Official Cavan GAA Thread

[tommysmith]

Minor Championship 2012

Division 1

O'Raghallaigh Gaels - Kingscourt / Shercock
North Eastern Gaels - Kill / Drung / Laragh
Oliver Plunkets - Cavan Gaels / Killygarry
Lavey / Castlerahan
St. Joseph's - Killeshandra / Arva
Templeport
West Cavan Gaels - Kildallon / Corlough / Shannon Gaels / Swanlinbar

Templeport the only team trying it on their on their own, fair play to them.

[Celt_Man]

Minor Championship 2012

Division 1

O'Raghallaigh Gaels - Kingscourt / Shercock
North Eastern Gaels - Kill / Drung / Laragh
Oliver Plunkets - Cavan Gaels / Killygarry
Lavey / Castlerahan
St. Joseph's - Killeshandra / Arva
Templeport
West Cavan Gaels - Kildallon / Corlough / Shannon Gaels / Swanlinbar

Templeport the only team trying it on their on their own, fair play to them.

Yea and only Denn, Crosserlough, Ballymachugh, Ramor, Drumlane and Mullahoran (the latter 2 are Division 3 League teams too) in Division 2

So only 7 clubs are going it on their own for the Championship....  Whatever way you look at it or feel about amalgamations that's a lot of Minors footballers who aren't going to be getting Championship football

[TheThirdManning]

The Gaels are amalgamating??? 

[tommysmith]

And another question, if an amalgamated team wins, which is very likely, would thy be allowed to represent Cavan in the Ulster minor club. I wouldn't have thought so

Whoever wins it will go into Ulster Club.

[Celt_Man]

And another question, if an amalgamated team wins, which is very likely, would thy be allowed to represent Cavan in the Ulster minor club. I wouldn't have thought so

Whoever wins it will go into Ulster Club.

Correct it is essentially a Tournament so they can... O'Raghallaigh Gaels played in it last season

[drici]

Quarter Final:
November 26th (Saturday)
O Raghallaigh Gaels(Cavan) 0-13  Erne Gaels(Fermanagh) 0-04
1-30pm

Quarter Final:
November 27th (Sunday)
Armagh Harps 3-09  Kilcoo Owen Roes(Down) 2-06
2-30pm

Preliminary Round:
3rd December (Saturday)
Truagh Gaels(Monaghan) 0-03  Glen Watty Grahams(Derry) 4-14
1-30pm

Quarter Final:
4th December (Sunday)
St Johns(Antrim) 1-09  Killyman-Edendork(Tyrone) 0-08
1-30pm

Quarter Final:
11th December (Sunday)
Glen Watty Grahams(Derry) 0-09 Naomh Adhamhnáin(Donegal) 0-04
1-30pm


Semi Finals:
18th December (Sunday)
Armagh Harps 1-07 St Johns(Antrim) 1-05
1-30pm

26th December (Monday)
O Raghallaigh Gaels(Cavan) 1-04 Glen Watty Grahams(Derry) 2-11
1-30pm


Final:
1st January (Sunday)
Armagh Harps 0-05 Glen Watty Grahams(Derry) 4-12
1-30pm

[Westside]

Templeport are trying this on their own with a view to making a proper stab at it next year I would assume. The Minor side walked Division 2 this year and are all Minor next year bar 1 player I think. They know their Senior team needs an injection of a lot of player asap so they don't want to lose any lads due to not getting game time in an amalgamated side.
That said they are a very small squad, they will have at least 4 players on the team, Kellegher, Raythorne, Devine, McAweeney who all are U15/U16 this year and they are likely to come up short against what look like extremely strong groups of teams.

Who is pushing these amalgamations? Surely none of the clubs are stuck for numbers to that extent? Anyone know if this is a CB initiative or is it clubs getting greedy for silverware? As said above, a lot of young lads are going to miss out on Championship football which doesn't seem like the right way to go.

That Cavan Gaels/Castlerahan/Killigary/Lavey amalgamation seems insane given the complete domination by The Gaels of Minor Championships in recent years.

[Celt_Man]

Templeport are trying this on their own with a view to making a proper stab at it next year I would assume. The Minor side walked Division 2 this year and are all Minor next year bar 1 player I think. They know their Senior team needs an injection of a lot of player asap so they don't want to lose any lads due to not getting game time in an amalgamated side.
That said they are a very small squad, they will have at least 4 players on the team, Kellegher, Raythorne, Devine, McAweeney who all are U15/U16 this year and they are likely to come up short against what look like extremely strong groups of teams.

Who is pushing these amalgamations? Surely none of the clubs are stuck for numbers to that extent? Anyone know if this is a CB initiative or is it clubs getting greedy for silverware? As said above, a lot of young lads are going to miss out on Championship football which doesn't seem like the right way to go.

That Cavan Gaels/Castlerahan/Killigary/Lavey amalgamation seems insane given the complete domination by The Gaels of Minor Championships in recent years.

Cavan Gael and Killygarry is a separate team to Lavey and Castlerahan... It is insane the whole amount of them...

Having no Division 3 Championship after having a Div 3 League is a complete joke

[Westside]

Apologies I read that wrong, still for the Gaels to be amalgamating at all given that they have won, what, 8 out of the last 10 titles? Seems like madness.

I would love to see Templeport drawing West Cavan Gaels though. Some lovely footballers on both sides and the rivalry and situation in general would make it something fairly unique!

[rodney trotter]

It's a credit to a club like Templeport that they are going alone for the minor championship while the lots of the teams are made from amalgamations. They are a Junior club, while senior clubs like Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt amalgamate with other teams. Templeport should get out of Junior football soon enough, they are very good underage.

[tommysmith]

Who is pushing these amalgamations? Surely none of the clubs are stuck for numbers to that extent? Anyone know if this is a CB initiative or is it clubs getting greedy for silverware? As said above, a lot of young lads are going to miss out on Championship football which doesn't seem like the right way to go.

Greed for silverware i think and the CB cant be seen to be trying to stop it when you look at what they are going to be doing next year for the Senior Championship.

There should be 3 divisons and let them be graded on how they did in the league.

Like what addition is it to a club like cavan gaels who have dominated alot of the division 1 leagues and championships over the last 20 years to win a championship with Killygarry.  Is has got way out of hand.

[rodney trotter]

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Who is pushing these amalgamations? Surely none of the clubs are stuck for numbers to that extent? Anyone know if this is a CB initiative or is it clubs getting greedy for silverware? As said above, a lot of young lads are going to miss out on Championship football which doesn't seem like the right way to go.

Greed for silverware i think and the CB cant be seen to be trying to stop it when you look at what they are going to be doing next year for the Senior Championship.

There should be 3 divisons and let them be graded on how they did in the league.

Like what addition is it to a club like cavan gaels who have dominated alot of the division 1 leagues and championships over the last 20 years to win a championship with Killygarry.  Is has got way out of hand.

In fairness the Senior Championship next year should be of a good quality. The Gaels wont walk it like usual, The reason they decided to do it was to improve the quality of football and not have one sided games that happen sometimes in the Senior Championship. Whoever wins the Senior Championship next year will have earned it, the Gaels were lucky to get out of their group last year. I think they would be punished if they played like that next year.

[tommysmith]

Yeah but the point i was making was the CB cant be seen to be stoping teams joining up when they will be making teams join up next year.

It will be interesting to see how it will go next year

Divsion 2 will have 20 teams so 19 games each.

Intermediate championship 20 teams and has to be finished by may/june, i would not like to be on fixtute commitee next year.

[rodney trotter]

Yeah but the point i was making was the CB cant be seen to be stoping teams joining up when they will be making teams join up next year.

It will be interesting to see how it will go next year

Divsion 2 will have 20 teams so 19 games each.

Intermediate championship 20 teams and has to be finished by may/june, i would not like to be on fixtute commitee next year.

Division 2 into two sections next year. Division A and B, each division would have 10 teams, 9x2 so 18 games. Still alot of games, probaly a feburary start again next year

[Westside]

It's a credit to a club like Templeport that they are going alone for the minor championship while the lots of the teams are made from amalgamations. They are a Junior club, while senior clubs like Cavan Gaels and Kingscourt amalgamate with other teams. Templeport should get out of Junior football soon enough, they are very good underage.

Some excellent underage in TP at the minute, I expect them to have perhaps 4 players on the Minor Panel next year and one or two every year after for the next 3 years at least. For a club hit so hard by emigration that haven't have a county player even at Minor Level since probably Shane Maguire back in the mid 90s it's a big deal. That said, like our county side it could be a false dawn, there are very few players there to bring these young lads on and already the signs of them going down the route of their predecessors and interest swaying towards drinking sessions instead of training ones.

The county board are pushing Senior Amalgamations but at least the lads not making the sides can still line out in the intermediate Championship. A fringe player from the Gaels for example losing out to a Killigarry man no longer gets Championship football at all? Doesn't seem quite right.
The O'Raighallaigh Gaels scenario was arguably an incorrect move by the county board but two wrongs don't make a right and for such a proud club setting such high standards I certainly didn't think the Gaels would wave the white flag in the battle against amalgamations so soon and go glory hunting themselves.