from Ulster but then as an Antrim man we have to get behind some form of cause with a hint of a possibility of success.
Was there in 91, 93, 94, 02, 03 yelling my head off for the Ulster men.

The Railway Cup, which is constantly derided, should be a bigger thing but I am not sure it ever will be in my lifetime.
I think there should be a provincial pride something which you pour scorn on TF.
You are pretty petty man with all your constant ramblings, have you nothing better to do? In the week of Tyrone stepping up to the mark again of being a great team with a great manager maybe it might be wiser to keep quiet and let them enjoy it, for god knows you did a few years back.

Maybe it was the troubles, the 'puke football' comments...but whatever it was it have worked on about 90% of people up here as I would say at least that wanted Tyrone to win.

[Goats Do Shave]

I did think Ross Carr made himself look a right dick on TV on Saturday night.

Totally agree, couldn't believe he came out with that!

Missed it , what happened?

He was asked who he thought would win, and he said with the straightest face & the most dreariest voice I've ever heard -

"I've recently met Paul Galvin, & sincerely hope that Kerry beat Tyrone." - or something like that... can't remember the exact wording now! 

[Croí na hÉireann]

maybe its because of the recent 'oppression' etc that the 6 counties have endured that has banded us together

Years of oppression could be the clue OK. It would also explain why the likes of Louth and Westmeath hate us!

Nothing but love for yous this year Hardy  with the odd chuckle thrown in for good measure... 

[Doogie Browser]

No, he basically said Paul Galvin is the long lost son he wish he had or words to that affect  , I was cringeing, thank god Grainne Seoige was there to help me through it.

[red hander]

Bummer what is this fixation with the two Brians? One of them lives beside me and I see him every day and will tell him there is a Tyrone geek who is obsessed with him.

There is no analogy between M Harte and the two Brians. M Harte had won one real All Ireland and one back door All Ireland yet there was practically universal clamour for his removal after the Tyrone defeat by Down this year.

The two Brians won two Ulster Championships and had failed (unluckily) in two All Ireland semi finals, hence the clamour (mainly from S Armagh) for their heads.

As I said no comparison whatsoever

'there was practically universal clamour for his removal after the Tyrone defeat by Down this year'. BULLSHIT   The people calling for Mickey's head were a small minority, the same sort of people who abused his son when he played for the county. The Irish News had a front page plug jumping to its 'off the fence' column at the time (it may even have used the word clamour)... when you turned to read all about this 'clamour' it amounted to TWO phonecall to the IN calling for MH's head  ... TWO!    The vast majority of Tyrone fans backed MH after the Down games, this, afterall, was the man to who had brought us two All-Irelands (now three, which is TWO more than youse have) ...

Or maybe they just printed two.

Well, why hype something up on the front page if you're then going to sell the reader short?  Off the fence has many times in the past dedicated itself to one subject with several  people's views printed, why not then?

[Bensars]

I think it may have been a border thing prior to an ulster thing. I know many were delighted ( i wasnt around in the 60's) to see Down bring Sam across the border for the first time, followed then by their sudsequent success. Over the course of time it has evolved to an Ulster thing.

individuals should not be knocked for not following that line. For some the bitterness and nastiness that exits in Ulster football is so entrenched that this will never happen, however on the whole most gaels are supporting enough to recognise neighbours.

Candyman makes two very good points. Obviously many know others through work, university and just socially that they would like to see their county win just for their friends enjoyment.

The Dublin medias bias against Ulster football ( percieved or not ) and the likes of the aforementioned Mr Spillane all add to the seige mentality.

[saffron sam2]

I won't support any other Ulster team as of right, other than my own. I can't see why fans who verbally and, in some cases, physically assault members of your family or your friends or club mates should be automatically given your allegiance because they are from the same province.

I am a purist and will favour the team that plays the game in the right spirit.

I tried really hard to support Tyrone on Sunday, and whilst I was happy for my work colleagues and friends and some of the posters on the board from Tyrone, I wouldn't have been any more or less excited had the result been different.

And no, it's not begrudgery.

[Doogie Browser]

Speaking of begrudgery, did anyone else think Paddy Doherty was far from magnanimous about Tyrone this year?  His attitude was 'it wasn't like that in my days, we had it much harder'.  I have great respect for the Down teams of the 60s and they certainly were trailblazers at the time.  I also recall him slating Oisin McConville after becoming all time scorer in the Ulster Championship, 'we had no back doors the etc'.  Lighten up man and enjoy the respect your team and generation has and be a bit more complimentary.

[5 Sams]

I did think Ross Carr made himself look a right dick on TV on Saturday night.

Totally agree, couldn't believe he came out with that!

Missed it , what happened?

He was asked who he thought would win, and he said with the straightest face & the most dreariest voice I've ever heard -

"I've recently met Paul Galvin, & sincerely hope that Kerry beat Tyrone." - or something like that... can't remember the exact wording now! 

No, he basically said Paul Galvin is the long lost son he wish he had or words to that affect  , I was cringeing, thank god Grainne Seoige was there to help me through it.

Why let the truth get in the way of a good story hey lads???

In fact what he said was that he had got quite friendly with Paul Galvin over the last 18 months and that he would like to see him lift Sam on Sunday.


What wrong with that? Is he not allowed an opinion....just because he didnt go along with all the other sheep and say "Come on Tyrone"...he has made a dick of himself in your eyes....wise up FFS.

[corn02]

Bummer what is this fixation with the two Brians? One of them lives beside me and I see him every day and will tell him there is a Tyrone geek who is obsessed with him.

There is no analogy between M Harte and the two Brians. M Harte had won one real All Ireland and one back door All Ireland yet there was practically universal clamour for his removal after the Tyrone defeat by Down this year.

The two Brians won two Ulster Championships and had failed (unluckily) in two All Ireland semi finals, hence the clamour (mainly from S Armagh) for their heads.

As I said no comparison whatsoever

'there was practically universal clamour for his removal after the Tyrone defeat by Down this year'. BULLSHIT   The people calling for Mickey's head were a small minority, the same sort of people who abused his son when he played for the county. The Irish News had a front page plug jumping to its 'off the fence' column at the time (it may even have used the word clamour)... when you turned to read all about this 'clamour' it amounted to TWO phonecall to the IN calling for MH's head  ... TWO!    The vast majority of Tyrone fans backed MH after the Down games, this, afterall, was the man to who had brought us two All-Irelands (now three, which is TWO more than youse have) ...

Or maybe they just printed two.

Well, why hype something up on the front page if you're then going to sell the reader short?  Off the fence has many times in the past dedicated itself to one subject with several  people's views printed, why not then?

In all my years reading off the fence I can never recall them covering just one subject. Would you want them to dedicate eight pages to it if there actually was acouple 100 calls about it?

[GalwayBayBoy]

I have just enough support in me to support my club and my county but not enough to start supporting every other county in my province. I don't mind seeing Mayo, Roscommon, Sligo and Leitrim doing well but I wouldn't actively be shouting for them. I don't buy this "siege mentality" in Ulster either because of criticism from the Dublin media. No other province has got more brickbats thrown at it down through the years than Connacht but I still don't feel a need to rabidly shout for Mayo or Roscommon although I definitely wouldn't begrudge Mayo say an AI title win.

Seems to me like a lot of it is just basking in reflected glory.