Boxing Thread

Started by bennydorano, November 04, 2007, 09:00:01 PM

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gallsman

Frampton clearly won but a much tougher fight than it should have been. Really begs the question as to what's left.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: gallsman on November 19, 2017, 02:24:18 AM
Frampton clearly won but a much tougher fight than it should have been. Really begs the question as to what's left.

Whole training regime has changed this won't be an easy transition from what he had to now! Would need to pick a couple of easier fights if I'm honest before even thinking about Selby or anyone else! He's 30 now been hard at it since he was a young lad and finding it very difficult to make weight, Garcia was a bigger unit than Carl and once he got through the first 4 rounds he was sticking around!

How the ref seen that as a knockdown is beyond me, that's what made it tighter, unless the judges disregarded that
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

imtommygunn

Frampton said according to rules it should count as knockdown as he was hit after he slipped...

Milltown Row2

Well yes, but would have been very harsh had that have cost him the fight!

Bunce who I'd listen to on his fight knowledge was spot on today on 5 live, tiredness new team (promotion management trainer) plus the split with Barry was emotional, certainly from all the information that I was getting from the family, glad that things have been smooth in that respect!

Carl's not going to be pulling up trees at this stage, was told his sparing has completely changed from before and prep totally different. I suppose at this stage you can't go hammer and tongs at it.. get a few more pay days and a title fight would be plenty for him to retire, be a commentator/pundit and enjoy his hard work
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Gabriel_Hurl

Haye pulls out of the Bellew fight

square_ball

That must be Haye finished at this stage.

Atticus_Finch

Barry McGuigan and Cyclone promotions have launched legal proceedings against Carl Frampton in relation to their split earlier this year.

A statement released by Frampton's legal representative, John Finucane read:

"Mr Frampton is deeply disappointed that Cyclone Promotions have decided to initiate legal action against him, however he will not only defend this action rigorously but can confirm he will be counter claiming on a number of grounds.

"Mr Frampton is confident that this process will vindicate his position and reputation, and looks forward to engaging fully in this process to present all aspects of this claim before the court.

"Therefore it would be inappropriate to issue any further comment at this time."


Bold move by Barry here, one that I think they will later regret. Boxers from here operate in a pretty tight knit circle. Not too many fighters will want to be doing business with them again.

In hindsight I think the prospect of a potential legal battle with the McGuigans was a major factor in Carl signing with Frank Warren, he's not a bad man to have in your corner when it comes to a legal dispute he has a bit of experience over the years.
"The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience."

Milltown Row2

Sad state of affairs and there will be plenty coming out of this that won't look good for Barry and family, Carl sought legal advice in this before changing management..
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

BennyHarp

This is very sad. I seem to remember Barry saying one of biggest regrets in life was standing in court opposite Barney Eastwood, yet here he is again. Clearly irreconcilable differences here but nobody wins if this goes to court.
That was never a square ball!!

Milltown Row2

Well it's breach of contract so o can totally see why Barry is going down this route, but there should have been an easier way
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

tyroneman

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2017, 07:14:16 PM

Sad state of affairs and there will be plenty coming out of this that won't look good for Barry and family, Carl sought legal advice in this before changing management..

Well it's breach of contract so o can totally see why Barry is going down this route, but there should have been an easier way

Bit confused by this..on one hand you say.Frampton took legal advice then say it's a breach of contract??..is mcGuigan or Frampton in the right , legally..and/or morally?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: tyroneman on November 26, 2017, 07:33:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2017, 07:14:16 PM

Sad state of affairs and there will be plenty coming out of this that won't look good for Barry and family, Carl sought legal advice in this before changing management..

Well it's breach of contract so o can totally see why Barry is going down this route, but there should have been an easier way

Yes to both statements
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: tyroneman on November 26, 2017, 07:33:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2017, 07:14:16 PM

Sad state of affairs and there will be plenty coming out of this that won't look good for Barry and family, Carl sought legal advice in this before changing management..

Well it's breach of contract so o can totally see why Barry is going down this route, but there should have been an easier way

Bit confused by this..on one hand you say.Frampton took legal advice then say it's a breach of contract??..is mcGuigan or Frampton in the right , legally..and/or morally?

There are things that have come to light about the dealings during Carl's time with cyclone promotions, and yes if Carl was in breach of contract then Barry is in his rights if that's the case, but I was told Carl had sought legal advice before the move so who knows, until it all comes out in court...

Unfortunately it will be dirty linen washed out in public.. no good for anyone
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

lurganblue

So I am assuming that Carl and his lawyers felt that the actions of the mcguigan's had already left their contract null and void, freeing him from it's obligations.

NAG1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2017, 08:10:42 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 26, 2017, 07:33:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2017, 07:14:16 PM

Sad state of affairs and there will be plenty coming out of this that won't look good for Barry and family, Carl sought legal advice in this before changing management..

Well it's breach of contract so o can totally see why Barry is going down this route, but there should have been an easier way

Bit confused by this..on one hand you say.Frampton took legal advice then say it's a breach of contract??..is mcGuigan or Frampton in the right , legally..and/or morally?

There are things that have come to light about the dealings during Carl's time with cyclone promotions, and yes if Carl was in breach of contract then Barry is in his rights if that's the case, but I was told Carl had sought legal advice before the move so who knows, until it all comes out in court...

Unfortunately it will be dirty linen washed out in public.. no good for anyone

Its great for everyone MR2, boxing is a shady game with people trying to exploit each other for as much as they can get away with at pretty much every opportunity. So it will be interesting to see who was doing the dirty tricks in this one.

To be fair, did everyone not see this ending in exactly this fashion from the minute the ink was dry on the first contract?