Jerome Ousted?

[ONeill]

 
heres an example, during the fermanagh hurler thing on talkback i text-ed and phoned the programme about 10 times to say that all the guy had to do was tell anyone on the county board even the fella who makes the tea. sectarian bigotry or abuse has no place in the gaa this would be dealt with swiftly, "oh i'll pass that on" was all i could get. meanwhile all the shiteheads were on "we should cut their (gaa) grants" etc... It was obvious there was a political agenda so i texted "my name is billy i play gaa sometimes i get called names but i dont mind" within seconds my phone rang "hello billy this is talkback would you like to talk about the names your being called" i said that i didnt care and that i loved gaa. she continued to press me you need to tell someone etc... then i told her that infact i sat on the county board and that i had caught her and the bbc trying to get people to bad mouth the assoc she immediately hung up. this is the bbc that i get for £120/annum

To be honest, your point (albeit accurate) is so boring that I'd have put the phone down on you too. There's the need to chase ratings you know and a cross-dresser from Greencastle who won't get a game for the minors is much more interesting than a level headed point about proper procedure. That's the nature of the beast I'm afraid the world over.

[The Worker]

Would this add weight to the idea that this board should become members only?

I for one would be all for it.

[lawnseed]

this discussion is one of the reasons that the first test in the international rules should have been played in casement, i would dearly love to see the bigot broadcast corporation squirm as they try to avoid covering the match and the inevitable build up to the game. in the 06 test they made no mention of the series at all until i rang them to see if there were any other 60 or 70 thousand crowd matches on at the time. in the next sports bulletin they reported that an Irish player had been sited end of.. no wonder jq couldn't hold in.. i thought there were laws protecting whistle blowers (not refs) like nurses etc who report injustice

[NaomhBridAbú]

i'm only saying but...
- Mark Siders
- Thomas kane
- Thomas Biblock
- wee austin
- Lynette 'ye girl ye' Duncan, or whatever
hardly in the minority at the BBC?

i'd be more pissed off for Jerome if he was brilliant...

[lawnseed]

the point is PUBLIC SERVICE BROADCASTING the content of the programming should reflect public interest. right in the middle of the championship last year one of the sports featured on bbc radio was 'wife carrying' also 'tiddlywinks' in community centre in newtownards the gaa never got a mention. our sport/culture comes after schoolgirl hockey in the lineup. when they say football they mean soccer... the whole thing stinks and if Jerome can get on without them hes better off. the guy did well to stick them as long as he did, i hope he wins and does the rounds late late, Matt cooper, newstalk and on and on its time these crowd were held up to the light

[saffron sam2]

There are two sides to every story.Too many people here are blinded by the fact that Jerome is a "GAA man". As indeed are  / were Sean Quinn, Gerry McCarville and Michael Feeney. Few, if any, of us are in possession of the full facts. Still it doesn't stop some setting themselves up as the spokesperson for the gaaboard / all Gaels etc. Wise up. None of you speak for me. Likewise for every cry of "Foul" on this thread here, there are twenty you could drive a coach and horses through. The BBC has to account for every penny and if the viewing figures don't add up, then it won't be shown.

Yes, we can give credit for much of the enhanced GAA coverage on the BBC to Jerome Quinn, but much of his behaviour can be considered at best ill-advised, at worst idiotic. For example, the venture to Windsor in his Tyrone top and his posts here.

In addition we can all point to occasions when his parochialism ensured he was unable to do his job impartially. For example, his behaviour when Derry saw off his beloved Tyrone in the 2001 All-Ireland quarter final was the absolute nadir of his presenting career. Having witnessed his beloved Peter received a well-merited, if much belated, red card, you could see that he was about to burst into tears.

The term 'loose cannon' has been bandied about for years with regards to Jerome and this may be coming back to haunt him. Austin O'Callaghan and Sidebottom (for all his multitude of faults) are immeasureably more professional performers than Jerome Quinn.

If Jerome does win his case, excellent. It proves a bias we already know is there. But it is also telling that few (I mean none) of his former colleagues will raise their heads above the parapet to support him.

[Lady GAA GAA]

sure it even says there, he thought of himself as british. dont see what the fuss is about

[Lady GAA GAA]

And here he is at a NI match, poor man doesnt know what he is



Alternate view to Jerome's action:

The acronym 'MOPE' is well known in Northern Ireland. For the uninitiated, it stands for 'Most Oppressed People Ever' and both 'communities' here regularly vie for the title. Though, even by our tortured standards, this story just about takes the jammy dodger!

Ex BBC Northern Ireland sports presenter, Jerome Quinn, has taken his former bosses to a fair employment tribunal, alleging 'religious and racial harassment' because he is Irish (yep only in Ireland eh?). In addition he claims that the Corporation favours 'Protestant supported sports', like .... the North West 200!

Fans of the Northern Ireland football team will remember that Quinn has a history of taking offence. In 2001 he decided to wear a Tyrone Gaelic football jersey to a home match against Iceland at Windsor Park. Unfortunately the resultant article is no longer online, but some feedback still survives thanks to the BBC website's archive.

Quinn obviously thought that he would provoke a reaction, but alas no-one said boo to him at the game. He decided to construe silence as oppression anyway and alleged that Northern Ireland supporters were giving him the cold shoulder because he was the 'fella who commentated on the GAA'.

So, at least one group of sports' fans will not be surprised to find Quinn in front of a tribunal alleging that "less favourable treatment than if I was Protestant, British and not associated with the GAA" had led the BBC to replace him with, erm, 'Orange' Austin O'Callaghan from Sligo.

For the record, the Beeb sacked Quinn for using its computers to post anonymous criticism of his employer on GAA websites. Whoops!

http://threethousandversts.blogspot.com/2010/04/jerome-quinn-launches-record-attempt.html

[lawnseed]

saffron please re read your post what are you trying to say either the fella was discriminated against or he was'nt. i would relate his posts here to wanting to mix and share views with people of a similar interests, posters here have been blasting the beeb with both barrels since this forum started and before that in the irish news of the fence, and anywhere they can air their views. i once work in a government job where i was the only "catholic" in the place, have you ever struggled to express your culture, it cant have been easy listening to shite about soccer matches with dubbed on cheering, or watching sportsperson oty being rigged. this guys taking on golith, hes a true gael many a man in his position would have took it up the a.. and said nothin. laochra gael jerome quinn

[Lady GAA GAA]

Did Jerome really write that Windsor Park piece for the BBC? Wow.

[tyssam5]

There are two sides to every story.Too many people here are blinded by the fact that Jerome is a "GAA man". As indeed are  / were Sean Quinn, Gerry McCarville and Michael Feeney. Few, if any, of us are in possession of the full facts. Still it doesn't stop some setting themselves up as the spokesperson for the gaaboard / all Gaels etc. Wise up. None of you speak for me. Likewise for every cry of "Foul" on this thread here, there are twenty you could drive a coach and horses through. The BBC has to account for every penny and if the viewing figures don't add up, then it won't be shown.

Yes, we can give credit for much of the enhanced GAA coverage on the BBC to Jerome Quinn, but much of his behaviour can be considered at best ill-advised, at worst idiotic. For example, the venture to Windsor in his Tyrone top and his posts here.

In addition we can all point to occasions when his parochialism ensured he was unable to do his job impartially. For example, his behaviour when Derry saw off his beloved Tyrone in the 2001 All-Ireland quarter final was the absolute nadir of his presenting career. Having witnessed his beloved Peter received a well-merited, if much belated, red card, you could see that he was about to burst into tears.

The term 'loose cannon' has been bandied about for years with regards to Jerome and this may be coming back to haunt him. Austin O'Callaghan and Sidebottom (for all his multitude of faults) are immeasureably more professional performers than Jerome Quinn.

If Jerome does win his case, excellent. It proves a bias we already know is there. But it is also telling that few (I mean none) of his former colleagues will raise their heads above the parapet to support him.

Are you sure about that? They are a public service broadcaster, with mandate for quality etc.. if they wanted viewing figures they could be showing various reality TV shows instead of Songs of Praise etc.

Regarding posters who made comparisons about other presenters from a Catholic background, it would seem Jerome was there 15 some years. Perhaps a glass ceiling type effect?

[Lady GAA GAA]

Did Jerome post the anti-BBC comments under the name everyone knew him under, or under a different alias?

In his threads he was almost always addressed with his real name as opposed to his moniker.

The Championship - Wednesday at 11.20pm and Thursday at 7.00pm.

Can't remember this show at all!

[Main Street]

The plot to deprive Canavan of his Brit award

'Jackie Fullerton's role'

JQ claimed Mr Fullerton had liaised with his BBC boss to ensure a judging panel for the BBC Sports Personality of the Year Awards in 2008 would not favour a GAA winner.

In his role as organiser of the judging panel for the awards, Mr Quinn said he had a meeting with Mr Fullerton in which he "made it very clear that GAA should not have a chance of winning against someone who had won a medal at the Olympics or a Ryder Cup tournament." Mr Quinn alleged that he received an email soon after from his sports editor to enquire about the judging panel and make a change to the panel that would "lessen the chances of the GAA person winning the award".

Mr Quinn, who was revealed to have claimed Job Seeker's Allowance at one stage since being dismissed, relating to how the "GAA suffered on a daily basis" in terms of its coverage on BBC radio and television.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/sacked-bbc-presenter-jerome-quinn-tells-of-lsquojackie-fullertonrsquos-rolersquo-14783487.html#ixzz0mLmWr5Qp

'He added that he had been made aware of a rumour in January this year blaming him for endangering the personal safety of his former boss after his picture was posted on a GAA forum.'

'Mr Quinn denied having anything to do with the picture and said subsequent discussion on the matter within the BBC may have unfairly formed part of the reasons for his dismissal'.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/sacked-bbc-presenter-jerome-quinn-tells-of-lsquojackie-fullertonrsquos-rolersquo-14783487.html#ixzz0mLlzyZyH

[jodyb]

Going to buck the trend a wee bit here and defend the BBC. Last year, the BBC showed every Ulster Championship game bar one. They even televised the Cavan/Fermanagh slugfest and sure everyone knows Fermanagh is just water and Cavan's not even part of the sick counties. I think in the calendar year they showed one live soccer game from the Irish league - the Cup final. Throw in half a dozen NI games to that.

People talk about the BBC not showing club games within counties during the year. When on earth has RTE shown any interest in the club game from March til October? RTE's coverage of the NFL was relatively crap. The BBC actually showed clips on a Monday from a few of the second division games. The soccer v GAA Saturday coverage is a bit of an anomaly as what GAA can be shown at 5pm on a Saturday? In terms of the daily 6.30pm news, the soccer did seem to get first billing from Monday-Wed with the GAA perhaps forcing its way to the top of the news values the Thurs and Fri before a big game. That did grate a bit.

In terms of Jerome's case, a lot of it doesn't really make any sense. He mentions the Catholic/Irish oppression. Austin O'Callaghan, Thomas Niblock, Thomas Kane etc sort of negates that. Outside of sport I know personally of two high profile BBC correspondants from republican West Belfast who appear to be thriving career wise.

Jerome did a lot for the GAA on the BBC and kept batting away at the hatches when it was a rarity to get anthing on it and he truly deserves the moniker Mr GAA of the BBC. We owe him that. He may/must have experience some injustice from the hierarchy for him to take his case this far. Although it was probably inadvisable of him to take the case himself, I'd doubt if he could get anyone else to do it anyway. One good thing that could come out of this is that their GAA coverage may receive another boost out of embarrassment.

On a personal level, and it's just an honest appraisal of the two, I find O'Callaghan's presenting style and skills in a different league to Jerome. Quinn had a habit of reading out banal emails on who had the nicest jersies or best looking player to a rather bemused  McHugh and Burns whilst failing to keep tabs on his obvious Tyrone bias. O'Callaghan comes across as a much shrewder judge of a game and can ask searching questions of the panel. If the GAA were to get a much more in depth coverage as they did last year, in my opinion, O'Callaghan deserved the gig.

Again, on a personal level, I couldn't give a fiddlers about the British Broadcasting Corporation and their coverage of the GAA. I'll always use RTE (although I believe that's not an option for everyone) with the BBC as a back up if their game is more interesting. I don't pay me licence fee for the GAA coverage.

Have to say I agree with a lot of your points O Neill albeit with the caveat that my reason for watching RTE rather than the beeb is that I cant abide the utterances of that little Spillane wannabe Mc Hugh!

Anyway, back to the knittin. Much as I support Jerome's stance, I cant help but think, his own ego has led him to the point of self destruction. Firstly, who in the 21st century uses their workplace IT equipment maliciously or even mischeviously? Surely to Jesus he knew it could be monitored? Nobody needed to 'Grass him up' as has been alleged. He shot himself in the f#ckin a#se Did he think he was untouchable?  Furthermore, in an era when amateur players are engaging the services of barristers to take on amateur disciplinary committees, such is the magnitude of spin and technicalities, he actually is misguided enough to try to prosecute something as serious as an unfair dismissal case upon an organisation with a gargantuan legal department, without representation? There are no words to describe the folly Where in the name of jesus is his wit?

I am not trying to be demeaning to the guy, I respect his stance and would love to see him win. However, when the basic reason for dismissal has been conceded and apologised for, for Christ sake, what is he thinkin? The £500 an Hour beeb barristers will tear him a new a##hole.

[Logan]

There are two sides to every story.Too many people here are blinded by the fact that Jerome is a "GAA man". As indeed are  / were Sean Quinn, Gerry McCarville and Michael Feeney.

Maybe you'd elaborate on that for us