2008 Ulster Club Championships

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Additionally from the BC1 fan club posts

Imagine having an opinion

[billy the kid]

Additionally from the BC1 fan club posts

Imagine having an opinion

Imagine having an opinion of your own 

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Additionally from the BC1 fan club posts

Imagine having an opinion

Imagine having an opinion of your own 

You know what I mean Billy

[tonesfirstandlast]

No, bcb1 is obviously biased. I reckon he would back his club mates to the hilt.

I was at the game as a neutral, I was directly in line with the incident. I spoke about in the thread the day after the game. If I was called as a witness in court my recall would be exactly the same. Even if it had been bcb1 who carried out the tackle, then I don't see how his evidence would be anymore reliable than that of an independent, neutral witness.

Would you shut up man and take it that BC1 knows alot more about the incident and was alot closer to the incident than you! Maybe he is being biased but it is first hand detailed information no matter what you saw!  

Ok folks, I wasnt at that game and just watched highlights on tv and i dont really remember this incident as its a while back, However I would tend to believe SS2 here as he was at the game in a neutral capacity and had a good view of the incident and whacker, he has given "first hand detailed information" of the incident also and to say it doesnt matter what he saw is ridiculous.

If you were in court as a witness and said you saw with your own 2 eyes, the killer running away covered in blood holding the knife that was used, and the defendants lawer said "he didnt do it no matter what you saw" would you then say, "sorry i must be mistaken"

Also, BC1 is a Cross man and from what I gather a very proud one, and like all of us who are really proud of our clubs - we are the most biased people you will ever meet and rarely can see any thing wrong with our own house but everyone elses is a dump, and there would be no chance of admitting a wrong this long after the event, but thats one of the many things that make the Club scene of the GAA so colourful and so great. But in fairness BC1s responses have been measured and not outlandish like some of the "he says it, therefore its right and your wrong" type of things some have posted on this thread. Butt kissers

Additionally from the BC1 fan club posts it would appear that BC1 was the man sent off that day? Hardly a neutral or unbiased view of it all.

On a different note, just because Shane Kelly was wrongly dismissed against cross that year and suspended for the replay, doesnt make it right that JME is treated the same this time round. JME didnt hit Conway in the face, and I think we all know that this was what he was sent off for. He may have connected with the elbow on the 5th rib but the contact looked minimal and would have been a harsh enough booking IMO. Hope he gets off and gets to play on Sunday, I for one really enjoyed watching him play and thought he had a v good game. Have seen Cross play 4 times in the Championship this year and thought that was his best display so far, although he was also deadly in one particular 20 minute spell against Armagh Harps.

My only worry about JME would be his comment, which basically said he had Elbowed Conway in the Ribs, getting him in trouble instead. His comment made his tackle sound alot worse than it actually was, and as someone else said on the board, the ref and the Ulster council may seize this as justification for the red as they are always reluctant to overturn Red cards. If there is any Justice JME will be playing on Sunday.

I don't want this to be seen as condoning Conway as he should be ashamed of himself BUT McEntee did lead dangerously with his elbow, in his own words, it did connect. We don't know what the referee reported him for. But I hope he gets off.

[armaghniac]

I don't want this to be seen as condoning Conway as he should be ashamed of himself BUT McEntee did lead dangerously with his elbow, in his own words, it did connect.

Having watched this on the website again there was nothing in it, the phrase used by John Mac makes it sound worse than it was. As noted earlier it would have been a harsh booking, it does not deserve a red card and missing a game. It should be Conway who misses a game for holding his face when the contact was nowhere near his face. In any case he may find it hard to get a free again! 

[Onion Bag]

Anyone got a link to the incident?

[screenexile]

From hoganstand.com


Ballinderry sweating on McCusker
03 December 2008

Ballinderry are sweating on the fitness of full back Niall McCusker ahead of Sunday's Ulster club football final replay against Crossmaglen.

McCusker, whose late goal rescued a draw for the Derry champions at Brewster Park last Sunday, suffered concussion and needed stitches to a facial wound.

"Niall has been outstanding for us this year and we are desperately keen to have him on board," Ballinderry chairman Camillus Quinn said.

Despite being sent off last Sunday, Conor Wilkinson will be eligible to play as he was dismissed on a second yellow card.


He looked fine to me after scoring the goal and I didn't notice any wounds on his face at that stage... did something happen after the match?

Anyone got a link to the incident?

tg4.tv Click on sport on the left nahd side and you can view all the coverage from Sunday.

[Drumanee 1]

I don't want this to be seen as condoning Conway as he should be ashamed of himself BUT McEntee did lead dangerously with his elbow, in his own words, it did connect.

Having watched this on the website again there was nothing in it, the phrase used by John Mac makes it sound worse than it was. As noted earlier it would have been a harsh booking, it does not deserve a red card and missing a game. It should be Conway who misses a game for holding his face when the contact was nowhere near his face. In any case he may find it hard to get a free again! 

if john mac gets off it could open a whole can of worms,if the red card is recinded because he did not catch conway in the face the ulster council would have to ban conway for conning the ref.

[Onion Bag]

From hoganstand.com


Ballinderry sweating on McCusker
03 December 2008

Ballinderry are sweating on the fitness of full back Niall McCusker ahead of Sunday's Ulster club football final replay against Crossmaglen.

McCusker, whose late goal rescued a draw for the Derry champions at Brewster Park last Sunday, suffered concussion and needed stitches to a facial wound.

"Niall has been outstanding for us this year and we are desperately keen to have him on board," Ballinderry chairman Camillus Quinn said.

Despite being sent off last Sunday, Conor Wilkinson will be eligible to play as he was dismissed on a second yellow card.


He looked fine to me after scoring the goal and I didn't notice any wounds on his face at that stage... did something happen after the match?

Anyone got a link to the incident?

tg4.tv Click on sport on the left nahd side and you can view all the coverage from Sunday.

Cheers Screen,

as for Mc Cusker, He will play, Hes a hardy bastard, this is just the normal media shite

[Onion Bag]

I don't want this to be seen as condoning Conway as he should be ashamed of himself BUT McEntee did lead dangerously with his elbow, in his own words, it did connect.

Having watched this on the website again there was nothing in it, the phrase used by John Mac makes it sound worse than it was. As noted earlier it would have been a harsh booking, it does not deserve a red card and missing a game. It should be Conway who misses a game for holding his face when the contact was nowhere near his face. In any case he may find it hard to get a free again! 

if john mac gets off it could open a whole can of worms,if the red card is recinded because he did not catch conway in the face the ulster council would have to ban conway for conning the ref.

Not at all Drumanee, Philip Jordan done the same in the 03 final, nothing happened

[SidelineKick]

Aye you can be sure there'll be a full bill of health.

I said that at the beginning that if John Mac gets off it means he has done nothing and would be great to see Conway punished.  Things like that make me angry, its soccer stuff.

[saffron sam2]

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/160929/

Brian Crowe appears to have an itchy elbow.

[corn02]

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/160929/

Brian Crowe appears to have an itchy elbow.

I hope has the hair cut from then.

[tonesfirstandlast]

Aye you can be sure there'll be a full bill of health.

I said that at the beginning that if John Mac gets off it means he has done nothing and would be great to see Conway punished.  Things like that make me angry, its soccer stuff.

You have heard of "People in Glasshouses................."
What's wrong with soccer..............didn't Oisin play soccer.

[wherefromreferee?]

Gonna call it.  Shamrocks by 2.