NFL Division 1

[Rossfan]

Stadium clock is the real one.
The TG4 screen clock is simplyctheir best efforts to swith on/off.

[thebigfullforward]

f**k me just finished the Kerry Roscommon game there. 65th minute Roscommon got a 2 pointer because a Roscommon player knocked the ball out of the Kerry players hands??? How can any ref possibly give that. And it's not the first. Kerry lad had his arm out with the ball in hand. Roscommon player could have just lifted it

Mike Breen couldn't have been more text book for giving the ball back if he tried.

Ref gifted Roscommon 2 pts there.
Dingle gained from it in 2 games.
In all 3 occasions, the punishment did not fit the crime.
Have to either reduce he punishment or redefine the rule.
What's wrong with a rule saying you just drop the ball? None of this handing the ball over malarky.
And if someone's on the ground with the ball wedged under him and 3 players around him, give him the benefit of the doubt that he's not purposely holding onto the ball.

Agreed. Have said it before but still remember a minor club game where one of our players fouled the opposition player. Our player picked the ball up maybe 5m away from where the foul was committed. He threw the ball back to opposition players chest and ball was brought up for a tap over point because he didn't hand it back. Others may feel differently but I don't believe that's in the spirit of the game. The young lad actually sped the game up for the opposition by throwing it back instead of jogging back to hand it over. It's a load of nonsense imo

[bennydorano]

Good for Armagh to get up and running with a win and comfortable one at that however conceding 0-18 to such a patched up Monaghan team is a slight concern.

And on top of that ignominy, Armagh took an eternity to score a goal against a junior defense. Everybody in Armagh who got a little bit of pleasure out of that performance should take an ice cold shower

Strange take, can only beat what's in front of you, a depleted Armagh won impressively.

[Cunny Funt]

Stadium clock is the real one.
The TG4 screen clock is simplyctheir best efforts to swith on/off.

When the hooter goes off is what matters. Was the ball in the hands of the Kerry forward as it went off or was it in the air?

Personally I'd ditch the hooter altogether and leave it in the hands of refs on what time to add on.

[naka]

Good for Armagh to get up and running with a win and comfortable one at that however conceding 0-18 to such a patched up Monaghan team is a slight concern.

Who replaced mc Kay
And have we any news on him ?

[Tubberman]

Stadium clock is the real one.
The TG4 screen clock is simplyctheir best efforts to swith on/off.

When the hooter goes off is what matters. Was the ball in the hands of the Kerry forward as it went off or was it in the air?

Personally I'd ditch the hooter altogether and leave it in the hands of refs on what time to add on.

There was nothing wrong with the rule as it was last year - it was clear, no confusion.
They meddled with it and have made it much worse.

[AustinPowers]

Stadium clock is the real one.
The TG4 screen clock is simplyctheir best efforts to swith on/off.

When the hooter goes off is what matters. Was the ball in the hands of the Kerry forward as it went off or was it in the air?

Personally I'd ditch the hooter altogether and leave it in the hands of refs on what time to add on.

It  had just left his hands. Hadn't reached  the goals though.

[Cunny Funt]

It  had just left his hands. Hadn't reached  the goals though.

Have watched it a few times and I'm not so sure. Just a round 1 league game and will be quickly forgotten about but wouldn't be a good look to win a knockout championship match in that manner

There was nothing wrong with the rule as it was last year - it was clear, no confusion.
They meddled with it and have made it much worse.

Was keep me uppies and too many boring passages of play with the tweaked rule last year. It was stupid by FRC to go back to the hooter rule that was in place for the first 4 league games last year after what happened in the Meath v Westmeath game. Ditching it altogether was the better solution

[bennydorano]

Good for Armagh to get up and running with a win and comfortable one at that however conceding 0-18 to such a patched up Monaghan team is a slight concern.

Who replaced mc Kay
And have we any news on him ?

Tomas McCormack

[Main Street]

Monaghan were dire but it was still pretty impressive from Armagh who were themselves shorn a number of regulars.

1st day of the league has a life of its own, reality will bite back next weekend.

That's better news. Reading various threads in here you'd think round 1 of the league defines a county's season

This is the div 1 thread, I have asked you before, where in this thread did anybody get carried away?

Let it go man.. We'll maybe touch base again in the Div 2 thread next year, until then 👍

I let it go,  it was you who brought it up again, getting all carried away

[moonster]

1.Kerry
2.Mayo
3.Donegal
4.Armagh
5.Monaghan
6.Galway
7.Dublin
8.Roscommon

I know Jack loves to do well in the league but I think a mid table finish would do fine for Kerry this year. I don't see us in top 2 with all the lads rehabbing or injured. Won't have Dingle or Gaeltacht cohort for first month or more either.

So there's going to be some players getting thrown in - some will cope, some won't. I'd be surprised if we got a result away to Donegal or Dublin but once the likes of Tom O'Sullivan, Brian O'Beaglaioch and Paudie return then we should have enough to make a decent shape for the last 3 games.

Kerry had a holiday early this year. By all accounts they trained everyday and very little alcohol was taken on trip. Kerry will win the next 3/4 All Irelands with lack of quality opposition.

[thewobbler]

1.Kerry
2.Mayo
3.Donegal
4.Armagh
5.Monaghan
6.Galway
7.Dublin
8.Roscommon

I know Jack loves to do well in the league but I think a mid table finish would do fine for Kerry this year. I don't see us in top 2 with all the lads rehabbing or injured. Won't have Dingle or Gaeltacht cohort for first month or more either.

So there's going to be some players getting thrown in - some will cope, some won't. I'd be surprised if we got a result away to Donegal or Dublin but once the likes of Tom O'Sullivan, Brian O'Beaglaioch and Paudie return then we should have enough to make a decent shape for the last 3 games.

Kerry had a holiday early this year. By all accounts they trained everyday and very little alcohol was taken on trip. Kerry will win the next 3/4 All Irelands with lack of quality opposition.

Pretty sure people were saying the same thing after 2009.

Then Kinnelly went back to Oz. Galvin aged overnight. O'Sullivan got injury prone. And things got wide open for a few years.

[Tubberman]

It  had just left his hands. Hadn't reached  the goals though.

Have watched it a few times and I'm not so sure. Just a round 1 league game and will be quickly forgotten about but wouldn't be a good look to win a knockout championship match in that manner

There was nothing wrong with the rule as it was last year - it was clear, no confusion.
They meddled with it and have made it much worse.

Was keep me uppies and too many boring passages of play with the tweaked rule last year. It was stupid by FRC to go back to the hooter rule that was in place for the first 4 league games last year after what happened in the Meath v Westmeath game. Ditching it altogether was the better solution

Sure a team defending a lead could still be doing that to wind down the clock until the hooter goes. I don't see that it achieves much and instead it actually has much more likelihood to result in controversial incidents

[Tubberman]

Stadium clock is the real one.
The TG4 screen clock is simplyctheir best efforts to swith on/off.

Surely clock should have resumed from when ref blew his whistle, but instead it didn't seem to resume until ball was mid flight. at that stage, player had waited a second or two trying to figure out what to do

[AustinPowers]

1.Kerry
2.Mayo
3.Donegal
4.Armagh
5.Monaghan
6.Galway
7.Dublin
8.Roscommon

I know Jack loves to do well in the league but I think a mid table finish would do fine for Kerry this year. I don't see us in top 2 with all the lads rehabbing or injured. Won't have Dingle or Gaeltacht cohort for first month or more either.

So there's going to be some players getting thrown in - some will cope, some won't. I'd be surprised if we got a result away to Donegal or Dublin but once the likes of Tom O'Sullivan, Brian O'Beaglaioch and Paudie return then we should have enough to make a decent shape for the last 3 games.

Kerry had a holiday early this year. By all accounts they trained everyday and very little alcohol was taken on trip. Kerry will win the next 3/4 All Irelands with lack of quality opposition.

Pretty sure people were saying the same thing after 2009.

Then Kinnelly went back to Oz. Galvin aged overnight. O'Sullivan got injury prone. And things got wide open for a few years.

Just like Bilbo Baggins.

He must have given  his ring POTY award away.