Armagh manager

[corn02]

T Fearon makes a point though about it being a lucky block in 05.

How the f**k can executing one of the games greatest talents be deemed luck? People use luck too often, if a shot goes wide - unlucky , no it isn't, it's bad shooting.

[thebandit]

I was a big advocate of the 'Joe Kernan way' and always will be, but I'd have to say that the change has done Armagh the world of good. He knew not to wield the axe, and has reinvigorated some of the older players.

[Onion Bag]

No doubt that 'Fermanaghs finest hour' above will be used to motivate more then Fermanagh!

Will it not be used to motivate Armagh 

[The GAA]

I was a big advocate of the 'Joe Kernan way' and always will be, but I'd have to say that the change has done Armagh the world of good. He knew not to wield the axe, and has reinvigorated some of the older players.

I'm not sure about that bandit. Armagh haven't met top quality opposition yet and some of the old guard are showing signs of wear and tear are they not? McGrane and Bellew have struggled at times and McNulty and McConville are more or less shelved. there's not much of 2002 left in this team

[T Fearon]

Gormley merely shut his eyes and dived in front of Stevie, it is commonly acknowledged that this piece of good fortune was responsible for Tyrone winning the game.

[corn02]

Bullshit Tony - great block.

[Whacker]

Gormley merely shut his eyes and dived in front of Stevie, it is commonly acknowledged that this piece of good fortune was responsible for Tyrone winning the game.

Toolbox!

It was am umbelievable block!

Take off the blinkers and stop making a fooking eejit out of yourself

[T Fearon]

FFS, he blindly threw himself in front of Stevie I will acknowledge the man's bravery but it was pure luck, and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional

[Uladh]

I was a big advocate of the 'Joe Kernan way' and always will be, but I'd have to say that the change has done Armagh the world of good. He knew not to wield the axe, and has reinvigorated some of the older players.

I'm not sure about that bandit. Armagh haven't met top quality opposition yet and some of the old guard are showing signs of wear and tear are they not? McGrane and Bellew have struggled at times and McNulty and McConville are more or less shelved. there's not much of 2002 left in this team

That's nonsense. McDonnell has gotten the best (so far) out of the older players.
McGrane was outnumbered for long periods against down and gordon only fielded one ball - and a miscued kick out at that. Granted he wasn't storming around in the second half as he normally does but he had his hands ful with down's extra numbers in that sector. Bellew hasn't been found wanting either but i will acknowledge that he hasn't really been tested yet.
Far from being "shelved" McConville and McNulty have been injured, are missed and will be important for any progress armagh might hope to make.
Aidan O'Rourke is part of the old guard and represents McDonnell's biggest master stroke. his form has been central to everything armagh does and i'd even say he was vital to armagh staying in division 2 through the national league.
McDonnell is no dozer and seems to know how to get the best out of players, irrespective of their age.

[under the bar]

FFS, he blindly threw himself in front of Stevie Angry I will acknowledge the man's bravery but it was pure luck, and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional

Still smoking the magic mushrooms I see......

[Orior]

Anyone recall this?

1 min:	Stephen McDonnell's right foot lands the final's first point from play.	Armagh 0-1 Kerry 0-0
2 mins:	Mike Frank Russell quickly replies by getting last year's beaten finalists off the mark.	Armagh 0-1 Kerry 0-1
3 mins:	McDonnell picks up a loose ball and sends over his second point of the match.	Armagh 0-2 Kerry 0-1
4 mins:	19-year-old full-forward Ronan Clarke kicks over another Armagh point as the Orchard County make a promising start.	Armagh 0-3 Kerry 0-1
7 mins:	Colm Cooper swivels and lands Kerry's second point with his left foot.	Armagh 0-3 Kerry 0-2
10 mins:	Eoin Brosnan brings Kerry level again wth another point from play.	Armagh 0-3 Kerry 0-3
-	Armagh's John McEntee suffered concussion
11 mins:	Kerry lead for the first time thanks to a point from play scored by corner forward Russell.	Armagh 0-3 Kerry 0-4
14 mins:	Pearse Og clubman Clarke is on target again with a long-range point for Armagh.	Armagh 0-4 Kerry 0-4
16 mins:	Armagh centre half-forward John McEntee turns to fire over an accurate left-foot strike.	Armagh 0-5 Kerry 0-4
19 mins:	The final's first point from a free is kicked by Dara O Cinneide.	Armagh 0-5 Kerry 0-5
20 mins:	Full-forward Dara O Cinneide takes his all-time Championship tally to 120, scoring from play to edge Kerry ahead.	Armagh 0-5 Kerry 0-6
22 mins:	Eamonn Fitzmaurice gets forward to score for Kerry.	Armagh 0-5 Kerry 0-7
23 mins:	Liam Hassett gives Kerry a three-point lead.	Armagh 0-5 Kerry 0-8
23 mins:	McEntee, feeling the effects of an earlier knock, is replaced by Barry O'Hagan.
24 mins:	Kerry's spell of dominance continues as Mike Frank Russell's shot is deflected over the bar for a point.	Armagh 0-5 Kerry 0-9
25 mins:	Diarmuid Marsden's first point gives the Ulster champions a much-needed boost.	Armagh 0-6 Kerry 0-9
	Diarmuid Marsden scored twice in the first half
31 mins:	Dara O Cinneide scores from a free to give Kerry a four-point cushion.	Armagh 0-6 Kerry 0-10
32 mins:	Cooper scores from close-range to extend Kerry's lead.	Armagh 0-6 Kerry 0-11
33 mins:	Oisin McConville sees a penalty saved by Kerry keeper Declan O'Keeffe.
35 mins:	Marsden gets a stoppage-time point to leave Armagh trailing by four at half-time.	Armagh 0-7 Kerry 0-11
	Half-time: Armagh 0-7 Kerry 0-11
39 mins:	Marsden gets his third point of the final to reduce Armagh's deficit to three.	Armagh 0-8 Kerry 0-11
41 mins:	O Cinneide is on target with a long-range free for Kerry.	Armagh 0-8 Kerry 0-12
42 mins:	McConville scores his first point for the Orchard County	Armagh 0-9 Kerry 0-12
50 mins:	Liam Hassett scores a fine point for Kerry to restore the four-point gap	Armagh 0-9 Kerry 0-13
52 mins:	McConville scores from the 45 after Armagh had failed to capitalise on a goal-scoring opportunity.	Armagh 0-10 Kerry 0-13
53 mins:	Dara O Cinneide lands a free from the 45 for Kerry.	Armagh 0-10 Kerry 0-14
54 mins:	Oisin McConville crashes the ball past O'Keeffe at the near post for a goal which brings Armagh right back into the contest, just a point behind.	Armagh 1-10 Kerry 0-14
58 mins:	The teams are level when Armagh's Ronan Clarke lands his third point of the final.	Armagh 1-11 Kerry 0-14
62 mins:	Armagh surge forward to take the lead through McDonnell.	Armagh 1-12 Kerry 0-14
70 mins:	Eoin Brosnan misses a good chance, leaving Armagh still ahead going into three minutes of injury-time.
Full-time:	John Bannon sounds the final whistle and Armagh win the All Ireland championship for the first time.
-	Result: Armagh 1-12 Kerry 0-14

I do!

[Over the Bar]

McDonnell is no dozer and seems to know how to get the best out of players, irrespective of their age.

I've seen McDonnell's mgt style at first hand at club level, which was why I took Armagh e.w. at 25/1 at the start of the championship.  If it's in a team at all he'll bring it out.

[brokencrossbar1]

If the players respect him and do what he expects of him he will make great things out of average men.  Tactically he is very astute and he knows when to make changes generally.  If they beat Fermanagh, I genuinely think Armagh could make the Final, if they avoid Kerry.  I do not see any of the other teams as being any better than Armagh and I also think that on their day Armagh would beat Kerry.  It will be interesting to see how Kerry fair against Cork on Sunday as this will  be the first real test of the year for them.

[Billys Boots]

Kerry fair ... on Sunday

No, no, it's in Killorglin in August. 

[brokencrossbar1]

Kerry fair ... on Sunday

No, no, it's in Killorglin in August. 

Jeez Billy you're on form today, we have the Goat ready for the Gadderin'.  I have me bill-hook and the cousins and I am ready to roll!