Ulster Final 2008 - Armagh vs Fermanagh

[corn02]

BTW anyone who thinks Fermanagh's goal should not have counted are out of order in my eyes.

[FermGael]

Just after watching the game again there now.
The first half was defiantly not one for the purists.
Fermanagh turned the game in the second half by utilizing McCluskey in an attacking role and by pressing Armagh in their own half of the field.  Armagh scoring the goal at the start of the second half meant Fermanagh had to go for it.  It meant we had to attack and Clucker stopped trying to read the balls going into Clarke and McDonnell. 
The amount of turnover ball Fermanagh forced Armagh to concede was huge.  The way to stop McDonnell and Clarke is to cut of and spoil the ball going into them.
That's exactly what we did in the second half.  We pressed them in their own half and put the Armagh backs under huge pressure
But we kicked far too many balls into the keepers hands and took the wrong option especially in the last 10 minutes.  For all our procession we were 3 points down with 5 minutes of normal time to go.  Armagh had 2 opportunities to hit insurance points and they missed both.  McDonnell from a free and from play i think.
Owens was great when he came on.  Have watched Bellew playing on  numerous occasions and he has rarely put a foot wrong but he certainly did not look comfortable marking Owens.  Do not know if Barry would be fit for the whole match but he really could be an option up there.
Armagh will definitely not concede as much possession in the midfield third the next day but then again i do not think that the Fermanagh forwards will be as wasteful.

On another note i am hearing today that there was a complete balls up with tickets to the hill.  People with hill tickets being sent behind the goals and others not getting in.  One fella i know was told the hill was full and he would have to go to the pub and watch it. 

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I hope you're making that up as that simply could NOT happen !

Not making it up.  He was turned away with a valid ticket because the hill was full. 

[T Fearon]

It was proven last night on the Sunday Game, by means of the computer diagram that Maguire was clearly in the square, no doubt about it, should have been a square ball and that was the gut feeling that I and many other fans seated beside me at that end of the Gerry Arthurs stand yesterday had as well. We all instinctively shouted in unison, Square Ball.

Thats two years in a row we have fell victim to illegitimate goals in the Ulster Championship

[barryownsafarm]

The problems we had yesterday were (a) with the free taking and (b) not getting as much space.  Against Monaghan and Derry every time a Fermanagh man had the ball there seemed to be two free men.  Yesterday - until the last 25 mins - every time fermanagh broke each green jersey had an orange one attached.  Too often men ran into tackles or kicked an aimless pass.  This was due to the lack of space.  I would say this changed in the last half an hour cause Armagh couldnt maintain it for the whole 70 as lads like Little and Keenan and Maguire and McElroy never stop running.

I don't think Brewster or Mattie will start.  Apparantly keenan was going well with frees in training. to be honest though I would have no confidence in him pointing anything thats over 30 yards out.  Little or even Kelly could have a crack at the longer ones though both of these can be sporadic as well.

I actually thought Sherry played well yesterday.  But you're right it was when he was out round the middle rather than at FF.  Good to see Peter Sherry have a good game as well after Eoin Bradley giving him the run around.

You would have to fancy McGrath to be in the running for an Allstar again this year, though that will be worth little if we dont win ulster. Tommy McElroy continues to impress even though ytrdy wasnt his best game imo (kicked three bad balls in towards the square when we had 10 minutes of pressure and no scores.  Ronnie Gallagher also deserves a mention though I see other posters arent happy at him giving lip the whole game.

Team for the next day:

       Ronnie
Goan Owens Sherry
Kelly Clucker Tommy
 McElroy Little
Womble McGrath
    Sherry
Keenan Maguire McCabe

Oh and re. the square ball....if the ref blew Clarke for overcarrying when he got the goal you would have lost - what is your point exactly?!

[T Fearon]

The crowd yesterday and the demand for tickets once again raises the question about Clones' fitness for purpose in terms of hosting Ulster Finals.

[the real slim shady]

The hill was a complete joke yesterday am I suprised that no one seriously hurt with the amount of people in it the walkways were completely full and you couldn't move, one of the stewarts told me to go back out and go behind the goal saying that it was the hill aswell, the stewarts just didn't seem to give a f*uk

[FermGael]

I can see a repeat of the 2005 scenario when Aramgh were lucky enough to get a draw with Fermanagh in the Ulster Championship but won the replay handy enough.

PS Saw Peter Mc Ginnity and Jim Cleary deep in conversation at the back of the Gerry Arthurs stand after the game yesterday. Some day Fermanagh will reach an Ulster Final and not have to fact the might of Armagh

Ah Tony.  How's the fantasy competition in the Belfast telegraph going this weather??
you still in second place. 

[Onion Bag]

BTW anyone who thinks Fermanagh's goal should not have counted are out of order in my eyes.

Can you please tell me why corn, it was a square ball! Automatically a free out, How is that out of order, its the rules

[orangeman]

It was proven last night on the Sunday Game, by means of the computer diagram that Maguire was clearly in the square, no doubt about it, should have been a square ball and that was the gut feeling that I and many other fans seated beside me at that end of the Gerry Arthurs stand yesterday had as well. We all instinctively shouted in unison, Square Ball.

Thats two years in a row we have fell victim to illegitimate goals in the Ulster Championship

But if had been sitting in the Pat Mc Grane, you wouldn't have seen it - that's where the referee was so he missed it. Buy Pat Mc Grane tickets for the next day !  

[Onion Bag]

It was proven last night on the Sunday Game, by means of the computer diagram that Maguire was clearly in the square, no doubt about it, should have been a square ball and that was the gut feeling that I and many other fans seated beside me at that end of the Gerry Arthurs stand yesterday had as well. We all instinctively shouted in unison, Square Ball.

Thats two years in a row we have fell victim to illegitimate goals in the Ulster Championship

But if had been sitting in the Pat Mc Grane, you wouldn't have seen it - that's where the referee was so he missed it. Buy Pat Mc Grane tickets for the next day !  

Isnt there umpires there to spot the infringement

[ONeill]

What do the Fermanagh heads think of Keenan? A talented boy but carries the ball into trouble a serious amount of times. The Armagh half backs were gobbling him up.

[Goats Do Shave]

It was proven last night on the Sunday Game, by means of the computer diagram that Maguire was clearly in the square, no doubt about it, should have been a square ball and that was the gut feeling that I and many other fans seated beside me at that end of the Gerry Arthurs stand yesterday had as well. We all instinctively shouted in unison, Square Ball.

Thats two years in a row we have fell victim to illegitimate goals in the Ulster Championship

But if had been sitting in the Pat Mc Grane, you wouldn't have seen it - that's where the referee was so he missed it. Buy Pat Mc Grane tickets for the next day !  

It was a square ball. I thought Francie was fouled on the edge of the square off the ball..

BUT

Hearty should have cleared it!

[Onion Bag]

It was proven last night on the Sunday Game, by means of the computer diagram that Maguire was clearly in the square, no doubt about it, should have been a square ball and that was the gut feeling that I and many other fans seated beside me at that end of the Gerry Arthurs stand yesterday had as well. We all instinctively shouted in unison, Square Ball.

Thats two years in a row we have fell victim to illegitimate goals in the Ulster Championship

But if had been sitting in the Pat Mc Grane, you wouldn't have seen it - that's where the referee was so he missed it. Buy Pat Mc Grane tickets for the next day !  

It was a square ball. I thought Francie was fouled on the edge of the square off the ball..

BUT

Hearty should have cleared it!

He should have took ball man the whole thing with him

[miss_anon]

do you know how i could get tickets to the replay?

[naka]

what time does the replay start next sunday