Official Cavan GAA Thread

[Itchy]

Is Mooney in the U21 plans this year as there has been no sign of him yet? How fit can he be if he is not training due to injury?

[rodney trotter]

Is Mooney in the U21 plans this year as there has been no sign of him yet? How fit can he be if he is not training due to injury?

Hard to know how fit he can be, Oisn Moynagh didn't play any football at all last year with Redhills through injury and is now back on the Cavan panel.

I'd say Mooney is in the plans alright, but just easing him back. Still 2 months till the Championship game against Monaghan.

[s__words]

Posted by: rodney trotter
« on: January 18, 2013, 11:41:07 PM » Insert Quote

Quote from: s__words on January 18, 2013, 11:34:07 PM
Don't forget that there were a few other lads at the time who also 'weren't wanted' but are now on the county panel.One actually played against SJ last summer, think this tells you all you need to know about SJ's reasons for leaving.

Sheridan,Mackey,Lyng,Nesty,Cahill and Johnston were the 6 dropped by Andrews, Johnston wouldn't have played against any of them last summer. As none were on the panel.


I think you'll find it was widely reported at the time that James Reilly was one of the original six who were dropped and not Cahill.I'm only going on what was reported as I don't have any inside knowledge of what went on at the time or who was actually dropped or what they were told.

[rodney trotter]

Posted by: rodney trotter
« on: January 18, 2013, 11:41:07 PM » Insert Quote

Quote from: s__words on January 18, 2013, 11:34:07 PM
Don't forget that there were a few other lads at the time who also 'weren't wanted' but are now on the county panel.One actually played against SJ last summer, think this tells you all you need to know about SJ's reasons for leaving.

Sheridan,Mackey,Lyng,Nesty,Cahill and Johnston were the 6 dropped by Andrews, Johnston wouldn't have played against any of them last summer. As none were on the panel.


I think you'll find it was widely reported at the time that James Reilly was one of the original six who were dropped and not Cahill.I'm only going on what was reported as I don't have any inside knowledge of what went on at the time or who was actually dropped or what they were told.

Well that just isn't true. James Reilly played in the  National League last year against Wexford. He hadn't been part of the panel until then because of work commitments. Keith Fannin had been Keeper in the McKenna Cup.

Those were the 6 players dropped, I will show you a few newspaper articles as evidence.

[rodney trotter]

http://hoganstand.com/Cavan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=157687

I think that's where all the talk of James Reilly being dropped started, which was obviously a mix up as it was clearly Martin Cahill who had been dropped.

Johnston, Cahill, Sheridan,Lyng,Mackey and Nesty were the 6 players dropped and didn't play any football with Cavan in 2012.

[rodney trotter]

Hopefully this clears it.

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=james%20reill%20back%20on%20cavan%20panel&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&ved=0CFIQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fedit.setanta.com%2Fafrica%2FArticles%2F2012%2F02%2F01%2FReilly-back-in-Cavan-fold%2Fgnid-128892%2F&ei=s6P9UPaVEIephAfKxYCoAQ&usg=AFQjCNHmyCATa3EtcoLYqKcaFqhQjPO6CA

[s__words]

OK Rodney,but that link does not say he wasn't dropped. Setanta.com also posted the following
http://edit.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/11/09/Andrews-culls-Cavan-squad/gnid-116982/

GAA website also posted after Andrews was shoved that James was as one of the lads he dropped

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1204121632-andrews-steps-down-as-cavan-boss/1/

The fact is as there's doubt whether Miller was dropped or not, then can we really assume that the others were also dropped . Have you spoken to all players involved and the management? because if not we're therefore relying on third hand information and everyone knows how stories grow legs and lose truth as it transfers from one person to the next.
So was Miller dropped at the time or was he not?

[rodney trotter]

OK Rodney,but that link does not say he wasn't dropped. Setanta.com also posted the following
http://edit.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/11/09/Andrews-culls-Cavan-squad/gnid-116982/

GAA website also posted after Andrews was shoved that James was as one of the lads he dropped

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1204121632-andrews-steps-down-as-cavan-boss/1/

The fact is as there's doubt whether Miller was dropped or not, then can we really assume that the others were also dropped . Have you spoken to all players involved and the management? because if not we're therefore relying on third hand information and everyone knows how stories grow legs and lose truth as it transfers from one person to the next.
So was Miller dropped at the time or was he not?

Why can you not just let it go... James Reilly left the Cavan panel before because of work bef Commitments before under Tommy Carr. He is a builder and work comes first. He was working in Dublin that time under Andrews and was able to make the commute  down for training 4/5 nights a week , for the few weeks in Januray

What do you think yourself, is it not obvious . Why would he drop him and call him back for the first game in the League, Wise Up.

The others who were actually dropped were never called under Val Andrews. and didn't play for Cavan in 2012.

[rodney trotter]

OK Rodney,but that link does not say he wasn't dropped. Setanta.com also posted the following
http://edit.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/11/09/Andrews-culls-Cavan-squad/gnid-116982/

GAA website also posted after Andrews was shoved that James was as one of the lads he dropped

http://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/2/1204121632-andrews-steps-down-as-cavan-boss/1/

The fact is as there's doubt whether Miller was dropped or not, then can we really assume that the others were also dropped . Have you spoken to all players involved and the management? because if not we're therefore relying on third hand information and everyone knows how stories grow legs and lose truth as it transfers from one person to the next.
So was Miller dropped at the time or was he not?

Why can you not just let it go... James Reilly left the Cavan panel before because of work bef Commitments before under Tommy Carr. He is a builder and work comes first. He was working in Dublin that time under Andrews and was NOT able to make the commute  down for training 4/5 nights a week , for the few weeks in Januray

What do you think yourself, is it not obvious . Why would he drop him and call him back for the first game in the League, Wise Up.

The others who were actually dropped were never called under Val Andrews. and didn't play for Cavan in 2012.

[Itchy]

Well there is a point there that s_words has.

Firstly, the whole panel was disbanded and then a new panel was called in of which 6 were not on it from the previous panel. You might say the 6 were dropped or maybe you might say they didn't make the panel for some reason.

6 lads did not make the panel (leaving Miller aside). There is nothing to suggest they were all left off for the same reason. I know for a fact one of them was left of as he wouldn't have been able to commit to it at the correct level - Hyland then asked this guy to come back and he couldn't come back for the same reasons he was left off. I was told another of them was left off to get over recurring injuries. The other 4 I don't know but I assume there were reasons and that Andrews didn't decide to cut off his nose to spite his face. I also don't accept at all that there was no way back for these players either. Andrews was not likely to last either so anyone who upped and left did so for other reasons as I have said before as a new manager would have a different view on things

Anyway - its ancient history

[rodney trotter]

Well there is a point there that s_words has.

Firstly, the whole panel was disbanded and then a new panel was called in of which 6 were not on it from the previous panel. You might say the 6 were dropped or maybe you might say they didn't make the panel for some reason.

6 lads did not make the panel (leaving Miller aside). There is nothing to suggest they were all left off for the same reason. I know for a fact one of them was left of as he wouldn't have been able to commit to it at the correct level - Hyland then asked this guy to come back and he couldn't come back for the same reasons he was left off. I was told another of them was left off to get over recurring injuries. The other 4 I don't know but I assume there were reasons and that Andrews didn't decide to cut off his nose to spite his face. I also don't accept at all that there was no way back for these players either. Andrews was not likely to last either so anyone who upped and left did so for other reasons as I have said before as a new manager would have a different view on things

Anyway - its ancient history

Yeah why do you keep going about it then Itchy, You said I shouldn't have put the topic from the Indo on here and then you are asking why was he not on the Cavan Panel this year?. Get a grip. Just say nothing if you don't like Johnston instead of saying stuff and then contradacting yourself.

The players were dropped get over it. James Reilly wasn't.

Ps. are you actually s_swords because you sound very much like him.

[tommysmith]

Cant understand why you guys are even talking about him   

[rodney trotter]

And the guy Terry Hyland asked back was in May, nothing to do with Val Andrews as he was longer Cavan manager....

[Itchy]

Whats with the aggressive reply Rodney? First up I am not the same person as s_word. When I asked why Johnson was not playing with Cavan this year it was a rhetorical question, the  point being he doesn't want to play with Cavan anyway and that is his right. I don't dislike Johnson, I don't know him, I never met him and I certainly don't care who he plays for. But in my opinion he left Cavan to find success elsewhere and it had very little to do with being dropped/left of the panel. Thats just my opinion based on the evidence I see - you dont have to agree with me.

You can't drop players from a panel that doesn't exist, I'm being pedantic but it is still a valid point. I tried to explain to you that some of the 6 players were not selected due to injury and inability to commit - not because they were a bad influence or any smear on their character. I know the guy in May was asked in by Hyland and thats my point, he couldnt commit to Cavan then either - hence why he wasn't selected in the first place.

I'm not sure why you are getting so worked up about this. If it helps I'm not going to mention it again as its water under the bridge and I'm looking forward to an improved season with the seniors hopefully

[rodney trotter]

Well the replies sound quite a like between yourself aka word for word bewteen you and swords.

There was enough stuff said about Johnston, he is an amatuer player without making up lies etc about players been brought into the panel and playing against him. And you were the one getting worked up in the First place when i post the article from the Independent, so thats a bit hypocriteal.

But water under the bridge.
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