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Syferus

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Quote from: JoG2 on December 15, 2014, 12:29:42 PM
yer man Golovkin, has he fought anyone of real worth yet? Plenty of knockouts but no big hitters listed. Is he the new William Wallace? 7 foot tall and all that
Quote from: DennistheMenace on December 18, 2014, 01:42:13 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 15, 2014, 12:29:42 PM
yer man Golovkin, has he fought anyone of real worth yet? Plenty of knockouts but no big hitters listed. Is he the new William Wallace? 7 foot tall and all that

Simply put, he's unbelievable and Lee as the others have said, should stay well away from him for the meantime.

To my eyes he's the best fighter on planet Earth right now. He can't get the big fights he deserves because everyone runs away from him at double-speed because they know they'll lose.

I think only Andre Ward could even hang with an on-form GGG. I don't even think Cotto would put up much resistance against GGG. Once in a generation talent.

oakleaflad

Quote from: Syferus on December 18, 2014, 01:55:46 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 15, 2014, 12:29:42 PM
yer man Golovkin, has he fought anyone of real worth yet? Plenty of knockouts but no big hitters listed. Is he the new William Wallace? 7 foot tall and all that
Quote from: DennistheMenace on December 18, 2014, 01:42:13 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 15, 2014, 12:29:42 PM
yer man Golovkin, has he fought anyone of real worth yet? Plenty of knockouts but no big hitters listed. Is he the new William Wallace? 7 foot tall and all that

Simply put, he's unbelievable and Lee as the others have said, should stay well away from him for the meantime.

To my eyes he's the best fighter on planet Earth right now. He can't get the big fights he deserves because everyone runs away from him at double-speed because they know they'll lose.

I think only Andre Ward could even hang with an on-form GGG. I don't even think Cotto would put up much resistance against GGG. Once in a generation talent.
Cotto wouldn't stand a chance against GGG. I genuinely think Lee would have a decent chance against Cotto, hes a much bigger man with a serious height/reach advantage and has that KO power. That won't happen anytime soon though with Alvarez-Cotto set for Cinco de mayo. I expect Alvarez to win that one too.
Lee should stay clear of GGG. Realistically he has a chance against an ageing Jermain Taylor and Cotto who own the other two major belts at Middleweight. If he gets past Saunders, and that's a big if, you couldn't blame him for taking a couple of easy defenses though.

nrico2006

Quote from: Syferus on December 18, 2014, 01:55:46 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 15, 2014, 12:29:42 PM
yer man Golovkin, has he fought anyone of real worth yet? Plenty of knockouts but no big hitters listed. Is he the new William Wallace? 7 foot tall and all that
Quote from: DennistheMenace on December 18, 2014, 01:42:13 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 15, 2014, 12:29:42 PM
yer man Golovkin, has he fought anyone of real worth yet? Plenty of knockouts but no big hitters listed. Is he the new William Wallace? 7 foot tall and all that

Simply put, he's unbelievable and Lee as the others have said, should stay well away from him for the meantime.

To my eyes he's the best fighter on planet Earth right now. He can't get the big fights he deserves because everyone runs away from him at double-speed because they know they'll lose.

I think only Andre Ward could even hang with an on-form GGG. I don't even think Cotto would put up much resistance against GGG. Once in a generation talent.

I'd agree, would love to see him spark Mayweather but that obviously won't happen.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

JoG2

Have read a couple articles on Golovkin and the boxing journalists reckon he hasnt been tested. What big names has he fought really? He looks some prospect though but I'm not buying the hype as much as most on here

Franko

Quote from: JoG2 on December 18, 2014, 04:15:13 PM
Have read a couple articles on Golovkin and the boxing journalists reckon he hasnt been tested. What big names has he fought really? He looks some prospect though but I'm not buying the hype as much as most on here

He probably hasn't been in fairness but the only reasons for this are a combination of poor management and the rest of the division refusing to fight him.

oakleaflad

Quote from: JoG2 on December 18, 2014, 04:15:13 PM
Have read a couple articles on Golovkin and the boxing journalists reckon he hasnt been tested. What big names has he fought really? He looks some prospect though but I'm not buying the hype as much as most on here
He has KO'd or TKO'd Daniel Geale, Marco Antonio Rubio, Matthew Macklin, Curtis Stevens, Gabriel Rosado. Not elite but very good boxers. There really isn't anyone at Middleweight left since Cotto beat Martinez, maybe Peter Quillan but i think he would KO him too. He's facing Martin Murray next and he is probably as good as what is left.

Donnellys Hollow

It's a long time ago now but Golovkin defeated Andy Lee easily in an amateur bout.
There's Seán Brady going in, what dya think Seán?

JoG2

Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on December 18, 2014, 04:57:02 PM
It's a long time ago now but Golovkin defeated Andy Lee easily in an amateur bout.

the definitive answer I was looking for :-)

oakleaflad

Quote from: JoG2 on December 18, 2014, 05:04:32 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on December 18, 2014, 04:57:02 PM
It's a long time ago now but Golovkin defeated Andy Lee easily in an amateur bout.

the definitive answer I was looking for :-)
He actually beat Andy Lee and Matt Korobov in the same tournament.
GGG's biggest fights are not in his weight class, move down to fight Mayweather or up to fight Ward. Mayweather won't happen so his best chance to prove he is the best would be to move up and beat Ward.

gallsman

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 18, 2014, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on December 18, 2014, 05:04:32 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on December 18, 2014, 04:57:02 PM
It's a long time ago now but Golovkin defeated Andy Lee easily in an amateur bout.

the definitive answer I was looking for :-)
He actually beat Andy Lee and Matt Korobov in the same tournament.
GGG's biggest fights are not in his weight class, move down to fight Mayweather or up to fight Ward. Mayweather won't happen so his best chance to prove he is the best would be to move up and beat Ward.

I think the Ward fight could actually happen if they tried to make it happen. GGG appears willing to fight anyone, anywhere. He's been adopted as one of their own over the last few years and given Ward's inactivity, either through the injury or legal dispute, he'll have a hard time winning back his fans. Would be fascinating as Ward would be by far the slickest fighter he's faced (assuming he hasn't lost anything) and it would be interesting to see how his power carries half a stone upwards. From the way he knocks people about the place, I reckon his power would handle the increased weight pretty easily.

nrico2006

Quillan was afraid to fight Korobov so never fighting GGG. Would love to see him fight Ward, Alvarez, Martinez, Froch or Ward.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Syferus

#3446
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:49:29 PM
Quillan was afraid to fight Korobov so never fighting GGG. Would love to see him fight Ward, Alvarez, Martinez, Froch or Ward.

In fairness Quillan would have faced Korobov if not for his manager, Al Haymon, a former music mogul who has a lot of bad blood with Jay-Z and Beyoncé - Jay-Z's Roc Nation won the bid for that particular world title fight and Quillan agreed to drop the belt rather than fight..

..yes, Andy has 99 problems but a world title ain't one.

gallsman

Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:49:29 PM
Quillan was afraid to fight Korobov so never fighting GGG. Would love to see him fight Ward, Alvarez, Martinez, Froch or Ward.

Martinez is done and would take a horrific beating from GGG. His power against the Froch chin would be interesting!

Syferus

Quote from: gallsman on December 19, 2014, 01:29:33 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:49:29 PM
Quillan was afraid to fight Korobov so never fighting GGG. Would love to see him fight Ward, Alvarez, Martinez, Froch or Ward.

Martinez is done and would take a horrific beating from GGG. His power against the Froch chin would be interesting!

Froch has heart but my God is he easy to hit. His technique is really poor on combinations and it regresses to flailing at points. GGG would have a field day.

gallsman

Quote from: Syferus on December 19, 2014, 03:01:50 AM
Quote from: gallsman on December 19, 2014, 01:29:33 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:49:29 PM
Quillan was afraid to fight Korobov so never fighting GGG. Would love to see him fight Ward, Alvarez, Martinez, Froch or Ward.

Martinez is done and would take a horrific beating from GGG. His power against the Froch chin would be interesting!

Froch has heart but my God is he easy to hit. His technique is really poor on combinations and it regresses to flailing at points. GGG would have a field day.

GGG's defence isn't tip top either and he takes plenty of shots - he just tends to walk through them. Froch "literally" has the heart of a lion and his chin is like granite. I think his skills are fading, but he has been criminally underrated his entire career. Not necessarily saying I think he'd win but I think it would be a bloody good fight. Additionally, Froch has never ducked anyone and if the fight could be made for decent money (which it surely could, either here or in the States), I think both fighters would jump at it, although GGG might want to hoover up a few more middleweight belts before a step up.