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NAG1

Quote from: Christmas Lights on July 20, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else think Barry McGuigan is insufferable to listen to.  I cant warm to the man at all.

+1

I think he is the reason why a lot of people would like to see Frampton fail. He has everything that people in the North of the country could and would get behind, but then you have that other pr**k mouthing off at every opportunity and that turns people off.

tyroneboi

Quote from: NAG1 on July 21, 2015, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on July 20, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else think Barry McGuigan is insufferable to listen to.  I cant warm to the man at all.

+1

I think he is the reason why a lot of people would like to see Frampton fail. He has everything that people in the North of the country could and would get behind, but then you have that other pr**k mouthing off at every opportunity and that turns people off.

A year or 18 months ago I would have disagreed with CL but the past while he is starting to grate on me big style. His dislike of Eddie Hearn is delaying the Quigg fight in my opinion. On the other hand I think Shane is a great trainer by the looks of it and actually talks a lot of sense. Whether he got the last fight wrong in terms of the camp and tactics is hard to know but I am sure he will learn from that too.

Christmas Lights

Quote from: tyroneboi on July 21, 2015, 01:59:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on July 21, 2015, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on July 20, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else think Barry McGuigan is insufferable to listen to.  I cant warm to the man at all.

+1

I think he is the reason why a lot of people would like to see Frampton fail. He has everything that people in the North of the country could and would get behind, but then you have that other pr**k mouthing off at every opportunity and that turns people off.

A year or 18 months ago I would have disagreed with CL but the past while he is starting to grate on me big style. His dislike of Eddie Hearn is delaying the Quigg fight in my opinion. On the other hand I think Shane is a great trainer by the looks of it and actually talks a lot of sense. Whether he got the last fight wrong in terms of the camp and tactics is hard to know but I am sure he will learn from that too.

Shane seems a more likeable character than his auld boy in fairness.  He's still a really young trainer also so he will make mistakes also.  It wasn't a disaster Saturday, it wasn't a great performance but he got the job done.  Be very interesting to see who they line up next.

Preferably I'd like to see in this order

-Scott Quigg
-Leo Santa Cruz
-Guillermo Rigondeaux

I seen that in the last few days though there is talk in ring magazine of Quigg vs Rigondeaux

Would Donaire not still be a big draw at this weight?  I don't really see anyone mentioning him for Frampton?

gallsman

Quote from: Christmas Lights on July 21, 2015, 02:04:26 PM
Would Donaire not still be a big draw at this weight?  I don't really see anyone mentioning him for Frampton?

Think the fact that Rigondeaux completely bamboozled him and he got badly knocked out by Walters has set him back a lot. Think he's back at super bantam though.

Christmas Lights

Walters would hardly be an option for Frampton?  Too big?

Syferus

Is there really people as small as to want Frampton to lose because they don't like McGuigan? Pathetic if true. Frampton has been a class act in and out of the ring and deserves all the support he can get on this island.

NAG1

Quote from: Syferus on July 21, 2015, 02:31:50 PM
Is there really people as small as to want Frampton to lose because they don't like McGuigan? Pathetic if true. Frampton has been a class act in and out of the ring and deserves all the support he can get on this island.

Yes when he has a mouthpiece like McGuigan doing all the talking for him, 'I made him' type quotes coming from BMcG certainly dont help.

People dislike BMcG he is making big money off the back of this so yeah I would say people would like to see this end even.


Milltown Row2

Quote from: NAG1 on July 21, 2015, 03:18:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 21, 2015, 02:31:50 PM
Is there really people as small as to want Frampton to lose because they don't like McGuigan? Pathetic if true. Frampton has been a class act in and out of the ring and deserves all the support he can get on this island.

Yes when he has a mouthpiece like McGuigan doing all the talking for him, 'I made him' type quotes coming from BMcG certainly dont help.

People dislike BMcG he is making big money off the back of this so yeah I would say people would like to see this end even.

Lads you must be very ill informed on some aspects of this, I've known Carl many years ( my wife's cuz) he's as nice a person you'll ever meet... Barry took Carl on, went to him and asked to be his first fighter, similarities were uncanny in fairness, great amateur and  world champion just like Barry, Carl bought into it and Barrys promise of making him a world champion came true, Barry never took a penny off Carl until he was champion... That was his promise from the start and that's how it went... Carl stays with Barry at his home every week during training, and the only money paid out is for his coach Shane and the others involved in training, The McQuigans treat Carl like their own son... Carl also gets a cut off the Cyclone promotions company.   

Outside looking in people will see Barry jumping about and saying this and that.... In my view its all promotion and bigging up Carl... It may come to a natural point in the partnership that they decide to part ways, happens in all walks off life, but for now he's got all he's wanted...
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

gallsman

Quote from: Christmas Lights on July 21, 2015, 02:17:55 PM
Walters would hardly be an option for Frampton?  Too big?

I'm not suggesting it at all, just pointing out that Donaire got badly shook up by him is all.

If talk about moving up in weight is true though, Walters is the top dog in the division and theoretically someone Carl should be chasing. I don't think he'd want any of him though. Simply a monster of a featherweight.

Syferus

#3939
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/394975-carl-frampton-wasnt-perfect-but-he-was-very-good-weekend-review

Interesting how the fight played outside of Ireland and Britain. They're looking at the Santa Cruz possibilities rather than the Quigg ones. And they reckon Quigg-Donaire in Dubai is where the Hearn camp are heading.

DuffleKing


How does Mayweather make any money from this Berto fight?  I assume noone will go or but ppv for what will be a non event?

The Iceman

 heard the fight could be on network TV in America. CBS would pay decent money for it.
The only fight out there I'm interested in is Golovkin and Lemieux. Would love to be at the garden for it!

I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

omaghjoe

Spot on Iceman should be a cracker, Leminex has the power to at least keep GGG off and maybe even bother him. His nonexistent boxing skills should mean Golovkin has little trouble tho..

Cotto Canelo should be more interesting, well matched in power, weight and style. I don't think its officially made yet tho, but looks like Nov

Atticus_Finch

Lee vs Saunders fight is postponed and is now taking place in Manchester October 10th.

Official line is that Lee has a virus, hearing that the real reason is to do with poor ticket sales for Thomond Park.  Bit of a shame for Andy Lee, always comes across as a decent fella.
"The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience."

Asal Mor

Quote from: Atticus_Finch on August 12, 2015, 11:53:15 PM
Lee vs Saunders fight is postponed and is now taking place in Manchester October 10th.

Official line is that Lee has a virus, hearing that the real reason is to do with poor ticket sales for Thomond Park.  Bit of a shame for Andy Lee, always comes across as a decent fella.

That's a shame alright. It meant a lot to him to defend his title here. Maybe he's too nice to be a big draw or to make enough headlines. It pays to be obnoxious in boxing/UFC.

I'm surprised too at Saunders saying admitting that Golovkin would beat either of them. Probably true but it's not good marketing.