Boxing Thread

Started by bennydorano, November 04, 2007, 09:00:01 PM

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omaghjoe

Good fight. I was worried for Andy at the knockouts but he battled back well, Quillin is very dangerous. Very close fight and the draw was fair although if you had to pick a winner Quillin probably would have sneaked it for me based on the two knockdowns. However in saying that the 2nd knockout he was standing on Andy's foot.
A rematch is defo in order as neither would be sensible to go anywhere near Golovkin. Which isnt how it should be  I might add.

Golovkin should be made the mandatory challenger for belts at middle weight if any where worth their salt. Although it won't happen, but at least WBC did the honourable thing, not that Cotto is gonna honour it, wonder what excuse he will come up with for vacating the belt?

On a side note anyone see the Petersen Garcia fight on afterwards? I though Petersen won easy but lost on MD

TF15

Oul Frank Warren will be rubbing his mits after that fight. Lee v Billy Joe Saunders will be made in the summer now. It'll be a stadium fight (20-30k capacity, maybe Upton Park) too as they both have huge traveller support.

Lee is as brave a fighter as you'll ever see and he has a bazooka of a right hand which will give him a fighting chance in any fight. His footwork and boxing at range was at as high a level as I've seen from him also.

GGG beats both Quillan and Andy on the same night but there is some class domestic match ups ahead potentially. Lee v BJS, Lee v Eubank, BJS v Eubank II. Throw Matthew Macklin, Spike O'Sullivan, Eamonn O'Kane into the mix too (although for me a level below Lee/BJS/Eubank now for varying reasons age/ability) and its very tasty division. Also could add Martin Murray but he's talking about moving up to Super-Middle.

Petersen beat Garcia for me, but I'm not too sad about him getting a bad decision as he robbed Khan a couple of years back with a shocker of a hometown decision and is a known PEDs cheat. 

bridgegael

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The Iceman

we wery very lucky to have grown up in this era of boxing. 30 years ago today. Hard to beat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9j-WNOjPLFs
I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

muppet

Quote from: The Iceman on April 15, 2015, 08:38:44 PM
we wery very lucky to have grown up in this era of boxing. 30 years ago today. Hard to beat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9j-WNOjPLFs

There was more in that era of Middleweight boxing alone than in the entire history of other sports. Incredible stuff.
MWWSI 2017

nrico2006

'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

JoG2

Just watched the itv Carl Froch documentary. Definitely one of my favourite boxers. Not sure how his final fight or 2 will pan out, but he was  great to watch, always an action packed bruising battle.  A real battler, unbelievably tough. Ducked no one.

omaghjoe

Quote from: nrico2006 on April 16, 2015, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 14, 2015, 11:32:26 PM
Ricky has taken to many blows to the head!

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/14/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-amir-khan-superfight-ricky-hatton-world-title-las-vegas?CMP=share_btn_tw

*too

I decided to read that article for the craic because I actually think that Mayweather would suit Kahn, Mayweather hates the fast hands and doesn't have the knockout power that puts the fear of God up Kahn.

However when I got to this line...."Amir has never shied away from a challenge".....  I just shook my head andsaid "ah dear poor aul Ricky"

gallsman

Quote from: omaghjoe on April 17, 2015, 03:59:14 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 16, 2015, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 14, 2015, 11:32:26 PM
Ricky has taken to many blows to the head!

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/14/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-amir-khan-superfight-ricky-hatton-world-title-las-vegas?CMP=share_btn_tw

*too

I decided to read that article for the craic because I actually think that Mayweather would suit Kahn, Mayweather hates the fast hands and doesn't have the knockout power that puts the fear of God up Kahn.

However when I got to this line...."Amir has never shied away from a challenge".....  I just shook my head andsaid "ah dear poor aul Ricky"

Why would you disagree with that? Khan has spent the last while chasing a fight with Mayweather but I don't think you could accuse him of ducking anyone, not even Brook. Prescott and Garcia were two fights he didn't have to take and he did.

nrico2006

Quote from: gallsman on April 17, 2015, 07:14:25 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on April 17, 2015, 03:59:14 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 16, 2015, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 14, 2015, 11:32:26 PM
Ricky has taken to many blows to the head!

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/14/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-amir-khan-superfight-ricky-hatton-world-title-las-vegas?CMP=share_btn_tw

*too

I decided to read that article for the craic because I actually think that Mayweather would suit Kahn, Mayweather hates the fast hands and doesn't have the knockout power that puts the fear of God up Kahn.

However when I got to this line...."Amir has never shied away from a challenge".....  I just shook my head andsaid "ah dear poor aul Ricky"

Why would you disagree with that? Khan has spent the last while chasing a fight with Mayweather but I don't think you could accuse him of ducking anyone, not even Brook. Prescott and Garcia were two fights he didn't have to take and he did.

Of course he has ducked certain fights, why did he never try and avenge any of his defeats?  Why would he pick a man (just after being humiliated) instead of taking up the offer to have a huge fight in his home country for a world title?  Why fight Algieri instead of Thurman or Broner who both wanted to fight him?  Khan chasing Mayweather isn't proof of anything, Mayweather doesn't frighten the life out of opponents in the way that someone like GGG does? 
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

gallsman

Quote from: nrico2006 on April 17, 2015, 08:18:28 AM
Quote from: gallsman on April 17, 2015, 07:14:25 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on April 17, 2015, 03:59:14 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 16, 2015, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 14, 2015, 11:32:26 PM
Ricky has taken to many blows to the head!

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/14/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-amir-khan-superfight-ricky-hatton-world-title-las-vegas?CMP=share_btn_tw

*too

I decided to read that article for the craic because I actually think that Mayweather would suit Kahn, Mayweather hates the fast hands and doesn't have the knockout power that puts the fear of God up Kahn.

However when I got to this line...."Amir has never shied away from a challenge".....  I just shook my head andsaid "ah dear poor aul Ricky"

Why would you disagree with that? Khan has spent the last while chasing a fight with Mayweather but I don't think you could accuse him of ducking anyone, not even Brook. Prescott and Garcia were two fights he didn't have to take and he did.

Of course he has ducked certain fights, why did he never try and avenge any of his defeats?  Why would he pick a man (just after being humiliated) instead of taking up the offer to have a huge fight in his home country for a world title?  Why fight Algieri instead of Thurman or Broner who both wanted to fight him?  Khan chasing Mayweather isn't proof of anything, Mayweather doesn't frighten the life out of opponents in the way that someone like GGG does?

Do you think Khan cares one iota about whether or not people get to see him fight who they think he should? He's a prizefighter and chases money. Nothing else. That means Mayweather.

nrico2006

Quote from: gallsman on April 17, 2015, 09:47:18 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 17, 2015, 08:18:28 AM
Quote from: gallsman on April 17, 2015, 07:14:25 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on April 17, 2015, 03:59:14 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 16, 2015, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 14, 2015, 11:32:26 PM
Ricky has taken to many blows to the head!

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/14/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-amir-khan-superfight-ricky-hatton-world-title-las-vegas?CMP=share_btn_tw

*too

I decided to read that article for the craic because I actually think that Mayweather would suit Kahn, Mayweather hates the fast hands and doesn't have the knockout power that puts the fear of God up Kahn.

However when I got to this line...."Amir has never shied away from a challenge".....  I just shook my head andsaid "ah dear poor aul Ricky"

Why would you disagree with that? Khan has spent the last while chasing a fight with Mayweather but I don't think you could accuse him of ducking anyone, not even Brook. Prescott and Garcia were two fights he didn't have to take and he did.

Of course he has ducked certain fights, why did he never try and avenge any of his defeats?  Why would he pick a man (just after being humiliated) instead of taking up the offer to have a huge fight in his home country for a world title?  Why fight Algieri instead of Thurman or Broner who both wanted to fight him?  Khan chasing Mayweather isn't proof of anything, Mayweather doesn't frighten the life out of opponents in the way that someone like GGG does?

Do you think Khan cares one iota about whether or not people get to see him fight who they think he should? He's a prizefighter and chases money. Nothing else. That means Mayweather.

That's correct, hence why he has avoided the tougher fighters out there thus far in his career.  His opponents are usually low risk ones and ultimately he sees the Mayweather fights as his big pay day and I imagine doesn't want to fight Brook now incase he loses and will then be completely out of the running to face Mayweather. 
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

gallsman

#3583
As I said, I disagree with that entirely. Prescott, Maidana, Peterson (in DC, Peterson's hometown) and Garcia were all fights he could have ducked for one reason or another and dissent. Khan is a seriously tough bugger, often to his own detriment.

Brook's record doesn't have half the names on it that Khan's does. Unless there's an enormous payday in it for Khan (a la Froch-Grobes at Wembley), then I can understand why he doesn't have that much interest in the fight.

TF15

Khan should have fought Brook right now but I get the feeling he doesn't want to give Eddie Hearn the payday and have him dictate to him. Quite similar to Frampton. Plus if he loses it leaves him with nowhere to go. Broner fight couldn't be made as Broner wouldn't fight above 143, even though he mouthed off that it would be at 147. Khan would school Broner at 147. Bradley I can't see Khan ducking either as stylistically its a good fight for him, I think the biggest hindrance on his career is his religious beliefs which cause him to fast over the Ramadan period in late summer every year. Means he can't fight after May/early June to November as he has to replenish his body of the weight/strength he loses during the fasting period.

Brook v Gavin is a poor fight. Hearn is talking like Brandon Rios in the summer is a mega fight, he's won a world title at 135. Algieri is a disappointing fight also but at least he's won a title at 140, one weight class below the fighting weight.

This summer Eddie Hearn promised Khan v Brook, Frampton v Quigg and Groves v DeGale, we're getting none of them. Will anyone buy the PPV card at the 02 which Brook and Gavin are headlining? It's a good card but never a PPV. I'll not be buying. It sets a dangerous precedent for what is construed as PPV if Bellew v Cleverly and now this card are deemed PPV.

I'll be buying May 2nd though, can't wait!

Matthyse v Provodnikov this weekend should be a great fight.  Matthyse should win but if he get's dragged into a complete tear up I wouldn't bet against Provodnikov who would remind you of an Eastern European Rocky with his face first fighting style.