Official Cavan GAA Thread

[mylestheslasher]

I've watched the game on the TV since and have calmed down a tad. There were some good points worth noting.

- I thought Fintans kicks were good - nothing he could do about the goal. He's a decent keeper.
- I thought Corr did ok on Carson considering the ball came in with no pressure applied
- I thought Givney and Galligan did well in patches. Givney will take a lot of plaudits for fielding spectacular high ball but Galligan did some nice simple breaks to his team mates. I think Galligan is only 24 and with some coaching he could come good. He is big, strong and athletic - he just needs some direction. Givney is a natural talent and his improvement in the last year or two have been incredible. Go back earlier in this thread and you'll find lots of comments about him being too slow, too clumsy. Look at hoganstand and you'll see plenty say that cos he is with a poor junior team he hasn't a hope. Now he is making the top 5 player lists.
- Nesty was really impressive. Reliable from frees, strong runner, great vision, took a nice point and tackled back. Went boxing at the end and at least that showed that it mattered to him. I hope if Carr goes he sticks around, he has breffni blood in him so no need for him to go anywhere.
- Brennan played well its a pity the ball didn't go into him a bit more as he was the only cavan forward that uses their brain.
- Johnston is still one of the best forwards ability wise in the country. If he were fit I think we could have won but he looked like a man minding himself a bit.
- Mackey is still a good player, one bad game can happen to anyone.

Disapointing aspects...

- Corner backs were so loose it was unreal. Cahill just back from injury so maybe thats what happened. Shierdan is not a man for the FB line. These guys need to step up and show they deserve their place.
- McKeever - I'm just not convinced. He blows hot and cold and is a lad living on reputation from years ago.
- Flanagan - Versatile, dedicated, fit but does he excel in one position, the jury is out.
- Carr - poor subs, poor tactics and poor reading of the game. The single biggest reason we lost that game.

Taking the positives I think it is possible we could beat Wicklow and maybe get some revenge for last year, possibly lifting morale but I fear that Micko can too easily pull the wool over carrs eyes.

[whats my name]

thanks Myles for the poor junior team bit.

[mylestheslasher]

thanks Myles for the poor junior team bit.

I was repeating what others said previously, not my own opinion. Played on junior teams myself so would never go slagging a team based on the level they are at.

[Lawrence of Knockbride]

Paul Brady missing for Cavan first round qualifier
Paul Brady
Paul Brady (left) was part of the Cavan side which lost to Fermanagh

Paul Brady will miss Cavan's first round football qualifier tie against Wicklow as he defends his US Nationals handball title in Austin, Texas.

Brady's absence will be a major blow to Cavan boss Tommy Carr and the Breffni side but he is fully focused on bidding for a sixth consecutive crown.

"Championship football does take a lot out of you mentally and physically, especially the legs," said Brady.

"I'm trying to balance resting with fine tuning in training this week."

"In terms of handball, it's what I've been training for all year really.

"It's difficult to get yourself into a positive frame of mind after the devastating defeat to Fermanagh but I'm confident about the shape I'm in and the handball I'm playing at the moment," reflected Brady, who lined out at wing-half back for the Cavan side last weekend.

"I suppose I'm trying to put the loss out of my mind, switch off, and re-frame things before I start mentally preparing for next week.

No harm to the Gunner as he has openly stated Handball as his top priority but does anyone else think it's a bit silly having him come in after the league and then miss the next game which he would've done whether we won or lost?

[put-it-up]

Yeah, no harm to him, If i was in his shoes right now the handball would be my priority to my a mile but it does defy logic to let him come in after the league and then go after the first championship game. Although I would say he would have been available if we had Monaghan coming up. Sums up TC at this stagee though.

i think Gunner is a quality player but he is never going to be the difference between winning a game. Personally I want to see Sheridan given a real try at WB along with McCutcheon, so if Hannon came into the corner I don't think we would lose a whole lot anyway.

[Lars]

Hello to all fellow posters. I am a long time follower but first time poster to this forum. In the past i have enjoyed reading the views and opinions of everyone here, so thought I'd put some of my own in.
I personally think Paul Brady is a massive loss to the team. He has a massive workrate and covers acres of ground in every game he plays. The amount of times he got forward to join the attack on Saturday was staggering even if his end product was a bit wayward. We just don't have another wing back to match him. With regards to Put It Up's post, yes i completely agree that Sheridan needs to be played further out the field because he really isn't comfortable in the corner but I think playing Hannon is a step in the wrong direction. He is just not up to the standard anymore. He dosent stand out for his club team.

[put-it-up]

Hello to all fellow posters. I am a long time follower but first time poster to this forum. In the past i have enjoyed reading the views and opinions of everyone here, so thought I'd put some of my own in.
I personally think Paul Brady is a massive loss to the team. He has a massive workrate and covers acres of ground in every game he plays. The amount of times he got forward to join the attack on Saturday was staggering even if his end product was a bit wayward. We just don't have another wing back to match him. With regards to Put It Up's post, yes i completely agree that Sheridan needs to be played further out the field because he really isn't comfortable in the corner but I think playing Hannon is a step in the wrong direction. He is just not up to the standard anymore. He dosent stand out for his club team.

Physically Hannon is in the best shape as I have seen him in a while - he is prob just a game or two off the pace. Plus he is still only about 26 and in fairness to the chap, his club play's him as a forward.

Also If you are going to use that notion to pick lads for the county - the current crop might be in trouble. Think about how many of the current panel consistently excel for their club.

Gunner is a terrific athlete, we all know that, but if he going to be just coming in to play one game a year i think i would put a stop to that. Would people be so accomadating if he was prioritising soccer over football?

What club are you Lars?

[Lars]

Hello to all fellow posters. I am a long time follower but first time poster to this forum. In the past i have enjoyed reading the views and opinions of everyone here, so thought I'd put some of my own in.
I personally think Paul Brady is a massive loss to the team. He has a massive workrate and covers acres of ground in every game he plays. The amount of times he got forward to join the attack on Saturday was staggering even if his end product was a bit wayward. We just don't have another wing back to match him. With regards to Put It Up's post, yes i completely agree that Sheridan needs to be played further out the field because he really isn't comfortable in the corner but I think playing Hannon is a step in the wrong direction. He is just not up to the standard anymore. He dosent stand out for his club team.

Physically Hannon is in the best shape as I have seen him in a while - he is prob just a game or two off the pace. Plus he is still only about 26 and in fairness to the chap, his club play's him as a forward.

Also If you are going to use that notion to pick lads for the county - the current crop might be in trouble. Think about how many of the current panel consistently excel for their club.

Gunner is a terrific athlete, we all know that, but if he going to be just coming in to play one game a year i think i would put a stop to that. Would people be so accomadating if he was prioritising soccer over football?

What club are you Lars?

He may be in the shape of his life but I just dont think he is up to it in terms of quality. Yes i agree that for some strange reason his club persist in playing him as a forward but i personally think that if a player is supposedly up to the standard to be in the county setup he should shine for a club playing at the level that his does..no matter were on the field he is, apart from the goalie I suppose

Its unfortunate that Paul has this situation but a place should be made for him regardless. He is a top class footballer and athlete which we just dont have enough of to leave him out when we have him.

[put-it-up]

Hello to all fellow posters. I am a long time follower but first time poster to this forum. In the past i have enjoyed reading the views and opinions of everyone here, so thought I'd put some of my own in.
I personally think Paul Brady is a massive loss to the team. He has a massive workrate and covers acres of ground in every game he plays. The amount of times he got forward to join the attack on Saturday was staggering even if his end product was a bit wayward. We just don't have another wing back to match him. With regards to Put It Up's post, yes i completely agree that Sheridan needs to be played further out the field because he really isn't comfortable in the corner but I think playing Hannon is a step in the wrong direction. He is just not up to the standard anymore. He dosent stand out for his club team.

Physically Hannon is in the best shape as I have seen him in a while - he is prob just a game or two off the pace. Plus he is still only about 26 and in fairness to the chap, his club play's him as a forward.

Also If you are going to use that notion to pick lads for the county - the current crop might be in trouble. Think about how many of the current panel consistently excel for their club.

Gunner is a terrific athlete, we all know that, but if he going to be just coming in to play one game a year i think i would put a stop to that. Would people be so accomadating if he was prioritising soccer over football?

What club are you Lars?

He may be in the shape of his life but I just dont think he is up to it in terms of quality. Yes i agree that for some strange reason his club persist in playing him as a forward but i personally think that if a player is supposedly up to the standard to be in the county setup he should shine for a club playing at the level that his does..no matter were on the field he is, apart from the goalie I suppose

Its unfortunate that Paul has this situation but a place should be made for him regardless. He is a top class footballer and athlete which we just dont have enough of to leave him out when we have him.

I wouldn't say he is outstanding but would have been better than either Sheridan or Cahill at the weekend. Do you honestly argue that point? And why should the goalie not have to stand out at club level? Does that mean you think any fool could play between the sticks?

I'm sorry and I do agree that Brady is a very very good footballer. But how are u meant to build team spirit and a work ethic when a lad misses the whole league and then goes again after one championship match. No harm to Paul, as I said, I would do the same in his boat but I don't think we couldn't survive without him. I understand he has other and more important commitments but if you're in, you're in. Thats my philosophy anyway

[Dougal]

PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.

[put-it-up]

PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.

Fair enough I agree with that!! Again I have seen him and played against him with his club - Drumgoon rely on him to carry the ball. At IC level, he is relatively comfortable on the ball  and if he had a wee bit more agression would make a good corner-back IMO.

On Brady, I agree with you 100%. it sends out a wrong message to others on the panel.

[Lars]

PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.

Fair enough I agree with that!! Again I have seen him and played against him with his club - Drumgoon rely on him to carry the ball. At IC level, he is relatively comfortable on the ball  and if he had a wee bit more agression would make a good corner-back IMO.

On Brady, I agree with you 100%. it sends out a wrong message to others on the panel.

Thats exactly what I was sayin. Dont want to go offending the goalies out there, know they have a hard job. Just wouldnt expect them to be out kicking points although some of them can do it.

I agree with the the point that it sends out the wrong message to the team and is proabably unfair to other members of the panel but i just have the opinion that Paul is a superb footballer of which Cavan dont have many. Due to this think whenever he is available he should be a definite starter.

[put-it-up]

PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.

Fair enough I agree with that!! Again I have seen him and played against him with his club - Drumgoon rely on him to carry the ball. At IC level, he is relatively comfortable on the ball  and if he had a wee bit more agression would make a good corner-back IMO.

On Brady, I agree with you 100%. it sends out a wrong message to others on the panel.

Thats exactly what I was sayin. Dont want to go offending the goalies out there, know they have a hard job. Just wouldnt expect them to be out kicking points although some of them can do it.

I agree with the the point that it sends out the wrong message to the team and is proabably unfair to other members of the panel but i just have the opinion that Paul is a superb footballer of which Cavan dont have many. Due to this think whenever he is available he should be a definite starter.

So if Mickey Lyng, Eamon Reilly, James Reilly and feck it even Larry the great said they can't commit during they year but will play championship, would you have them too?

[Lars]

PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.

Fair enough I agree with that!! Again I have seen him and played against him with his club - Drumgoon rely on him to carry the ball. At IC level, he is relatively comfortable on the ball  and if he had a wee bit more agression would make a good corner-back IMO.

On Brady, I agree with you 100%. it sends out a wrong message to others on the panel.

Thats exactly what I was sayin. Dont want to go offending the goalies out there, know they have a hard job. Just wouldnt expect them to be out kicking points although some of them can do it.

I agree with the the point that it sends out the wrong message to the team and is proabably unfair to other members of the panel but i just have the opinion that Paul is a superb footballer of which Cavan dont have many. Due to this think whenever he is available he should be a definite starter.

So if Mickey Lyng, Eamon Reilly, James Reilly and feck it even Larry the great said they can't commit during they year but will play championship, would you have them too?

No i wouldnt for a few reasons.

I dont think Eamonn and Mickey are as important to Cavan as Paul is. Mickey is not the player he was a few years ago unfortunately he has gone way way back.
That is effectively what James Reilly did every year before this.
And finally Larry Larry in his prime could have done what he wanted he still would have been in my team

[Terry Coyle]

PIU,i think his point was a good player will stand out in any position,but a goalkeeper wouldnt be expected to to stand out,in,lets say midfield.

i really didnt rate hannon a few months ago,but i think he is a great corner back.never thought much of him at club level,but that was because he carried the ball far too much,which he doesnt do at county level.

Brady is a great player,and we could do with him,but not if he wont fully commit,and if i was in his boots,i would chose the handball.it's not good for the team,when a lad plays 70mins in the league,starts for the 1st match in the champ,and is gone for the second match.

Fair enough I agree with that!! Again I have seen him and played against him with his club - Drumgoon rely on him to carry the ball. At IC level, he is relatively comfortable on the ball  and if he had a wee bit more agression would make a good corner-back IMO.

On Brady, I agree with you 100%. it sends out a wrong message to others on the panel.

Thats exactly what I was sayin. Dont want to go offending the goalies out there, know they have a hard job. Just wouldnt expect them to be out kicking points although some of them can do it.

I agree with the the point that it sends out the wrong message to the team and is proabably unfair to other members of the panel but i just have the opinion that Paul is a superb footballer of which Cavan dont have many. Due to this think whenever he is available he should be a definite starter.

So if Mickey Lyng, Eamon Reilly, James Reilly and feck it even Larry the great said they can't commit during they year but will play championship, would you have them too?

No i wouldnt for a few reasons.

I dont think Eamonn and Mickey are as important to Cavan as Paul is. Mickey is not the player he was a few years ago unfortunately he has gone way way back.
That is effectively what James Reilly did every year before this.
And finally Larry Larry in his prime could have done what he wanted he still would have been in my team

Let me guess you are a Mullahoran supporter. What you are saying here is ridiculous. Lads train all year and this builds morale. When someone comes in at the end of the season takes someones place on the Championship team and then f**ks off again then where is the morale gone now?? Who is going to fight alongside that player in next years Championship knowing that he will probably be gone the following week.

The lads said it right, he is a good footballer, better handballer, so choose the handball. And of course we can do without him, he wasnt even a stand out in the last game.