Queen visit to the North

[mackers]

I'm with Candyman on this one, the traffic this morning was a disgrace. The boys in the peaked caps couldn't organise a piss-up! They were letting people drive into trouble and then telling them they couldn't get through, surely in this day and age they could've had some sort of traffic management system!

[Tony Baloney]

I don't actually mind her visiting but I was pissed off this morning trying to get from Monaghan Road end of Armagh to Portadown Road. There were no diversions signs up and there were loads of southern reg and foreign vehichles really struggling as surprisingly they don't know their way around St. Brigids or Ogle St.!!!!

[T Fearon]

Just think of what it will be like when Benedict comes to Armagh, later this year

It was damn inconsiderate of St Patrick to associate himself with a place so devoid of infrastructure to manage large volumes of people

[Fluffy Che]

We've had republicans giving up their lives on hunger strike for what they believe in.

Sinn Fein members murdered by British forces.

Sinn Fein member's families murdered by British forces.

Republicans and nationalists murdered and harassed by British forces.

Now they're going to lose a vote if they don't meet the Queen!

Jeeez, you boys have a hard life down there..

[Tankie]

We've had republicans giving up their lives on hunger strike for what they believe in.

Sinn Fein members murdered by British forces.

Sinn Fein member's families murdered by British forces.

Republicans and nationalists murdered and harassed by British forces.

Now they're going to lose a vote if they don't meet the Queen!

Jeeez, you boys have a hard life down there..

Times move on, And Yes they have lost my vote and I expect them to act like adults and move on from the past and work together to sort it all out. It is not the Queen that has said she wants the North, its the majority of the people in the North who want to remain British.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

We've had republicans giving up their lives on hunger strike for what they believe in.

Sinn Fein members murdered by British forces.

Sinn Fein member's families murdered by British forces.

Republicans and nationalists murdered and harassed by British forces.

Now they're going to lose a vote if they don't meet the Queen!

Jeeez, you boys have a hard life down there..

Times move on, And Yes they have lost my vote and I expect them to act like adults and move on from the past and work together to sort it all out. It is not the Queen that has said she wants the North, its the majority of the people in the North who want to remain British.

Thought that you where only considering not giving them your vote (5th or 6th preference) this morning? 

[Gnevin]

If a Sinn Fein lad became Minster for foreign affairs down here would he also pick and choose who to meet?

[his holiness nb]

I'm starting to think Tankie was never going to vote for them either way, just a convenient platform to have a dig.

would you have a problem with the Dalai Lama refusing to meet the chinese head of state?

[SammyG]

would you have a problem with the Dalai Lama refusing to meet the chinese head of state?

Please tell me you're not trying to compare Gerry and the Peacemakers to the Dalai Lama?

[his holiness nb]

No, I am comparing one leader of a community whose land is under occupation by an imperialist force, with another.

In no way did I suggest they were in any way similar personally, although the fate of the people they represent is quite similar.

I have no doubt however that if the Dalai Lama did refuse this meeting, many of the chinese side would tell him to "act like adults and move on from the past and work together to sort it all out".

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

would you have a problem with the Dalai Lama refusing to meet the chinese head of state?

Please tell me you're not trying to compare Gerry and the Peacemakers to the Dalai Lama?

Not at all Sammy, sure Gerry and co have no problem getting meetings with unionists, where as the Dalai Lama can't.  

[Tankie]

I'm starting to think Tankie was never going to vote for them either way, just a convenient platform to have a dig.

would you have a problem with the Dalai Lama refusing to meet the chinese head of state?

I did vote for them already. i said i will not vote again, if you read the thread and not jump in you will see this.

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

Tankie, it would be electoral suicide up here if a Sinn Fein member were to meet the Queen of England, and quite possibly risking physical harm as well.

The Shinners probably think that they have moved enough by simply not protesting at the visit, like they used to.

Thats fair enough i guess. I wonder what their stance is down here as I gave one of them a vote down here but if i was too hear that he would have a problem meeting a Foreign Head of state after being invited by the Government he wouldn't be getting my vote again.

See in bold

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

Tankie, you will probably discern that there is a world of difference between welcomig a Head of State and meeting the representative of a sectarian monarchy (from which catholics are debarred) from a nation that has caused untold misery and suffering in your own country.

Would you be happy if any of your representatives welcomed Mugabe to Dublin?

Mugabe is a different story, what he is doing at this present day is shocking. Alot of the British faults are in the past and have made a genuine effort toward Ireland in recent times. If we were to bring up the past we would not welcome, German, Italian or Spanish heads of states for what they have done in the world or the Chinese leader but people will still talk to him. I would expect my Sinn Fein elected TD to meet the Queen if she was in Dublin and I would never vote for Sinn Fein again if they did not.

Again see in bold

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

We've had republicans giving up their lives on hunger strike for what they believe in.

Sinn Fein members murdered by British forces.

Sinn Fein member's families murdered by British forces.

Republicans and nationalists murdered and harassed by British forces.

Now they're going to lose a vote if they don't meet the Queen!

Jeeez, you boys have a hard life down there..

Times move on, And Yes they have lost my vote and I expect them to act like adults and move on from the past and work together to sort it all out. It is not the Queen that has said she wants the North, its the majority of the people in the North who want to remain British.

In the space of a morning we end up with - in bold!! 

No agenda here then - move on