Official Cavan GAA Thread

[Mr. Pain]

Has this Mr. Keogan guy seen a match in his life? That's some panel he has for the McKenna cup match. Crazy! Not enough big guys in there. Who is gonna deliver the Pain? Whatever big guy is in there is either at the end of his career with not much county experience or else bull**it. Gaynor will do. Bring back Morris and drag Trevor Crowe in. Break some bones. Our little weiners are no match for the Northerners come championship. Where is our little corner backs Terry Hyland and Joey Jordan? Terriers to the last. Should be given a shot. We need Pearson fully fit because he is our best hope in the forwards. McCabe fully fit is our No1 priority. Best player in Cavan this year. Some of the lads brought in wouldn't make it into a top Div1 team so why should they make the county team? Fitz, Doyle, M. Johnston etc. Thats my rant!

[Homer]

Can you post the panel Mr. Pain?

[Cavanfan]

That was some rant Mr. Pain, though I just have to say a few things.

Firstly, we're only in Jan and I'd say some of the panel might change. Sure can Gaynor play this weekend with his clubs upcoming match? I don't think any off the college boys will be playing either, so this leaves out Hannon, Flangan, Lyng, Sherdian to name but a few which is unfortunate. U say Pierson is the only guy for the forward line, I have no questions over his ability he is a great footballer, but is he committed to the job at hand. And if we get Jelly and Lyng fully fit this year it would be a good forward line. Lets give some of these boys a chance. I don't know what the story with Crowe is but he will be a loos if he doesn't come back into the panel. I don't really think you can judge how the season will go anyway on the McKenna Cup. Look at Micky Harte he's starting 7 debutants aswell. 

[Mr. Pain]

Can you post the panel Mr. Pain?

It's in the Celt. Don't be lazy.

Fair point Cavan Fan. Gaynor is named in the panel. I hope Pearson commits because he is a class act when he plays well, which is most of the time. Jelly hasn't got the bottle or isn't tough enough. Lyng needs to be fully, and i mean fully, fit if he is to be an addition. There is talk of pulling colleges out of the cup again so hopefully we wont have this problem again. I guarantee Mickey Harte's debutants are of great quality, three i think from senior championship winning team Drumore. Trevor Crowe is not interested. Johnny Crowe might be injured, also a loss. McKenna Cup is about preparing for the league. A development panel is what a lot of these lads should be on, not giving them false hope and temporary big heads. Rant over!

[Cavanfan]

Mr. Pain I totally agree with your idea of a developmental panel! 

[mylestheslasher]

What worries me most is that the team against Fermanagh - a development team, if you like - doesn't have one new forward on it. James Clarke being the only suprise and is unlikely to be much of a help later on. McKeever is not a ctr forward in my opinion, Jason is a impact sub for me, Forde is a becoming a liability (mounthing, fouling) + has lost something as he got older and didn't really get any wiser to compensate. Pierson does not appear to be committed. Eddie is mad. Where is Finbarr Reilly, we were all discussing him being recalled and no sign off him. Surely to god there are a couple of new forwards that could be tried out or were they all playing with the U21's?

[Homer]

Can you post the panel Mr. Pain?

It's in the Celt. Don't be lazy.

Wasn't being lazy I just didn't have access to a copy of the Celt til today.

Anyway for anybody else that might be in a similar situation, here is the McKenna Cup panel as per Celt

Micheal Brides (St. Oliver Plunketts)
James Carolan (Lavey)
Alan Clarke (Kingscourt)
James Clarke (Killenkere)
Mark Cunningham (Swanlinbar)
Micheal Cunningham (Swanlinbar)
Gavin Doyle (Arva)
Rory Donohoe (Belturbet)
Keith Fannin (Drumgoon)
Austin Fitzpatrick (Killeshandra)
Anthony Forde (Cavan Geals)
Anthony Gaynor (Ballinagh)
Declan Gaffney (Crosserlough)
Colm Hannon (Drumgoon)
Mark Johnston (Cornafean)
Niall Madden (Gowna)
Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge)
John McCabe (Munterconnaught)
Ryan McCormack (Kingscourt)
John McCutcheon (Cootehill)
Mark McKeever (Gowna)
James O'Reilly (Drung)
Finbar O'Reilly (Lacken)
Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran)
Padraic O'Reilly (Ballinagh)
Jason Reilly (Belturbet)
Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
Darren Rabbitte (Cavan Geals)
David Rooney (Bailieborough)


The article also mentions that Larry Reilly (must be back), Anthony Forde (even though he is named in the panel), Cathal Collins and Nicolas Walsh will continue to be part of the panel despite not taking part in this competition.

Sean Johnston, Michael Hannon, Mícheal Lyng and Ronan Flanagan would all be involved with college sides.

[BallyhaiseMan]

Can you post the panel Mr. Pain?

It's in the Celt. Don't be lazy.

Wasn't being lazy I just didn't have access to a copy of the Celt til today.

Anyway for anybody else that might be in a similar situation, here is the McKenna Cup panel as per Celt

Micheal Brides (St. Oliver Plunketts)
James Carolan (Lavey)
Alan Clarke (Kingscourt)
James Clarke (Killenkere)
Mark Cunningham (Swanlinbar)
Micheal Cunningham (Swanlinbar)
Gavin Doyle (Killeshandra)
Rory Donohoe (Belturbet)
Keith Fannin (Drumgoon)
Austin Fitzpatrick (Killeshandra)
Anthony Forde (Cavan Geals)
Anthony Gaynor (Ballinagh)
Declan Gaffney (Crosserlough)
Colm Hannon (Drumgoon)
Mark Johnston (Cornafean)
Niall Madden (Gowna)
Lorcan Mulvey (Butlersbridge)
John McCabe (Munterconnaught)
Ryan McCormack (Kingscourt)
John McCutcheon (Cootehill)
Mark McKeever (Gowna)
James O'Reilly (Drung)
Finbar O'Reilly (Lacken)
Eddie O'Reilly (Mullahoran)
Padraic O'Reilly (Ballinagh)
Jason Reilly (Belturbet)
Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
Darren Rabbitte (Cavan Geals)
David Rooney (Bailieborough)


The article also mentions that Larry Reilly (must be back), Anthony Forde (even though he is named in the panel), Cathal Collins and Nicolas Walsh will continue to be part of the panel despite not taking part in this competition.

Sean Johnston, Michael Hannon, Mícheal Lyng and Ronan Flanagan would all be involved with college sides.

we cant blame them for not experimenting anyway.
team id name tommorow out of that would be

1.James Carolan
2.Colm Hannon
3.Anthony Gaynor
4.Keith Fannin
5.Alan Clarke
6.Padraig Reily
7.David Rooney
8.Declan Gaffney
9.Lorcan Mulvey
10.Niall Madden
11.Rory Donohoe
12.Austin Fitzpartick
13.Ryan McCormack
14.Eddie Reily
15.John McCabe

In my opinion theres no point playing the likes of Forde,Jason Reily,Mark McKeever, Miller in the McKenna Cup, we should use the 3 games to experiment.

PS Homer i dont think  Arva Gavin Doyle would be too happy with you saying hes a leaguer   

[Homer]

PS Homer i dont think  Arva Gavin Doyle would be too happy with you saying hes a leaguer   

Ah sure they're all the same around that neck of the woods   

[BallyhaiseMan]

Cavan 0-15 Monaghan 1-09

Well lads good start to the season

Team was

1.James Carolan... Kickouts good,couldnt do anything for the goal. 7

2.Colm Hannon...good to see him back,didnt look very fit which is understandable,taken to the cleaners a few times,but will take him a while to get back to the speed of county football. 6

3.John Clarke... Good game but his lack of pace will be his undoing as the year progresses im afraid. 7

4.Keith Fannin... very good game, Monaghan brought his man out into the half forward line,Not the smartest thing to do as Fannin played a lot more football than him. 8

5.John McCutcheon..very good  for his first competitive game,Mobile,Gutsy and done all the simple things right... 7

6.Padraig Reily...Outstanding first at centre half,then when he went back to mark Freeman when he came on..Mark him down for the CHB position and forget about it for 10 years. 8

7.David Rooney...very quiet,didnt get into the game much really. 6

8.Declan Gaffney..some very good fielding,competed for everything,not very mobile or fit looking,id be interested if County Training could bring him on in that department,if so look out. 7

9.Mark McKeever....Although out of place at MF,McKeever for me was  MOM, went through a mountain of work,and his delivery into the forwards and ball carrying was
outstanding. 9

10.James Clarke...made a few dashing runs but other than that was quiet, 6

11.Rory Donohoe...made some bad decisions,and held onto the ball too long,but worked very hard and kicked the insurance point near the end.Will Improve. 7

12.Martin Reily...possibely the most naturally talented football player on the team,great workrate,and kicked 1/2 very good points from play and frees. 8

13.Jason Reily.....scored 4 points,didnt look fit like the majority of the team,but worked very very hard and always looked dangerous whenever he got to the ball. 8

14.Eddie Reily,missed some guilt edged frees and shots from on front of the posts,then proceeded to kick a few outrageous scores,Workrate was outstanding as always,Gives us that ball winning ability in the FF line. 7

15.Ryan McCormack....The most impressive newcomer, took over the free duties from Eddie and with the exception of one in the second half,kicked them over from all angles.Also kicked one fantastic one from play,Again good workrate and movement. 8.

Subs
Alan Clarke for Colm Hannon----Decent enough game,put himself about. 6

Barry Watters for David Rooney--very good going forward but suspect in defence.Migth be a better wing forward,looked impressive though for someone making their debut at Senior Inter County Level. 7

Nicholas Walsh for Eddie Reily----Good Targetman,set up the last 2 points for Donohoe and Jayo i think by knocking the ball down,Ruffled a few feathers in the Monaghan back-line when he came on,Pushing and shoving etc 

Conor Smith for Ryan McCormack--not on long enough to rate

Austin Fitzpatrick for ?? near the end

Good start,anyone going down to Belfast Wednesday Night(i wont be due to work) write a report.

[mylestheslasher]

Thanks for the report. I got called away at the last minute and couldn't attend. I am glad to see a coupld of new forwards in the teams doing well (as per my last post). It is always nice to get the better of Monaghan. Won't be able to make it wednesday with work but a win there will put us in the semis and give us another game which is good. Queens will be hard bet though.

[cavanmaniac]

Very greatful to you for the report BH man, that's alot more and better info than we'll get in any paper over the next week anyway. Ta very much.

I recall us playing some mighty stuff against Derry this time last year, Michael Cunningham getting MOM and disappearing afterwards. These January games come with a health warning as regards serious analysis but sure a win is a win and a win against Monaghan is twice as nice. And we're trying out a few lads as well, if three or four of them stick we'd have to be happy and hopefully we'll avoid relegation at the least this year.

[mylestheslasher]

From Indo...

Cavan victory ends Monaghan hopes
Cavan 0-15 Monaghan 1-9
Dr McKenna Cup
Monday January 07 2008


CAVAN'S first game of 2008 was marked by a victory over old rivals Monaghan at Kingspan Breffni Park. The result meant the elimination of Monaghan from the competition as this was their second defeat, but signalled progress for Cavan and team manager Donal Keogan.


More than 2,000 fans watched as managers Seamus McEnaney and Keogan chose to experiment, Monaghan starting just two regulars while Cavan included five.

Cavan gradually got on top and points from Rory Donohoe, Jason Reilly, Martin Reilly and Ryan McCormack put them 0-6 to 0-2 ahead by the 26th minute.

Five minutes before half-time a shot from Monaghan's Daniel McNally was deflected to the net by Owen Duffy and Cavan's lead was cut to one point. Cavan recovered and led at half-time, 0-9 to 1-2.

Two points from Daniel McNally reduced Cavan's advantage to two points but the home side responded with points from Eddie Reilly, Jason Reilly and two from Martin Reilly to lead by six points with 15 minutes left.

Although Monaghan made a big effort in the closing stages, Cavan always looked as if they had something in reserve and a three-point win was thoroughly deserved.

A satisfied Keogan said: "Any time you beat Monaghan it is a good day. We have been training hard over the winter months and have been doing some early Sunday morning stints at 8 o'clock. We have done six or seven of these sessions."

Scorers -- Cavan: J Reilly 0-4, M Reilly and R McCormack 0-3 each, R Donohoe and E Reilly 0-2 each, M McKeever 0-1. Monaghan: O Duffy 1-1, T Freeman 0-3, D McNally 0-2, L McAdam, C McManus and G McQuaid 0-1 each.

Cavan: J Carolan, C Hannon, John Clark, K Fannin, J McCutcheon, P O'Reilly, D Rooney, D Gaffney, M McKeever, James Clark, R Donohoe, M Reilly, R McCormack, E Reilly, J Reilly. Subs: M Lyng for D Rooney 43, A Clark for C Hannon 44, N Walsh for E Reilly 59, C Smith for R McCormack 68, A Fitzpatrick for J Clark 70.

Monaghan: P McBennett, C Flanaghan, C Hughes, M Duffy, G McEneaney, S Mulligan, S Fitzpatrick, J Kingham, M Daly, M McIlroy, L McAdam, C McManus, O Duffy, D Mone, D McNally. Subs: J P Mone for J Kingham 24, G McQuaid for S Fitzpatrick and R Woods for M Duffy half-time, T Freeman for M McIlroy 45, D McArdle for D McNally 49.

[cavan4ever]

Was very suprised to see Barry Watters coming on yesterday our management still haven't learned their lesson on how to treat the young players, but id say he was only there beacuse of injuries and the other lads with college teams.

[Homer]

Great report there HaiseMan. A few of my own comments to add

1. James Carolan - maybe could of been nearer the post for the goal but would still have been difficult to stop.

2. Colm Hannon - looked fairly skeptic to me but thankfully this went unnoticed to Monaghan who failed to target his man enough. As BallyhaiseMan said looked rather unfit.

3. John Clarke - had a decent debut at full-back but I did notice that every time a ball came into his man he would fly in, in an effort to break the ball away and end up on his arse. This tactic worked ok yesterday as he did achieve in either breaking the ball or pushing his man out but I can only imagine what the likes of Benny Coulter would do to him in the same situation. Loves to hit a shoulder though.

4. Keith Fannin - as BHM mentioned played well especially when he followed his man out the field.

5. John McCutcheon - see BHM comments

6. Podge - looked solid at CHB and done well to snuff out Freeman when he came on but I'd like to see him drive forward more. However I'm sure the game will give him confidence and he will soon bring this more into his game.

7. David Rooney - looked out of his depth and will need a lot more football at that standard if he is to adapt.

8. Mark McKeever - was outstanding yesterday. Fielding, breaking, passing, running, tackling, he really looked a class apart. Having said that I would still have strong reservations about him playing midfield come the ulster championship but I'd imagine the position is temporary.

9. Declan Gaffney - looked another decent prospect. Doesn't seem to get very airborn when fielding but his height and reach seemed to make up for that yesterday. Will need to impose himself more on the game other than the fielding aspect.

10. James Clarke - hasn't relinquished his lightening pace but unfortunatley, nor his abilty to just run blindly with the ball. Seemed to be struggling fitness wise towards the end.

11. Rory Donohoe - just doesn't seem to have a forward's head on his shoulders. Made too many poor decisions.

12. Martin Reilly - good game, always lively and kicked some nice scores with one monster free from 50 yards.

13. Jason Reilly - see BHM comments

14. Eddie Reilly - tried hard and always made himself available but it rarely came off for him. Kicked a great point but scourned some desperate frees early.

15. Ryan McCormack - started very quietly but came into the game after he converted he resumed free taking duties from Eddie. Should take confidence from the game and hopefully progress.

Subs

Alan Clarke - needs to play the ball more, tried to give everyone a shoulder, not that any of them where effective.

Barry Watters - Very slick player and as BHM says done well going forward. However he is to light for this grade (or at least defence at this grade) and this was evident when his man easily rounded him for a late point.

Nicolas Walsh - see Alan Clarke (replace shoulder with punch)

Conor Smith - Seems to have put on a lot of weight, looked sluggish.

All in all an encouraging performance from an experimental Cavan side.

AOB

Podge and Gaynor are now unavailable to the county until finished with Ballinagh now.

Finbar Reilly picked up an injury during the week and thus was not togged out.

Dermot Sheridan was also due to tog out but altough uninjured he was rested after his car skidded into a ditch that morning.

Won't be making it to Belfast myself either