Boxing Thread

Started by bennydorano, November 04, 2007, 09:00:01 PM

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omaghjoe


BennyHarp

I had Ward by two rounds. I didn't think Kovalev won any of the last 6 rounds. Definite rematch though!
That was never a square ball!!

omaghjoe

Quote from: BennyHarp on November 20, 2016, 05:42:31 AM
I had Ward by two rounds. I didn't think Kovalev won any of the last 6 rounds. Definite rematch though!

You give R10 to Ward?

HiMucker

Could have went either way.  Ward for me shaded it and I had money on kovalev.  Has to be a rematch to settle it.

JimStynes

I thought it was very close as well but Kovalev won by one or two rounds for me. The 10-8 round being the main difference. 3 American judges is a joke though. Also, I love listening to Roy Jones Jnr anytime he is commentating. Great to see two genuine great fighters actually fighting! Hopefully they do it again.

omaghjoe

Ward is shite to watch.

His gameplan tonight was basically counter with a grab, then sneak a punch to the ribs when breaking away, maybe throw in a featherweight jab every so often. If you score those crappy little shots the same as Kovalevs clean hard punches you need your head examined.




BennyHarp

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Quote from: omaghjoe on November 20, 2016, 05:59:11 AM
Ward is shite to watch.

His gameplan tonight was basically counter with a grab, then sneak a punch to the ribs when breaking away, maybe throw in a featherweight jab every so often. If you score those crappy little shots the same as Kovalevs clean hard punches you need your head examined.

How many clean hard punches did he actually land? Granted, when he landed he hurt Ward but barely landed another after he dropped Ward in round 2. For me, Ward bossed the second half if the fight and although I wouldn't have argued with a Kovalev win as it was very close, I had Ward up by two. The work that Ward does as counters are an art in themselves and shouldn't be discounted. Boxing isn't just about who hits the hardest and landing a couple of big shots isn't enough to win you a fight on points.

Watch the Darleys Perez fight beforehand if you want to see proper dodgy judging!
That was never a square ball!!

nrico2006

Kovalev won five of the first six rounds and had a 10-8 in there too. Another shitty boxing decision.
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BennyHarp

Quote from: nrico2006 on November 20, 2016, 09:28:39 AM
Kovalev won five of the first six rounds and had a 10-8 in there too. Another shitty boxing decision.

He definitely didn't win the 3rd or 5th.
That was never a square ball!!

DuffleKing


He didn't win the 3rd, 4th or 5th and very few after that.

Contrary to previous opinion, I love watching ward work. His movement is so fluid and defence tactically excellent.

I had ward by a round overall.

gallsman

Have just watched without knowing result and had it 115-114 to kovalev. Scored the 4th and 5th a 10-10.

gallsman

Two judges gave Ward the 12th, which was what won him the fight in the end. Thought that was clearly, but not comfortably, kovalev's.

Don't think it's as disgraceful a decision as some are making out as the drawn rounds I gave could be scored either way. I hate this insistence on scoring a 10-9 when there's no clear winner of a round.

an léirmheastóir

Quote from: BennyHarp on November 20, 2016, 06:28:47 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on November 20, 2016, 05:59:11 AM
Ward is shite to watch.

His gameplan tonight was basically counter with a grab, then sneak a punch to the ribs when breaking away, maybe throw in a featherweight jab every so often. If you score those crappy little shots the same as Kovalevs clean hard punches you need your head examined.

How many clean hard punches did he actually land? Granted, when he landed he hurt Ward but barely landed another after he dropped Ward in round 2. For me, Ward bossed the second half if the fight and although I wouldn't have argued with a Kovalev win as it was very close, I had Ward up by two. The work that Ward does as counters are an art in themselves and shouldn't be discounted. Boxing isn't just about who hits the hardest and landing a couple of big shots isn't enough to win you a fight on points.

Watch the Darleys Perez fight beforehand if you want to see proper dodgy judging!


Can't disagree with your assessment 100% on the money

Medic

#4813
Chris Eubank Junior: "Did they really just give that fight to Andre Ward? Well if Trump can win the presidency then anything is possible these days #KovalevWard"


Sergey Kovalev vs Andre Ward Post Fight Analysis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKr0VhgDGHw

Ward vs Kovalev (post fight thoughts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqlHqHsGzmc

Andre Ward vs Sergey Kovalev Reaction Live post Fight (I had 115-112 Kov) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB-WzV10e98

Andre Ward Beats Sergey Kovalev Reaction! ROBBERY! (HIGHWAY ROBBERY!!!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Def6Kt7jiA0

Sergey kovalev ROBBED !!!!!!!!!! AND WARD KNOWS IT...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCyMjdISz1A

Kovalev vs Ward Controversy or Robbery? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VElrzzUE36o

Kovalev vs. Ward RANDOM REACTIONS From Boxing Fraternity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iin4Z70_mwc

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omaghjoe

Quote from: an léirmheastóir on November 20, 2016, 02:06:43 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on November 20, 2016, 06:28:47 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on November 20, 2016, 05:59:11 AM
Ward is shite to watch.

His gameplan tonight was basically counter with a grab, then sneak a punch to the ribs when breaking away, maybe throw in a featherweight jab every so often. If you score those crappy little shots the same as Kovalevs clean hard punches you need your head examined.

How many clean hard punches did he actually land? Granted, when he landed he hurt Ward but barely landed another after he dropped Ward in round 2. For me, Ward bossed the second half if the fight and although I wouldn't have argued with a Kovalev win as it was very close, I had Ward up by two. The work that Ward does as counters are an art in themselves and shouldn't be discounted. Boxing isn't just about who hits the hardest and landing a couple of big shots isn't enough to win you a fight on points.

Watch the Darleys Perez fight beforehand if you want to see proper dodgy judging!


Can't disagree with your assessment 100% on the money

Alright fair enough Ive calmed down, rewatched the fight, tried to see it from Ward's perspective read a few opinions from both sides of the fence and......

WHAT THE f**k sort of a decision was that. KOVALEV WAS STRAIGHT UP ROBBED!

That fight was over by R6. Ward fought his fight and won more of the later rounds granted but he won them by default, he won them because Kovalev was tired and saving his energy down the stretch to last the distance and to put in a few big rounds to reassert his dominance and seal the points victory. The rounds which sealed the deal where 10 and 12. He won those rounds clearly and how many was he awarded on the cards?..... 1 out of 6....Disgraceful!

I already asked someone that said he had Ward winning all of the last 6 rounds how they had him winning 10? Add 12 to that! Which actually was even more conclusive. On a side note it was rather bizarre move of Kovalev to start the body shots in R12 but he caught Ward real well with one of them and Ward was actually running and hanging on for the rest of the fight.

BTW the fight was rubbish thanks to Ward