Boxing Thread

[Boycey]

Jaysus call it for what it was, a shocking decision. No one ringside thought she won, her corner didn't think she won, got a message from a friend who's at MSG he said it was robbery too. 

[Main Street]

The rte updater had katie ahead by 5-4  (one drawn) on the round by round assessment  yet was surprised when Katie was adjudged the winner. Go figure.

here are the judges marks

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8BT8TeX4AEqI9O.jpg

[Solo_run]

Wow wow wow!



Joshua was destroyed!

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Great stuff. Aj  and hearn have been hiding from a fight for years. Too busy protecting his undefeated record. Well its gone now. So he will have to fight Fury and Wilder and going on this he will be destroyed again

[Hound]

The rte updater had katie ahead by 5-4  (one drawn) on the round by round assessment  yet was surprised when Katie was adjudged the winner. Go figure.

here are the judges marks

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8BT8TeX4AEqI9O.jpg

Whoever wins the later rounds always gives the best impression, but nicking the first is the very same as dominating the last. Frampton was some numpty calling it an "absolute disgrace". It was a tight fight that could have gone either way. I always find a good way to judge the decision is to take the majority view of the judge's scores on a round-by-round basis, which gives the following outcome:

1. KT
2. P
3. KT
4. KT
5. KT
6. KT
7. P
8. P
9. KT
10. P

So 6-4 for Katie.

[gallsman]

That's perfectly sound logic, Hound.

If only people could see fit to apply that to fights being those featuring our homegrown stars, e.g. GGG vs Canelo II. Exact same situation, could have gone either way depending on how you see some very tight rounds. Yet people don't get the result they want off it so an incredibly close fight that could have gone either way becomes a "robbery".

[Boycey]

I'm watching boxing long enough to be able to watch dispassionately, Katie didn't win in my opinion plus a vast amount of well respected boxing people who were there

[Boycey]

Ruiz gives all us fat fellas hope 

[laoislad]

Fair play to Katie Taylor. Ireland's greatest ever sportsperson.

[Main Street]

The rte updater had katie ahead by 5-4  (one drawn) on the round by round assessment  yet was surprised when Katie was adjudged the winner. Go figure.

here are the judges marks

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8BT8TeX4AEqI9O.jpg

Whoever wins the later rounds always gives the best impression, but nicking the first is the very same as dominating the last. Frampton was some numpty calling it an "absolute disgrace". It was a tight fight that could have gone either way. I always find a good way to judge the decision is to take the majority view of the judge's scores on a round-by-round basis, which gives the following outcome:

1. KT
2. P
3. KT
4. KT
5. KT
6. KT
7. P
8. P
9. KT
10. P

So 6-4 for Katie.

Frampton called it 8-2 for Persoon 


One of the failings in this scoring system is that a boxer on the receiving end of a pummeling in a single round, still scores a 9  as long as a knockdown is avoided.

[Boycey]

A bigger flaw in my opinion is a reluctance to give a round 10/10, most of us watching will have a couple of rounds even while the judges seem to be intructed to find a winner in each round. Take Katie's fight last night not one of the judges saw fit to give a shared round which in a close fight is mindboggling

[marty34]

Boxing must be the only sport that nobody knows who is winning during it.

We have to wait to it's over to see who the winner is.  Very strange indeed!!

Spectators in gaa, soccer and athletics all know who is in the lead during the games etc.

Anybody think of any other sports where we don't have the score during the action?

[Main Street]

A bigger flaw in my opinion is a reluctance to give a round 10/10, most of us watching will have a couple of rounds even while the judges seem to be intructed to find a winner in each round. Take Katie's fight last night not one of the judges saw fit to give a shared round which in a close fight is mindboggling

That's not a flaw in the rules, the voting system allows for judge  to award a 10/10. However it's in the rules that as long as boxer stays standing, at least 9 points is awarded regardless.

[Boycey]

10-8 can be given without a knockdown. Would you agree that last night there was more scope for 10-10s rather than 10-8s yet there were none?

[Hound]

10-10 doesn't really exist. Except as a statistical anomaly. Check all online scorecards for big fights. 10-10 appears about 1 in 1000 times. I think it's only used if both fighters do nothing in a round. Otherwise judges are instructed to pick who did the best