Boxing Thread

[square_ball]

Of course it is. His social media has been centered on McGuigan since Monday night. The sc**bag doesn't even have a daughter. It's blatantly obvious that's what he is getting at.

I think he does have a daughter?

Ah fair enough he may have then. Seen on Twitter someone say he didn't have one.

[trailer]

Kieran Cunningham a good follow on twitter regarding this.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Fcuk me what a sc**bag

[Louther]

He on the defensive anyway as expected.

Posting screen shots of conversations with florists.

[toby47]

BJS knew exactly what he was at. Throwing rotten digs at McGuigan but being open ended enough that he could deny it was about him.

Had pictures up of a rat as well calling it Barry so I think it's fairly obvious what he was at with the daughter Instagram's.

As some of the comments above have said BJS never had any class. The video that went about of him a few years ago mocking the homeless person was disgusting not to mention his video a few months ago teaching men how to hit a woman just a couple of examples of this.

Hopefully Canelo knocks him senseless in a few months time.

[nrico2006]

The thing is, Saunders has a good chance of beating Canelo.  But if I were a betting man, I'd imagine Canelo would find a way to win.

What fighter was McGuigan referring to on that show, the one that left him?

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Was it not 5 or so that have left him?

[GetOverTheBar]

The thing is, Saunders has a good chance of beating Canelo.  But if I were a betting man, I'd imagine Canelo would find a way to win.

What fighter was McGuigan referring to on that show, the one that left him?

Conrad Cummings and Josh Taylor were two.

[square_ball]

It was a mutual split with the McGuigans according to Cummings statement at the time. Whether Barry was including him in one of the 5 poached by MTK I'm not sure. His career was going nowhere under Cyclone and in fact has got a lot worse since then. Not even sure if he still boxes. He wasn't going to make Cyclone money like Taylor or Frampton did so I'd say they didn't lose any sleep over that one.

[JimStynes]

Conrad Cummings should just give it up as a bad job. He was turning into a punchbag.

[nrico2006]

There have been a few that have left Cylcone and went to MTK, was looking to see if anybody knew who he was on about.  I think Marco McCullagh, Jamie Conlan, Lee McGregor, Cummings, Frampton and even your doll Cameron have all left.  Its hard to understand what each company does in boxing though, you have managers and promoters, and management and promotional organisations yet Cyclone was supposedly a promotional body only and what exactly is MTKs role - are they promoters or simply managers?  Take Fury for example, he doesnt seem to be promoted by MTK, he is handled by Queensberry and Top Rank.  So if you leave Cyclone for example, and go to MTK, are they your promoter or manager?

[Louther]

Seems to be an awful lot of layers in boxing mgt.

When DK seems to have found a niche is been a fixer. Often you'll have two camps tied down to different TV and PPV deals. They'll not box as neither can agree on terms. He'll come in the middle and negotiate with both sides to agree the deal and share of rights and keep both sides happy. He can present best to all sides without them seen to be losing face. It's a macho sport.

Also if MTK are putting on so many shows, they have more opportunities to place their fighters in the ring and give them pay days. Less hurdles to over come. They get promoters, venues, TV companies all onside and give them what they want.

For what is suppose to a simple sport which boils down to 2 men/women getting into the ring, it takes an awful lot to get to that point and why the big fights are nortorious slow to happen. AJ V Fury is far from sealed yet as its effectively Sky Box Office V BT Box Office over exclusive rights and how that is to be sorted out is anyone's guess. 

[GetOverTheBar]

MTK (Ex MGM) is a training facility first and foremost.....they have obviously then branched out to Management and Promotion.

I suppose every fighter under their banner as such will have different needs, the higher up you are the less likely you are to be 'fully controlled' by MTK....as you have your reputation already etc.

Fury is with MTK purely in an advisory role....your guess is as good as mine as to what that actually involves (whereas Carl Frampton started off something similar and is now fully managed by MTK). How payment works etc but that is maybe another thing altogether. I believe it came out in the Frampton v McGuigan case Frampton doesn't even pay MTK so this is where it starts to get very murky for that company. 

[Louther]

Yeah, what started as Macklins Gym in Marbella has expanded massively into a one stop shop for boxers. They have moved to us now and have a massive stable of fighters who will have different level of needs with them.

They getting so many fighters it's becoming a cartel. 

[GetOverTheBar]

Or the best way to wash your money, if you needed that sort of thing