Dubs get 4!

[Maguire01]

I can only go as far back as 2001 but this is the first year I can recall that the top scorer didn't get one.

But Masters racked up the vast majority of his tally against very weak Munster sides. Compare this with T Freeman (second highest scorer) who's opposition included Down, Derry, Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry - all bar one being Division 1 teams.

Also, people do seem to have a problem with the fact that Tyrone/Sligo/Donegal got none, despite the fact that they won trophies this year. In my opinion, yes, Derry and Monaghan did each lose 2 games this year, but neither were totally outplayed in any of their games, were they?
Donegal may have won the league, but they were totally wiped out by Tyrone and Monaghan in the championship.

Sligo, not to take away their great achievement, but they only had to beat New York and Roscommon to get to the provincial final. They won that, but then were a disaster against Cork.

As for Tyrone, maybe they did deserve one, but again this year, they were a long way away from 2003 and 2005. In my opinion, it would have been right to have had Cavanagh nominated at half forward and give him the award for there. The Ulster final win was largely down to him.

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[Maximus Marillius]

Lads it time to realise that an All star is not worth two balls of blue, it is selected by people that I would not let take our club minors never mind a intercounty senior team. E O'hara of the Irish News is a classic example of the Tom Fools in the secesion making process. The fact that Dublin have the amount of All stars that they have accumulated and only having won ONE All ireland since 1983 further reinforces my point. For Eamon O'Hara not to have gotten an All Star for Sligo, their first Title in 30 years beggars belief. I could go on about Gromely, easily the best back in ireland. I would love to see a poll done with all intercounty managers to see what back they would love to have if able to select any defender in Irelandon on their team. I am certain Gromely would feature in the first 3. A dublin team that failed again to even reach the All ireland final to have gotten 4 All stars is agian further evidence of how flawed the entire selection proces is.....its a pity that what should be one of the best individiual awards in a players career is now seen by most knowledable abservers as a side show.

[INDIANA]

For Eamon O'Hara not to have gotten an All Star for Sligo, their first Title in 30 years beggars belief

bollox- the standard was atrocious and they were the worst connacht representaives in years. and he wasn't great in their run to it.

[The Real Laoislad]

I would have given the goalkeeper all star to the Meath Goalkeeper he made some outstanding saves this year,and i don't know how Brogan got one i would have thought his brother should have got one before Alan

[orangeman]

Maximus - I would have to reniforce your view - I don't know who all the judges are but how they left out Conor Gormley and instead picked Canty after the horror show that was his in the AI final really shows how flawed the selection process is  -

[Over the Bar]

The All Stars have become a standing joke.

[DUBSFORSAM1]

Lads it time to realise that an All star is not worth two balls of blue, it is selected by people that I would not let take our club minors never mind a intercounty senior team. E O'hara of the Irish News is a classic example of the Tom Fools in the secesion making process. The fact that Dublin have the amount of All stars that they have accumulated and only having won ONE All ireland since 1983 further reinforces my point. For Eamon O'Hara not to have gotten an All Star for Sligo, their first Title in 30 years beggars belief. I could go on about Gromely, easily the best back in ireland. I would love to see a poll done with all intercounty managers to see what back they would love to have if able to select any defender in Irelandon on their team. I am certain Gromely would feature in the first 3. A dublin team that failed again to even reach the All ireland final to have gotten 4 All stars is agian further evidence of how flawed the entire selection proces is.....its a pity that what should be one of the best individiual awards in a players career is now seen by most knowledable abservers as a side show.

Max
Is the All-Star for individual performances or is it for team performances??? If it is for individual then why wouldn't Dublin have gotten All-Stars???
So if you get to the All-Ireland by beating Limerick/Tipperary/Sligo/Meath is deserving of more All-Stars than beating Meath, Offaly, Laois, Derry and running Kerry really close??? Why shouldn't Dublin have got 4 All-Stars.....In fact the All-Star Cork got they shouldn't have got...
So if Gormely is the best back in Ireland you are arguing that M O'Se shouldn't have got player of hte year?

[Jinxy]

Lads it time to realise that an All star is not worth two balls of blue, it is selected by people that I would not let take our club minors never mind a intercounty senior team. E O'hara of the Irish News is a classic example of the Tom Fools in the secesion making process. The fact that Dublin have the amount of All stars that they have accumulated and only having won ONE All ireland since 1983 further reinforces my point. For Eamon O'Hara not to have gotten an All Star for Sligo, their first Title in 30 years beggars belief. I could go on about Gromely, easily the best back in ireland. I would love to see a poll done with all intercounty managers to see what back they would love to have if able to select any defender in Irelandon on their team. I am certain Gromely would feature in the first 3. A dublin team that failed again to even reach the All ireland final to have gotten 4 All stars is agian further evidence of how flawed the entire selection proces is.....its a pity that what should be one of the best individiual awards in a players career is now seen by most knowledable abservers as a side show.

Where would you have put him? Eamon was a great player but he wasn't within an asses roar of being the best player in his position this season. I agree with the team in general except for Brogan and Canty.

[DUBSFORSAM1]

David, listen to this.

Dublin won Leinster in 2005, ran the All Ireland Champions to a replay in the 1/4 finals and did not get an allstar.

Has happened before I believe to I think Galway earlier in the decade (although I am not sure)

Canalman - It was in 2005 also where 2 provincial winners didn't get an All-Star..............amazing considering the press pick them for Dublin isn't it....

[Louth Exile]

For the barstool pundits who seem to dominate this forum I would like to remind you that the team is picked on an individual basis and not on a "how far did his team go in the championship" basis.

If you are looking for controversy I would point you to Canty's selection at corner back...

You are actually wrong in your first point canalman. A number of the current selectors themselves admitted that they place a huge amount of emphasis on 'how far a team goes in the championship' when making their selections! I don't believe that this is right myself, but who am I compared to the mighty GAA media pundits!!

Your second point is spot on. When coming on to the board today I was surprised that the main debate is about the fact that the Dubs got 4 awards. Overall I think this wasn't the worst of team selections, we all have our opinions and would have done certain things differently. I would have had Moyles in the team as I feel he was actually the most important player for Meath this year, which was emphasised by the teams capitulation against Cork. This is just my opinion, also Declan O'Sullivan must have been odds on for player of the year prior to the final, he didn't have a bad final, so why didn't he win the gong! I will also give credit to the selection committee for resisting the temptation of putting Donaghy in. These are all just examples and opinions.

What the major talking point should be is the selection of Canty. For my mind there were three players to fill two spots (Mc Cloy, Fay & Gormley) and I would have had it very close between them. It is a total disgrace, just so as they have a Cork man on the team they have included Canty, when he clearly didn't deserve it. Over the years I have been a fan of him as a player but this year he didn't come close to deserving an all star. Just some of the reasons:
- He was completely dominated by Shane Lennon in the game against Louth (who I hear a lot of say) Who, exactly! Shane is a decent intercounty footballer, but no world beater. He has no pace and is the type of player that Canty should have been well able to handle. Fair play to Shane, he led him a merry dance.
- He had a good game against a Meath team that became totally rudderless and devoid of all imagination or motivation. Basically, a team playing very poorly
- He started off well in the first 20 minutes of the AI and never got a sniff of it after that.
This IMHO is far short of All Star quality, particularly when he was up against the likes of Fay & Gormley

[Denn Forever]

Are the 3 O'Sheas brother?  If so, is this a first?

[Maximus Marillius]

Are the 3 O'Sheas brother?  If so, is this a first?

I think we shall ignore this post!!!!!!!!

[bcarrier]

Quality trolling there Denn.

Gormley deserved one ahead of Canty ( POTY designate before Gooch got to him).

The other Tyrone lad should have got FF ahead of Bradley.

[Bensars]

24 hours later and nothing has changed, still disgusted.

How can a selection panel get it so wrong  from everyone else?  ( opinions on this board bear fruit to my statement )

Cluxton with terrible kickouts and distribution that cost dublin.
Canty roasted in the all ireland TWICE.
Part time Whelan who has'nt  played two consective halfs all year ( hes even more fortunate that d o se was injured )
Brogan running around like a  goading petulant child
Bradley, worthy candidate many a year but most certainly not this year.

beggars belief. Many a year there has been contentious selections ( but usually teams in the all ireland final) but in my memory never so many.

75% of the selection committee from dublin or employed by dublin business. before you dubs start, prove me wrong !!

f**king joke ( excuse the language)

I feel sorry for Conor Gormley, N Murphy and P galvin who i feel would have worthy recipients.

f**king Disgusted..............its the only way some of these Dubs will recieve national honours!!


Come on An Lu in the first round next year

[heffo]

Cluxton, Cahill,Whelan and A Brogan! Too Many imho.
Clux
M O Se(player of year) Canty McCloy
T O Se O'Mahony Cahill
O se Whelan
A Brogan D o Sullivan Bray
Gooch Bradley Freeman

good info buckass, next time pm me, we can do bookies  not quite sure why cluxton got one tho, think murphy deserved it this year..

The dogs on the street knew the team early Friday morning. The bookies are also told as soon as the team is picked and they suspend taking bets.