Official Cavan GAA Thread

Started by BallyhaiseMan, November 10, 2006, 01:47:12 PM

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cavan4ever

Quote from: LackenLegend on February 26, 2008, 05:04:30 PM
Oooh nasty!!  :o I just read the Bottom Line in the Cavan Voice there. They give Keogan an awful time of it. Maybe he deserves it, i don't know but controversial stuff all the same! Do ye think it is all the manager or do we just not have the players? I heard about a few bust ups between different players and the manager and between players after the Monaghan game. Hot heads or prima donnas?

Didn't see it myself but it's good to see some off our local papers can say things like they see it.  The way i see it and what i have been told the management (not just the manager) are alot to blame.  Only game plan is to kick ball into forward line.  One player from a Senior club told me that they have more game plans at club level.  All they seem to be told is to work hard.

cavanmaniac

Can you elaborate on that ttb? I always thought it was board-wide money saving thing that got Keogan in.

cavanmaniac

Ah right, thanks ttb. Out of a farce, a farce is born it seems. ::)

mylestheslasher

It is early days yet but it seems to me that this season is going to be a total disaster. If I were a betting man I'd say Keoghan will not be in charge next year. My big fear is that they go after someone like Stephen King (Cavan man, big name) who I can tell you from 1st hand experience would be exactly the same as Keoghan. The outside manager idea seems to have lost favour in Cavan but i don't see there being an inside man capable of the job. Meanwhile the McCabes and Fordes and those with some experience will drift into retirement leaving behind a team too young and raw to make an impact. I agree with Cavanmaniac in that this is getting very very depressing and I believe we are back in the 80's/early 90's in terms of expectations - especially when I read that county players are bemused by the lack of a game plan (something we all noted after the Monaghan game). Oh well, you never know we could go out and beat the dubs and all will be forgiven.

Homer

#2059
"It is early days yet but it seems to me that this season is going to be a total disaster. If I were a betting man I'd say Keoghan will not be in charge next year." NAP!

I see they've even started a petition on the Hoganstand http://FreeOnlineSurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=ndgd95eu3xd7iil400493  :o

(EDIT - I see its actually a survey)

mylestheslasher

Forgive my stupidity but what does "NAP!" mean?

Homer

Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 27, 2008, 03:34:35 PM
Forgive my stupidity but what does "NAP!" mean?

Ah its just racing jargon for a very good bet.

BallyhaiseMan

Just thinking, if you were looking for people within the county to coach the Cavan team, Not many names stick out

Mickie Graham in a year or two if he does well with the minors

Ciaran Brady possibely(heard hes good from some of my longford sources and got his team to the senior final last year)

Stephen King,Ronan Carolan,Damien Reily are big names in Cavan football,but none have been successful at club level.

Has to be an outside man next year.

There is no way Keoghan will be there next year,
we would have to go on a winning spree,for him to survive.
Beat Antrim and Armagh and avoid relegation,Beating Antrim is the only likely there and even that is debateable.

cavanmaniac

In a way I feel sorry for DK. Let's give him some credit, he went in there full of passion for the job and he has tried his utmost; some of his predecessors weren't so committed, that's for sure. But none of this can compensate for his total lack of suitability for the role and his inexperience. Anyone could see that before he went in, apart from, evidently, certain county board eejits with euro signs flashing in their eyes. I genuinely feel this season is going to end with us completely at rock bottom, unless the underage teams lift us somehow and who in their right mind would expect anything of a Cavan underage side? Even I've given up on them!

It's glum down here in the doldrums, I nearly can't be bothered with it anymore and if support starts to drift away (and I believe it has been doing) then Cavan are rightly screwed.

BHMan is right in that Mickey Graham looks to be the only Cavan man making any waves at any level in management but he has to prove himslef with the minors first and like I said above, many's the blossoming management career has been ruined by Cavan minor sides.

If we beat the Dubs this weekend, I'll paint my arse royal blue and sit in Dunnes window for a week.

CC1

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Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 27, 2008, 07:01:45 PM
Just thinking, if you were looking for people within the county to coach the Cavan team, Not many names stick out

Mickie Graham in a year or two if he does well with the minors

Ciaran Brady possibely(heard hes good from some of my longford sources and got his team to the senior final last year)

Stephen King,Ronan Carolan,Damien Reily are big names in Cavan football,but none have been successful at club level.

Has to be an outside man next year.

There is no way Keoghan will be there next year,
we would have to go on a winning spree,for him to survive.
Beat Antrim and Armagh and avoid relegation,Beating Antrim is the only likely there and even that is debateable.
How about Bernard Morris? Won Ulster IC with Ballinagh. Stephen King won the JFC with Killeshandra last year too.
"Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride."

Homer

Quote from: CC1 on February 28, 2008, 11:53:19 AM
How about Bernard Morris? Won Ulster IC with Ballinagh. Stephen King won the JFC with Killeshandra last year too.

Wouldn't recommend Morris, he's fairly limited when it comes to tactics and strategy. Grand at club level but wouldn't fair much better than Keoghan in inter county management.

BallyhaiseMan

Quote from: CC1 on February 28, 2008, 11:53:19 AM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on February 27, 2008, 07:01:45 PM
Just thinking, if you were looking for people within the county to coach the Cavan team, Not many names stick out

Mickie Graham in a year or two if he does well with the minors

Ciaran Brady possibely(heard hes good from some of my longford sources and got his team to the senior final last year)

Stephen King,Ronan Carolan,Damien Reily are big names in Cavan football,but none have been successful at club level.

Has to be an outside man next year.

There is no way Keoghan will be there next year,
we would have to go on a winning spree,for him to survive.
Beat Antrim and Armagh and avoid relegation,Beating Antrim is the only likely there and even that is debateable.
How about Bernard Morris? Won Ulster IC with Ballinagh. Stephen King won the JFC with Killeshandra last year too.

Definetely not for me CC,

it took Morris what 3 attempts to win an intermediate,even though they had the most talented panel each year.(slightly ahead of us Homer  :P )
Hes underacheived with Ballinagh,as they shouldnt have been in Intermediate football this year.
With a better man along the line they might have been in an all ireland final aswell.
Fingal Ravens were far better tactically on the day.

BallyhaiseMan

also good article from Paul Fitzpatrick,
im guessing him being from Redhills,

He was/is the Bottom Brick on here  ;)

BallyhaiseMan


From Hoganstand
McCabe plays in SF challenge
28 February 2008


Fermanagh senior footballers had a much needed outing on Saturday evening, 23rd of February in Kingspan/Breffni park, Cavan when they defeated the home side in a lively challenge game on a scoreline of 1-13 to 1-8.

The Fermanagh management were delighted with the match practice ahead of their NFL clash with Longford in Pearse Park, Longford next Sunday, 2nd of March. They started the first-half in determined fashion and were good value for their 0-12 to 1-3 lead at the interval. Cavan came more into the game in the second-half, and really put the visitors under some pressure, but never looked like catching a confident Fermanagh side in the end.

For the Cavan management ahead of this Saturday night's NFL Division 2 clash with Dublin there were a number of positives to take from the game. Dermot McCabe started the game along with Sean Brady, Michael Lyng and team-captain Mark McKeever and all four players will be the better for this outing.

Both managements made changes in personnel at the start of the second-half and this seemed to suit the home side. They came more into the game, and with the wind at their backs put the Erne sides defence under greater pressure. However, the Fermanagh side never lost their composure, and when Matthew Keenan scored an opportunist goal at the end of the third quarter, after a show by Mark Murphy was parried by the Cavan keeper they held out for a deserved five points win in the end.

This was a good work-out for both sides with key games this coming week-end against Dublin and Longford respectively. In defence for the Fermanagh side Damien Kelly and Shane McDermott were outstanding in defence. James Sherry and Marty McGrath were to the fore in the midfield sector, while up front Mark Little caused the Breffni defence some problems, while Liam McBarron at full-forward played the 'target-man' role very well.

Those who impressed for Cavan included Rory Dunne at full-back and in the half-back line, John Cunningham and John McCutcheon, while Anthony Forde looked sharp in attack which included Seanie Johnston, Dermot McCabe and Sean Brady.

Cavan - James Carolan (Lavey); Michael Hannon, Rory Dunne (Redhills), Michael Brides; Dermot Sheridan, John Cunningham, John McCutcheon; Raymond Galligan (Lacken), Mark McKeever; Martin Reilly, Micheal Lyng, Anthony Forde; Seanie Johnston, Dermot McCabe, Sean Brady (Castlerahan).

Fermanagh - Ronan Gallagher; Paul Johnston, Paddy Mohan, Niall Leonard; Damien Kelly, Shane McDermott, Raymond Johnston; James Sherry, Martin McGrath; Mark Murphy, Ciaran McElroy, Mark Little; Pat Cadden, Liam McBarron, Eamon Maguire.




shotstopper1

QuoteHes underacheived with Ballinagh,as they shouldnt have been in Intermediate football this year.

Senior League(beat both Gowna and Gaels on the way) ,Intermediate title(beaten finalists in 2006),an Ulster title and an u21,a junior title and probably more, and this is underachieving :o,

He may not be county manager material but surely you can't say he's underachieved with Ballinagh.
But then again ye're own managers overachieving keeping ye in Div 1 :P