Jerome Ousted?

Started by T Fearon, April 22, 2008, 09:21:51 AM

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The face

Quote from: caughtredhanded on July 30, 2010, 07:40:50 PM
Quote from: The face on July 30, 2010, 05:10:44 PM
We were called into a room and told. And then we did what we were told so we could keep our jobs. A proud day for us all!

If that is the case it was a damned shameful disgrace but why is this the first time I've heard of it?

Usually stuff like this leaks out very quickly. >:(
Fear my friend, fear. That and absolutely no proof!

All of a Sludden

I'm gonna show you as gently as I can how much you don't know.

In the Onion Bag

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Quote from: Evil Genius on July 27, 2010, 07:52:42 PM
'Disingenuous'

The tribunal said: "We assessed the claimant to have been disingenuous at various points in his evidence."

Mr Quinn was not available for comment on Tuesday.

What does Disingenuous mean??

It is a word for those who cant use Google.

Muppet, a question please kind and knowledgble one from one who can't use Google. 
If you have consulted with Mr Google please tell us what does Disingenuous mean??

PS: Some advice; Google is for muppets, don't ask google ask me instead ;) ;D ;D .  Muppet is a super handle.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&defl=en&q=define:disingenuous&sa=X&ei=nnZRTPmGHImM0gSGyOn0Ag&ved=0CBIQkAE
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disingenuous
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disingenuous
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disingenuous

Living up to your moniker then MUPPET

saffron sam2

the breathing of the vanished lies in acres round my feet

lawnseed

did i read this case cost the beeb £600,000? it would have been cheaper to just report the dam sport >:(
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once

Maguire01

Quote from: lawnseed on September 10, 2010, 12:08:14 AM
did i read this case cost the beeb £600,000? it would have been cheaper to just report the dam sport >:(
Are you telling us or asking us?

And are you forgetting that it wasn't the BBC who took the case? And that they won?

Goats Do Shave

Quote from: Maguire01 on September 10, 2010, 07:22:16 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on September 10, 2010, 12:08:14 AM
did i read this case cost the beeb £600,000? it would have been cheaper to just report the dam sport >:(
Are you telling us or asking us?

And are you forgetting that it wasn't the BBC who took the case? And that they won?

Jerome was hardly charged expenses!!!? ???

Glensman

Quote from: Maguire01 on September 10, 2010, 07:22:16 AM
Quote from: lawnseed on September 10, 2010, 12:08:14 AM
did i read this case cost the beeb £600,000? it would have been cheaper to just report the dam sport >:(
Are you telling us or asking us?

And are you forgetting that it wasn't the BBC who took the case? And that they won?

As stated it wasn't the beeb who took the case. They were defending and won it.

As far as I am aware costs are rarely awarded in Employment Tribunal cases so the BBC probably had to foot the bill. Effectively, we as licence payers paid for Jerome's wee escapade. Will have to ask him for a pint next time I see him out.

Tough enough - I'd say Jerome isn't exactly too popular in certain media circles these days.

snatter

Hi Glensman,

The obvious solution to avoiding such costly proceedings is for BBC NI's coverage to be commensurate to the support that each sport receives locally.

Some small adjustment could be made to the formula to ensure that minority sports are covered.

To illustrate, imagine that, on a given date, there were two events, with 10,000 at an Ulster Club Championship gaelic football match, and 167 at Dungannon Swifts v Newry Town soccer match.

In a publicly funded media outlet, based on attendance figures, the gaelic match should get prominence as the lead story, and should receive 90% of available local NI sports broadcast time. The remaining 10% would cover the soccer match (generous considering it having a mere 0.016% of that day's spectators).

To date, BBC NI's coverage has not adhered to such simple reasoning. Having liaised with BBC NI on the matter, it appears that BBC NI hide behind opinion polls that say that soccer is NI's most popular sport and accordingly soccer should get prominence.

The key corrupting factor in BBC NI's reasoning is that they do not distinguish between English soccer and local NI soccer in the opinion polls used to direct editorial policy. If they did so, they would find that local NI soccer is of no interest to many who would follow English soccer. This lack of interest is confirmed by shockingly low attendance figures at NI soccer matches.  Moreover, actual attendance figures must surely be more accurate in gauging interest rather than opinion polls.

BBC NI need to be reminded that their remit is to cover local sport, and the scale and depth of local sport coverage should reflect interest in local, not English soccer. If they'd done that, they wouldn't have wasted an alleged  600k of public money.

Maguire01

Quote from: snatter on September 10, 2010, 01:52:01 PM
The obvious solution to avoiding such costly proceedings is for BBC NI's coverage to be commensurate to the support that each sport receives locally.
No, the obvious solution is for an employee not to behave unprofessionally and then play the victim when sacked, forcing the employer to defend itself.

Maguire01

Quote from: snatter on September 10, 2010, 01:52:01 PM
BBC NI need to be reminded that their remit is to cover local sport, and the scale and depth of local sport coverage should reflect interest in local, not English soccer. If they'd done that, they wouldn't have wasted an alleged  600k of public money.
Did you not read the judgement? They didn't waste £600k because of their coverage - any cost to public money was because an ex-employee brought a case that was found to be without foundation.

Orangemac

From what I've read of this Jerome Quinn seems to have acted like a big child throughout and he doesn't seem to have much of a case.

Having said that there is undoubtedly a culture of rugby, local soccer, hockey, gaa in that order.

When given licence to they can make good GAA programmes. The championship is good and the Season ticket specials on Oisin McConville and Marty Clarke were well made.

I would imagine in terms of viewing figures the Ulster championship would rank higher than the IFA cup final etc.

Rather than spend money on Irish language programmes that no one watches, they should make a good quality weekly GAA show and buy rights to show all GAA footage of league/championship.

Maguire01

Quote from: Orangemac on September 11, 2010, 12:47:53 AM
Having said that there is undoubtedly a culture of rugby, local soccer, hockey, gaa in that order.
Hockey? Where? How many hockey matches have been broadcast and when? And they're showing the Magners league this year, but before this, how much rugby did the BBC broadcast? And local soccer - is it one or two live matches a year?
The only place there might be some imbalance is the coverage on Newsline, but if you look across BBC NI, the GAA doesn't fare too bad at all.

Maguire01

Quote from: Orangemac on September 11, 2010, 12:47:53 AM
I would imagine in terms of viewing figures the Ulster championship would rank higher than the IFA cup final etc.

Rather than spend money on Irish language programmes that no one watches, they should make a good quality weekly GAA show and buy rights to show all GAA footage of league/championship.
You clearly don't understand the remit of the BBC. It's not a commercial broadcaster.

T Fearon

WTF? It was in the paper last week that Jerome is now seeking a judicial review of the original verdict??? I presume that the BBC would have insurance to cover the legal costs associated with cases like this and its not a case of licence fee money being squandered?

Having been in a witness box myself defending my employers in the past, I have always thought that it is far to easy in the North of Ireland for disgruntled employees to raise a false grievance, and take a case, in the hope of getting a handy few bob in an out of court settlement, or alternatively dragging their employers through the mud, as trhey know full well that even if they haven't a hope in hell of winning, some if not all of the mud they throw will stick in the public's mind.