Boxing Thread

Started by bennydorano, November 04, 2007, 09:00:01 PM

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Atticus_Finch

I see box rec now have Frampton in the top ten pound for pound fighters list at number 9, sandwiched between Klitschko at number 8 and Kell Brook at number 10.

Some achievement and well deserved.

One boy up the list a bit who's place might not be so comfortable at the minute is Tyson Fury, he pulled out of the Klitschko fight citing injury on the same day he was banned by the UKAD for testing positive for nandrolone.  Ban has been lifted ahead until a hearing in front of the national anti doping panel. 


MR - Interested in your thoughts where Frampton goes from here ?  Selby fight would be great but would be a bigger fight if Selby has a high profile win beforehand.

I could see someone like Abner Mares coming over to Belfast for his next fight ?  Mares still a big name stateside with a point to prove.
"The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience."

lurganblue

Quote from: Atticus_Finch on August 04, 2016, 01:12:29 PM
I see box rec now have Frampton in the top ten pound for pound fighters list at number 9, sandwiched between Klitschko at number 8 and Kell Brook at number 10.

Some achievement and well deserved.

One boy up the list a bit who's place might not be so comfortable at the minute is Tyson Fury, he pulled out of the Klitschko fight citing injury on the same day he was banned by the UKAD for testing positive for nandrolone.  Ban has been lifted ahead until a hearing in front of the national anti doping panel. 


MR - Interested in your thoughts where Frampton goes from here ?  Selby fight would be great but would be a bigger fight if Selby has a high profile win beforehand.

I could see someone like Abner Mares coming over to Belfast for his next fight ?  Mares still a big name stateside with a point to prove.

talk that santa cruz will be activating a rematch clause in the contract.

gallsman

Quote from: Atticus_Finch on August 04, 2016, 01:12:29 PM
I see box rec now have Frampton in the top ten pound for pound fighters list at number 9, sandwiched between Klitschko at number 8 and Kell Brook at number 10.

Some achievement and well deserved.

One boy up the list a bit who's place might not be so comfortable at the minute is Tyson Fury, he pulled out of the Klitschko fight citing injury on the same day he was banned by the UKAD for testing positive for nandrolone.  Ban has been lifted ahead until a hearing in front of the national anti doping panel. 


MR - Interested in your thoughts where Frampton goes from here ?  Selby fight would be great but would be a bigger fight if Selby has a high profile win beforehand.

I could see someone like Abner Mares coming over to Belfast for his next fight ?  Mares still a big name stateside with a point to prove.

Mares certainly an option, Donaire too for some further exposure in the US. Selby, like Quigg, would be a big draw at home but Frampton is in the driving seat. Really up to him. Personally would love to see the rematch.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Atticus_Finch on August 04, 2016, 01:12:29 PM
I see box rec now have Frampton in the top ten pound for pound fighters list at number 9, sandwiched between Klitschko at number 8 and Kell Brook at number 10.

Some achievement and well deserved.

One boy up the list a bit who's place might not be so comfortable at the minute is Tyson Fury, he pulled out of the Klitschko fight citing injury on the same day he was banned by the UKAD for testing positive for nandrolone.  Ban has been lifted ahead until a hearing in front of the national anti doping panel. 


MR - Interested in your thoughts where Frampton goes from here ?  Selby fight would be great but would be a bigger fight if Selby has a high profile win beforehand.

I could see someone like Abner Mares coming over to Belfast for his next fight ?  Mares still a big name stateside with a point to prove.

Inlaws just back from New York, thought the fight at ringside was always in favour of Carl (well for most rounds)  so coming round to watch the fight tonight and talk about options... Think personally five fights would be enough over next 2 and half years, 29 now. Couple of fights in the states, one in England and couple in Belfast....

Carl is a good talker, and would be intelligent enough to do punditry around Britain and beyond... Hard to tell someone to quit when at the top of their game I suppose
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

DuffleKing


rigondeaux Won't feature in the plans? I've seen lists of possible opponents and no mention of the Cuban at all.

The Iceman

I think if he fought Mares they'd want to keep it in the states - he's a solid name over here, strong mexican who can brawl and put on exciting fights - would do better PPV numbers here than in belfast...
carl is a great boxer and would be too technical for Mares but a great, exciting fight nonetheless with a well known U.S name - smart fight for good money
I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

omaghjoe

Dont think Rigo features on anyones plans there is no money in him and he would likely beat anyone below 127

Hardly think Frampton will be up to PPV level in the US yet, in fact I would say he's still miles of it

DennistheMenace

Gary Russel Jr too risky an option probably.

Milltown Row2

chatting last night and they have said its an 8 fight finish from here on in, providing there are no upsets in between, but a defeat to Carl will be just that a defeat and he'll move on to the next guy, he was a great amateur and lost fights but always bounced back, so taking that forward wouldn't be a big thing to him in his professional life...

Nothing has been planned at this point so its a case of wait and see who comes forward with the best deal I suppose, Russell, Selby in Cardiff would be a big earner, Mares would be another taster for the American fight fans... he might even finish off fighting rigondeaux, as I'm sure very aware of what others have said, but when you are managed by someone you take their judgement on things, its done him no harm so far!!

main thing is to not get carried away (which is not in his nature) approach each fight with the same professional attitude as before, take nothing for granted and trust your body to tell you what you can do
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Atticus_Finch

Great position to be in, to not only have plenty of options but to be able to call the shots on those options.

Woke up on the morning after the fight and took a look at the Sports Personality of the Year award market.  Stan James had him priced up at 200/1, thought i't was worth a  fiver.  They were not offering e/w terms (i.e. top 3 finish), wish they were.  If Frampton has a big fight in October/ November I think he would be a contender for a top 3 finish in it especially if it was Selby but can't see it happening this year.  In contrast to the likes of Murray at least Frampton has the personality which despite the title of the award doesn't seem to be as an important part of the criteria as it should be.

Iceman - Agree a fight with Mares would do better PPV numbers in the States.  Think if Carl had his heart set on a fight in Belfast then Mares would be willing to travel over. 



"The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience."

nrico2006

Rigondeaux is getting older and has been put down quite a few times recently.  Russel Junior is very good but apparently he is going to move up and chase for a rematch with Lomachenko, although I heard conflicting reports that he wants to unify the FW division first.  A lot of interesting fights out there in this division now, as Quigg will come into the equation I can see him having a big fight soon against one of the big hitters.  It also goes to show how underwhelming JJ Nevin's career has been so far when you see someone he beat at the Olympics sitting as a World FW Champion now.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

gallsman

Nevin has had a fair few issues since 2012.

DuffleKing


I understand the politics and business influence on making matches in professional boxing now but it really frustrates me.

Rigondeaux And GGG have both had relatively low profile and middling careers because the best fighters around them won't face them. Again, I understand why but I pine for the era when every fighter wanted to prove he was king of the jungle and took on all comers. Invariably the money took care of itself on the back of that approach.

Rigondeaux Looks really classy and maybe untouchable but with Father Time creeping about it looks like we'll not have any evidence either way.

Christmas Lights

Thats why I admire Amir Khan to be honest, he never ducks anyone and always looks to fight the best.  Boxing can be so frustrating because a lot of the time you rarely see number 1 vs number 2.  The best boxers are so desperate to keep an unbeaten record that they start to cherry pick fights.  PBF Mayweather has been doing it for years. 

lurganblue

Quote from: Christmas Lights on August 05, 2016, 03:08:48 PM
Thats why I admire Amir Khan to be honest, he never ducks anyone and always looks to fight the best.  Boxing can be so frustrating because a lot of the time you rarely see number 1 vs number 2.  The best boxers are so desperate to keep an unbeaten record that they start to cherry pick fights.  PBF Mayweather has been doing it for years.

Khan has ducked Brook for years now