Boxing Thread

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gallsman

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 12:31:41 PM
Would be silly in the extreme to be looking at Rigondeaux, and at the age of 33 he'll probably be retired before Carl gets a fight at the others around the division. As for making the most money you can, it's a professional business, making money is what it's all about.

Was talking to Carl this morning, face is pretty swollen still and stitches above his eye, his back is sore also but he's in good spirits as you can imagine , said he's going for a scan on hand today. Civic reception tomorrow in Belfast but he'd rather have it all low key if truth be told.

Not sure about that. Late starter in the pro game and his style is unloved by the American networks so not making the kind of money his incredible skills deserve. One of the slickest on the planet. Donaire couldn't touch him in their fight.

Orior

As I drove up Duncairn Gardens last night the wee hoods from New Lodge and Tigers Bay were goading each other into a fight. I wasnt sure if this was as a results of the Frampton scrap, the Owc win, the Ireland win, or the hurling draw.
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take_yer_points

Quote from: Orior on September 08, 2014, 01:32:35 PM
As I drove up Duncairn Gardens last night the wee hoods from New Lodge and Tigers Bay were goading each other into a fight. I wasnt sure if this was as a results of the Frampton scrap, the Owc win, the Ireland win, or the hurling draw.

Or just a normal Sunday night

Milltown Row2

Quote from: gallsman on September 08, 2014, 01:19:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 12:31:41 PM
Would be silly in the extreme to be looking at Rigondeaux, and at the age of 33 he'll probably be retired before Carl gets a fight at the others around the division. As for making the most money you can, it's a professional business, making money is what it's all about.

Was talking to Carl this morning, face is pretty swollen still and stitches above his eye, his back is sore also but he's in good spirits as you can imagine , said he's going for a scan on hand today. Civic reception tomorrow in Belfast but he'd rather have it all low key if truth be told.

Not sure about that. Late starter in the pro game and his style is unloved by the American networks so not making the kind of money his incredible skills deserve. One of the slickest on the planet. Donaire couldn't touch him in their fight.

Well either way it would be career ending to take him on. Barry never came back after his title defeat in Vegas. To make a lot of money in boxing you have to choose your fights well and get out of it quickly before you end up taking too many hits.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

WT4E

Quote from: gallsman on September 08, 2014, 01:19:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 12:31:41 PM
Would be silly in the extreme to be looking at Rigondeaux, and at the age of 33 he'll probably be retired before Carl gets a fight at the others around the division. As for making the most money you can, it's a professional business, making money is what it's all about.

Was talking to Carl this morning, face is pretty swollen still and stitches above his eye, his back is sore also but he's in good spirits as you can imagine , said he's going for a scan on hand today. Civic reception tomorrow in Belfast but he'd rather have it all low key if truth be told.

Not sure about that. Late starter in the pro game and his style is unloved by the American networks so not making the kind of money his incredible skills deserve. One of the slickest on the planet. Donaire couldn't touch him in their fight.

Don't understand why they don't like his style - admittedly haven't watch a full fight of his but any highlights I have watched look brilliant. He would whoop Frampton!

Milltown Row2

Quote from: WT4E on September 08, 2014, 03:02:07 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 08, 2014, 01:19:22 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2014, 12:31:41 PM
Would be silly in the extreme to be looking at Rigondeaux, and at the age of 33 he'll probably be retired before Carl gets a fight at the others around the division. As for making the most money you can, it's a professional business, making money is what it's all about.

Was talking to Carl this morning, face is pretty swollen still and stitches above his eye, his back is sore also but he's in good spirits as you can imagine , said he's going for a scan on hand today. Civic reception tomorrow in Belfast but he'd rather have it all low key if truth be told.

Not sure about that. Late starter in the pro game and his style is unloved by the American networks so not making the kind of money his incredible skills deserve. One of the slickest on the planet. Donaire couldn't touch him in their fight.

Don't understand why they don't like his style - admittedly haven't watch a full fight of his but any highlights I have watched look brilliant. He would whoop Frampton!

Ok so they aren't in the business to come out and say he'd stuff me in a fight. That won't get you anywhere, so Barry will put a spin on it. Who in their right mind would want to fight him, box clever (shit pun) and get as many defences as you can make you money and get out. I think that's best and the safest option, no?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

nrico2006

Do a lot of fighters not also want to prove that they are the best?  I would hope that Frampton would want to make money but also push himself to the limit to see how far he could go.  No boxer is unbeatable and while Rigondeaux is unbelievably elusive and fast, he has been beat before and Frampton is getting better and possesses the skill set to possibly beat him.  No need to rush it though, take on the mandatory and fight Cruz and/or Quigg.  If he comes through all those tests he will be a better fighter for it and hopefully Rigondeaux will still be there.
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GJL

I see he has a suspected broken hand. This could put the fights on hold for a few months!

Club Rossa

I think Rigondeaux has been down 3 times in his pro career.That said,he is the top man in the division.I think Frampton will fight his mandatory then a big money spinner with Quigg.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: nrico2006 on September 08, 2014, 03:40:57 PM
Do a lot of fighters not also want to prove that they are the best?  I would hope that Frampton would want to make money but also push himself to the limit to see how far he could go.  No boxer is unbeatable and while Rigondeaux is unbelievably elusive and fast, he has been beat before and Frampton is getting better and possesses the skill set to possibly beat him.  No need to rush it though, take on the mandatory and fight Cruz and/or Quigg.  If he comes through all those tests he will be a better fighter for it and hopefully Rigondeaux will still be there.

Course you do, and becoming a world champion at one of those divisions is a start, but like I've said already, don't rush into this, fight the other guys first, I'd say 4 defences and financially (and no guarantee he'll win those) he'll be sorted before taking on the likes of Rigondeaux.

All about the TV rights/deals now, the 3 fight contract with Boxnation is over and time to look at a better deal elsewhere. I'd say Carl will box with a lot more confidence now with the title.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

gallsman

Quote from: nrico2006 on September 08, 2014, 03:40:57 PM
Do a lot of fighters not also want to prove that they are the best?  I would hope that Frampton would want to make money but also push himself to the limit to see how far he could go.  No boxer is unbeatable and while Rigondeaux is unbelievably elusive and fast, he has been beat before and Frampton is getting better and possesses the skill set to possibly beat him.  No need to rush it though, take on the mandatory and fight Cruz and/or Quigg.  If he comes through all those tests he will be a better fighter for it and hopefully Rigondeaux will still be there.

Everyone loses an amateur fight here and there, even the very best. Twice Olympic champion, unbeaten as a pro.

Rigo is also El Chacal - the Jackal, just like Carl. Potential slant to it. Don't see it happening any time soon.

blewuporstuffed

Big crowd at City hall there today for Frampton reception.
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either

The Iceman

Was at the Frampton fight and had a great evening/night (despite the cold temperatures). A couple of questions for any punters out there who went:

Why do most people wait until the last couple of fights to come in to the arena? Therefore missing all of the under-card and some cracking fights?

I was out at the portaloos a few times (serious queue's) and people were openly snorting drugs (likely coke) on two occasions even though there was a drone overhead - is this normal for belfast now (and I don't mean the drones)?
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: The Iceman on September 15, 2014, 05:57:07 PM
Was at the Frampton fight and had a great evening/night (despite the cold temperatures). A couple of questions for any punters out there who went:

Why do most people wait until the last couple of fights to come in to the arena? Therefore missing all of the under-card and some cracking fights?

I was out at the portaloos a few times (serious queue's) and people were openly snorting drugs (likely coke) on two occasions even though there was a drone overhead - is this normal for belfast now (and I don't mean the drones)?

As in most cities drugs are very common, but more so when you head to a boxing fight. I've always felt a little uneasy at any boxing bill I've been at, always simmering. Too many ex/wanna be boxers about coked/drunked out of their skulls looking for some action

Other than that it twas grand
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

screenexile

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2014, 07:28:04 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on September 15, 2014, 05:57:07 PM
Was at the Frampton fight and had a great evening/night (despite the cold temperatures). A couple of questions for any punters out there who went:

Why do most people wait until the last couple of fights to come in to the arena? Therefore missing all of the under-card and some cracking fights?

I was out at the portaloos a few times (serious queue's) and people were openly snorting drugs (likely coke) on two occasions even though there was a drone overhead - is this normal for belfast now (and I don't mean the drones)?

As in most cities drugs are very common, but more so when you head to a boxing fight. I've always felt a little uneasy at any boxing bill I've been at, always simmering. Too many ex/wanna be boxers about coked/drunked out of their skulls looking for some action

Other than that it twas grand

I've come across it in Belfast more often in the last couple of years I'd say as things start to pickup there's more money about to fire up your nose I guess. . .