Cork V Kilkenny

Started by Reillers, August 01, 2008, 12:32:46 PM

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Reillers

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No I just can't stand the fact that despite being written off twice, despite us coming back from almost immposible situations that not many teams would have, after being on strike, challenging the county board and having to start our preparations later then everyone else, we played bloody good hurling, we've shown our true class everywhere, I'd love to here you're only 5 or 6 players, I'd love to hear what you consider isn't all star worthy?? We've answered all our critics, all the question we've played some of the hurling of the championship, some being the best we've played in years, despite being written off every time to the point where it was almost insulting. Oh they're over the hill, oh the Galway game was their last kick, oh they wont be Clare, Clare will be hungrier, better..etc, and now oh aren't kk great. I've seen nothing in the last year to suggest that they're immortal. They're bench and depth is bluff and propaganda, Cody makes threats in the papers that scare the players, he's players thinking that anyone can be dropped which is bull. We've a stronger bench then they have and that's coming from Kk fans.

Whether I think we're favorites is irrelevant, do I think that we've earned the right not to be laughed off again, oh KK by 6 or 7 points, type attitude, ya I think we have. We have answered every single question we've been asked and some. Our team has played some of it's best hurling in years if you listen to the pundits. But that's not enough to even be considered by some people to be in with a shot. I think we've earned the rights to be favorites, I don't think KK have. They haven't had a serious test in a long time. We've had 2 in 8 days. So it wrecks my head completely when I hear things like sure Cork could stay with them, they might just win or they're 2 good teams but I only see one result, Kk by 5 or 6. Haven't we by now earned some respect from the media not to be completely written off, because according to them, we might as well not turn up because KK are so good.  ::) ::)
This team has beaten them before and they will again, they are not immortal, they're not that special and I cannot wait till the Leinster is somehow changed so they get a decent challenge. It isn't their fault who they get to play, they've been extremely lucky. They've had it extremely easy. It's not their fault but it doesn't make it any less true. 
You say that we have only 5 or 6 players who are all star material, but let me guess that you think the majority of the KK players are God like.
People keep saying we're done, over the hill..etc yet there's in no proof of that, or so called finished players look 5 years younger. They've been training and working their socks off all season, and the players, except Sully, look better then ever, the likes of Ben, Naughton, Kenny, there's speed we've never had before, Christ like Kenny at times looks like he's been training for the 100m in Beijing. They've been working so hard, they've been amazing and yet here we are. We've the ability to dazzle Kilkenny with the speed that we now have. God knows we have it-Naughton is a flyer and brilliant at carrying the ball,Ben is obvious as are tom and Jerry. This is a better Cork team then what we've seen in a few years. Yet like I said, here we are given maybes, ifs and I suppose if they're lucky, as our best chance of winning.

It just wrecks my head that a team that has pulled out all the stops, has played better hurling then ever this season, have gone above and beyond, has defied logic, has come back from the dead, is still written off because Kilkenny are Kilkenny. Who have it nice and easy and are of course superior to everyone else because 2 good games a season proves that. We've proven ourselves over and over this season, but no next to those God like characters we're only ordinary. I hope the Cork players read the newspapers, read the "neutrals" view because that will just rile them up more. They deserve more then maybe they might if they're lucky be in with a chance, for all they've done this season, they deserve more then that.

MaroonAndWhite

Quote from: Reillers on August 02, 2008, 02:11:33 AM
No I just can't stand the fact that despite being written off twice, despite us coming back from almost immposible situations that not many teams would have, after being on strike, challenging the county board and having to start our preparations later then everyone else, we played bloody good hurling, we've shown our true class everywhere, I'd love to here you're only 5 or 6 players, I'd love to hear what you consider isn't all star worthy?? We've answered all our critics, all the question we've played some of the hurling of the championship, some being the best we've played in years, despite being written off every time to the point where it was almost insulting. Oh they're over the hill, oh the Galway game was their last kick, oh they wont be Clare, Clare will be hungrier, better..etc, and now oh aren't kk great. I've seen nothing in the last year to suggest that they're immortal. They're bench and depth is bluff and propaganda, Cody makes threats in the papers that scare the players, he's players thinking that anyone can be dropped which is bull. We've a stronger bench then they have and that's coming from Kk fans.

Whether I think we're favorites is irrelevant, do I think that we've earned the right not to be laughed off again, oh KK by 6 or 7 points, type attitude, ya I think we have. We have answered every single question we've been asked and some. Our team has played some of it's best hurling in years if you listen to the pundits. But that's not enough to even be considered by some people to be in with a shot. I think we've earned the rights to be favorites, I don't think KK have. They haven't had a serious test in a long time. We've had 2 in 8 days. So it wrecks my head completely when I hear things like sure Cork could stay with them, they might just win or they're 2 good teams but I only see one result, Kk by 5 or 6. Haven't we by now earned some respect from the media not to be completely written off, because according to them, we might as well not turn up because KK are so good.  ::) ::)
This team has beaten them before and they will again, they are not immortal, they're not that special and I cannot wait till the Leinster is somehow changed so they get a decent challenge. It isn't their fault who they get to play, they've been extremely lucky. They've had it extremely easy. It's not their fault but it doesn't make it any less true. 
You say that we have only 5 or 6 players who are all star material, but let me guess that you think the majority of the KK players are God like.
People keep saying we're done, over the hill..etc yet there's in no proof of that, or so called finished players look 5 years younger. They've been training and working their socks off all season, and the players, except Sully, look better then ever, the likes of Ben, Naughton, Kenny, there's speed we've never had before, Christ like Kenny at times looks like he's been training for the 100m in Beijing. They've been working so hard, they've been amazing and yet here we are. We've the ability to dazzle Kilkenny with the speed that we now have. God knows we have it-Naughton is a flyer and brilliant at carrying the ball,Ben is obvious as are tom and Jerry. This is a better Cork team then what we've seen in a few years. Yet like I said, here we are given maybes, ifs and I suppose if they're lucky, as our best chance of winning.

It just wrecks my head that a team that has pulled out all the stops, has played better hurling then ever this season, have gone above and beyond, has defied logic, has come back from the dead, is still written off because Kilkenny are Kilkenny. Who have it nice and easy and are of course superior to everyone else because 2 good games a season proves that. We've proven ourselves over and over this season, but no next to those God like characters we're only ordinary. I hope the Cork players read the newspapers, read the "neutrals" view because that will just rile them up more. They deserve more then maybe they might if they're lucky be in with a chance, for all they've done this season, they deserve more then that.

Jesus, if the team take these percieved slights on their ability as seriously as you then they will have all the motivation in the world! If i were you, id be delighted that Kilkenny are bring tipped to win by 5+ points! "Deserve" doesnt it.....you dont deserve AI titles, you earn them. If they have another Celtic Cross they'll not give a shite for what  pundits or neutrals think and neither will you im sure

Reillers

Quote from: MaroonAndWhite on August 02, 2008, 11:03:00 AM
Quote from: Reillers on August 02, 2008, 02:11:33 AM
No I just can't stand the fact that despite being written off twice, despite us coming back from almost immposible situations that not many teams would have, after being on strike, challenging the county board and having to start our preparations later then everyone else, we played bloody good hurling, we've shown our true class everywhere, I'd love to here you're only 5 or 6 players, I'd love to hear what you consider isn't all star worthy?? We've answered all our critics, all the question we've played some of the hurling of the championship, some being the best we've played in years, despite being written off every time to the point where it was almost insulting. Oh they're over the hill, oh the Galway game was their last kick, oh they wont be Clare, Clare will be hungrier, better..etc, and now oh aren't kk great. I've seen nothing in the last year to suggest that they're immortal. They're bench and depth is bluff and propaganda, Cody makes threats in the papers that scare the players, he's players thinking that anyone can be dropped which is bull. We've a stronger bench then they have and that's coming from Kk fans.

Whether I think we're favorites is irrelevant, do I think that we've earned the right not to be laughed off again, oh KK by 6 or 7 points, type attitude, ya I think we have. We have answered every single question we've been asked and some. Our team has played some of it's best hurling in years if you listen to the pundits. But that's not enough to even be considered by some people to be in with a shot. I think we've earned the rights to be favorites, I don't think KK have. They haven't had a serious test in a long time. We've had 2 in 8 days. So it wrecks my head completely when I hear things like sure Cork could stay with them, they might just win or they're 2 good teams but I only see one result, Kk by 5 or 6. Haven't we by now earned some respect from the media not to be completely written off, because according to them, we might as well not turn up because KK are so good.  ::) ::)
This team has beaten them before and they will again, they are not immortal, they're not that special and I cannot wait till the Leinster is somehow changed so they get a decent challenge. It isn't their fault who they get to play, they've been extremely lucky. They've had it extremely easy. It's not their fault but it doesn't make it any less true. 
You say that we have only 5 or 6 players who are all star material, but let me guess that you think the majority of the KK players are God like.
People keep saying we're done, over the hill..etc yet there's in no proof of that, or so called finished players look 5 years younger. They've been training and working their socks off all season, and the players, except Sully, look better then ever, the likes of Ben, Naughton, Kenny, there's speed we've never had before, Christ like Kenny at times looks like he's been training for the 100m in Beijing. They've been working so hard, they've been amazing and yet here we are. We've the ability to dazzle Kilkenny with the speed that we now have. God knows we have it-Naughton is a flyer and brilliant at carrying the ball,Ben is obvious as are tom and Jerry. This is a better Cork team then what we've seen in a few years. Yet like I said, here we are given maybes, ifs and I suppose if they're lucky, as our best chance of winning.

It just wrecks my head that a team that has pulled out all the stops, has played better hurling then ever this season, have gone above and beyond, has defied logic, has come back from the dead, is still written off because Kilkenny are Kilkenny. Who have it nice and easy and are of course superior to everyone else because 2 good games a season proves that. We've proven ourselves over and over this season, but no next to those God like characters we're only ordinary. I hope the Cork players read the newspapers, read the "neutrals" view because that will just rile them up more. They deserve more then maybe they might if they're lucky be in with a chance, for all they've done this season, they deserve more then that.

Jesus, if the team take these percieved slights on their ability as seriously as you then they will have all the motivation in the world! If i were you, id be delighted that Kilkenny are bring tipped to win by 5+ points! "Deserve" doesnt it.....you dont deserve AI titles, you earn them. If they have another Celtic Cross they'll not give a shite for what  pundits or neutrals think and neither will you im sure
Earn being the main word here.

INDIANA

Reillers its simply the general arrogance that Cork have . I'm not knocking it, but cork can't bear to be second best at anything. Man to man your team doesn't stack up to kilkennny. and i'll argue that all day, and i'll win the argument too. But that doesn't mean cork can't beat kilkenny on sunday week. Of course they can, but in my view they won't.

imtommygunn

I thought it was the ulster boys with the persecution complex too...

You're the only team with the personnel to beat Kilkenny. Everyone gets written of against Kilkenny so not so sure why you take it so personally.

With regard to the last two games the only time you've been written off is when you yourselves have left yourselves a big hole to get out of so no one else can be blamed for that. 15 against 15 in the last two games when you were level no one who knew anything about hurling was writing you off.

Then again, how dare we write cork off...

Square Ball

I take it that this game is in Croke?
Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid

orangeman

Quote from: Square Ball on August 02, 2008, 07:23:57 PM
I take it that this game is in Croke?


Why not do the sensible thing and take this game to Semple Stadium ?

INDIANA

for the umpeenth time, all ireland semis have to be played in croke park due to the premium tickets.

orangeman

Quote from: INDIANA on August 03, 2008, 12:05:26 AM
for the umpeenth time, all ireland semis have to be played in croke park due to the premium tickets.

Gotcha now - sorry !

Is there any other incentive you could give to the premium ticket holders ?

Square Ball

trying to get tickets for a friend, there are none on Ticket Master, are they out yet?
Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid

The Real Laoislad

Kilkenny by at least 6 points....
The only team that can stop the Cats this year are Tipp in my opinion
You'll Never Walk Alone.

orangeman

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on August 04, 2008, 10:58:56 PM
Kilkenny by at least 6 points....
The only team that can stop the Cats this year are Tipp in my opinion


I'd agree with you there - I think Kilkenny will take Cork - Tipp then have to beat Waterford to set up an old style AI final between Tipp who won't be in the slightest afraid of the Cats or their record.

timmykelleher

Cork team named.

CORK (SH V KILKENNY): D Óg Cusack; S O'Neill, D O'Sullivan, B Murphy; J Gardiner, R Curran, S Óg Ó'hAilpín; T Kenny, J O'Connor; B O'Connor, N McCarthy, P Cronin; C Naughton, J Deane, P Horgan.

Diarmuid O'Sullivan is kept at full back. Will he be picked for the final also?  8)
Corcaigh - McGrath cup champions - 2009

EddieMerx

Could be a costly mistake, hen you consider he has been cleaned out in the last two games it's a risky decision to start him against the quality of the Cats attack.

orangeman

Big call to put the Rock back in again ! But will he start ???