Official Cavan GAA Thread

tierworker blue · December 17, 2011, 12:01:50 AM

Terrible news. RIP Paddy.

CC1 · December 17, 2011, 10:42:26 AM

Awful news, I work with one of his best friends and you could tell that he was a great character and loved amongst those who knew him. Great footballer as well, remember playing against him once where he came on and changed the game for Bailieboro. Another sad loss of a young mans life down this end of the country.

RIP Paddy.

Denn Forever · December 22, 2011, 09:35:04 PM

Back to unimportant things in the grand scheme of life.

Didn't know Walsh had emigrated.

Have a good break and don't drink or eat too much.

Walsh backs Johnston switch
22 December 2011

Seanie Johnston of CavanFormer Cavan midfielder Nicholas Walsh believes Seanie Johnston is well within his rights to leave for another county after he was deemed surplus to requirements by Breffni County boss Val Andrews.

The gifted Cavan Gaels attacker, who will spend Christmas and the early part of the New Year in Australia, has been linked with a move to Kildare, and his former club and county team-mate Walsh says he would understand if the player decided to turn his back on Cavan and line out for another county in 2012.

Former AFL recruit Walsh, who is a strength and conditioning coach with new Aussie Rules franchise Greater Western Sydney, said in the Irish News: "I know the way that it was left in terms of him and Val Andrews and Cavan, he was very disappointed.

"Seanie's only 26-27 years of age and probably one of the top footballers in Ulster and I think he's being denied the opportunity to play at the level he wants to.

"He hasn't made a decision and obviously with work commitments and that it just depends, but if he got the right job opportunity and the opportunity to move to another county, then I'd be wishing him the best of luck.

"Seanie's a great footballer and he needs to be playing football at the top level and if Cavan can't provide that and he's not getting the opportunity under the current management, then I'd have no qualms with him going and playing with another county."

mylestheslasher · December 22, 2011, 09:41:26 PM

How does a story like this get to "print". It's not like journalist bumped into Walsh given that he is in Australia. To me it reads like some gaels buddies painting the "doomsday" scenario that Johnston will walk if Andrews doesn't change his mind. Im looking forward to see can the new team gel better without him, especially in the forwards. I suspect they will.

Denn Forever · December 23, 2011, 11:29:42 AM

I should have indicated that I took it from HS.

SJ should be relishing his time off. I'd say he'll be back for the Championship and that hopefully other players may have cemented their place in the team so that SJ has to fight for his place.

boojangles · December 23, 2011, 11:50:24 AM

What are the opinions on the dramatic new changes being introduced to club football in the county?
I would like to see a full run down of all the changes but I am led to believe that this years Division One league will decide the future make up of the Senior Championship. Basically the top nine teams in the 2012 league will compete at Senior Championship level on their own. The remaining seven? clubs will be relegated to Intermediate but will all have to join with other Junior or Intermediate clubs to compete in the Senior Championship. The Intermediate and Junior Championships will be run earlier in the year.
I am fully behind the attempts to get a stronger Senior Championship and give everybody a chance to play at Senior level. However I feel that the means by which they will be grading clubs is wrong. Clubs will be judged on their league form this year instead of championship. The Championship is where a club will show its true potential (if at all) IMO.
I would agree with the end result but I'm just not sure that the methods to get there are correct.
Anybody able to shed some further light on the changes?

mylestheslasher · December 23, 2011, 01:20:43 PM

Quote from: boojangles on December 23, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
What are the opinions on the dramatic new changes being introduced to club football in the county?
I would like to see a full run down of all the changes but I am led to believe that this years Division One league will decide the future make up of the Senior Championship. Basically the top nine teams in the 2012 league will compete at Senior Championship level on their own. The remaining seven? clubs will be relegated to Intermediate but will all have to join with other Junior or Intermediate clubs to compete in the Senior Championship. The Intermediate and Junior Championships will be run earlier in the year.
I am fully behind the attempts to get a stronger Senior Championship and give everybody a chance to play at Senior level. However I feel that the means by which they will be grading clubs is wrong. Clubs will be judged on their league form this year instead of championship. The Championship is where a club will show its true potential (if at all) IMO.
I would agree with the end result but I'm just not sure that the methods to get there are correct.
Anybody able to shed some further light on the changes?

Doomed to fail in my opinion. I have never seen anything but disdain for senior level amalgamations. Can't see how this will change. Back when I was playing St josephs (Killeshandra, Cornafean and Arva) used to amalgamate for senior championship. There was normally one other team and the amalgamated teams had to play off for thr right to enter the senior champ proper. Neither team won a game in it I don't think. Maybe it is different now for some reason.

boojangles · December 23, 2011, 02:57:26 PM

Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 23, 2011, 01:20:43 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 23, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
What are the opinions on the dramatic new changes being introduced to club football in the county?
I would like to see a full run down of all the changes but I am led to believe that this years Division One league will decide the future make up of the Senior Championship. Basically the top nine teams in the 2012 league will compete at Senior Championship level on their own. The remaining seven? clubs will be relegated to Intermediate but will all have to join with other Junior or Intermediate clubs to compete in the Senior Championship. The Intermediate and Junior Championships will be run earlier in the year.
I am fully behind the attempts to get a stronger Senior Championship and give everybody a chance to play at Senior level. However I feel that the means by which they will be grading clubs is wrong. Clubs will be judged on their league form this year instead of championship. The Championship is where a club will show its true potential (if at all) IMO.
I would agree with the end result but I'm just not sure that the methods to get there are correct.
Anybody able to shed some further light on the changes?

Doomed to fail in my opinion. I have never seen anything but disdain for senior level amalgamations. Can't see how this will change. Back when I was playing St josephs (Killeshandra, Cornafean and Arva) used to amalgamate for senior championship. There was normally one other team and the amalgamated teams had to play off for thr right to enter the senior champ proper. Neither team won a game in it I don't think. Maybe it is different now for some reason.

I'm led to believe that every club in the county will have to be represented in the Senior Championship. So it seems like the County Board are really pushing for this. Who chooses the make-up of the amalgamations I am not sure. It appears that there could be up to five clubs in some amalgamations which is unworkable IMO.
There will be alot of Senior clubs in a tricky situation. Do they do their damndest to stay as a Senior club on their own to compete at Championship level or do they take their chances in Intermediate and decide that its better to try and amalgamate to win a Senior championship.
Interesting times ahead.

On another note, I seen the annual convention report where the County Board recorded a surplus (profit) of around 150k for this year. Considering the costs involved in bringing home two cups at provincial level the County Board and all involved deserve serious credit. Lets hope these profits can be re-invested to continue with the great strides that have been made in the last few years in Coaching and Development within schools and at grass roots level.

Denn Forever · December 23, 2011, 04:34:57 PM

Re John Morrison.

Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on December 23, 2011, 02:38:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on December 10, 2011, 05:17:43 PM
According to our county board he will be back training Cavan in January!

Talking to the great man yesterday - and have to say he looked very well, out and about!

Glad to see it!!

Celt_Man · December 23, 2011, 07:35:39 PM

Quote from: boojangles on December 23, 2011, 02:57:26 PM
Who chooses the make-up of the amalgamations I am not sure. It appears that there could be up to five clubs in some amalgamations which is unworkable IMO.

The County Board decides who is involved in each amalgamation....

tommysmith · December 23, 2011, 09:54:38 PM

Quote from: Celt_Man on December 23, 2011, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: boojangles on December 23, 2011, 02:57:26 PM
Who chooses the make-up of the amalgamations I am not sure. It appears that there could be up to five clubs in some amalgamations which is unworkable IMO.

The County Board decides who is involved in each amalgamation....

Clubs must be bordering and they wont force teams who dont want to join into joining.

Breffni_Yank · December 28, 2011, 12:45:52 AM

Well Lads, hope you all had a good christmas and rested up.

Whole new season for Cavan and for once I think there is genuinely a bit of optimism.

What are we looking to get out this year? Any word in the McKenna Cup panel? Seen most counties have released their squad at this stage.

Denn Forever · December 29, 2011, 11:38:30 AM

When was the last time CG had a homegrown manager?

Best of luck to him unless we have to play them in the championship of course.

From HS

Graham takes over Cavan Gaels
19 December 2011

Mickey Graham will be in charge of Cavan Gaels in 2012Former Cavan Ulster SFC winner Mickey Graham has taken the reins of Breffni County champions Cavan Gaels following Saturday's club AGM.

Graham, who managed the Cavan minors for three seasons, takes over from Fermanagh man Darren Chapman, who parted ways with the Cavan town club after leading them to a 12th Oliver Plunkett Cup success.

The Cavan Gaels man takes charge of his native club with a strong track record, having led neighbours Drumalee to an intermediate championship success in 2006 and steered Ballyhaise to back-to-back U21 championship triumphs.This past September saw Graham help Clonguish to the Longford SFC final where they suffered a narrow 0-7 to 0-6 defeat at the hands of defending champions Longford Slashers.

The ex-Cavan sharpshooter's chief objective in 2012 will undoubtedly be to lead his new side back to the senior championship title, with a more formidable run in the Ulster club SFC also likely to be on the agenda should the Terry Coyle Park outfit retain their crown next October.

Meanwhile, Graham's former Breffni colleague Jason O'Reilly has been appointed as Lacken's new senior trainer for the 2012 season in what is the Belturbet man's first club managerial role, having been part of Graham's backroom team with the Cavan minors last season.

Westside · December 29, 2011, 05:03:02 PM

McKenna Cup starting in 10 days and still no squad announced. The moaning about the exclusion of certain players is going to happen at some stage perhaps Val should be getting this over with sooner rather than later? Or maybe he's not going to announce a squad to the media at all for this reason.

anglocelt39 · December 31, 2011, 01:40:47 PM

Best of luck to you all for 2012. 2011 was probably our best year at inter county level since 97 (well taking underage stuff into account) and our best year at underage level in my lifetime so plenty to be optimistic about. You'd have to be hopeful we can be very competitive again at Under 21 level in 2012. Senior in 2012??? would be a bit worried that it may take a while for things to turn around. We could do with Val discovering a Jason Ryan type persona pretty fast.