What does Iraq, Libya and Venezuela have in common?

Started by Casement, January 03, 2026, 10:03:59 AM

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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Franko on January 05, 2026, 08:42:34 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 05, 2026, 08:36:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 05, 2026, 06:41:17 PM"Captured"
He was ILLEGALLY ABDUCTED or KIDNAPPED.

This is a mental take.
He was arrested.
I don't like Trump as a person but it is ridiculous how people here are jumping though hoops to defend an actual dictator just because Trump was the one who got him.

Arrested?

On the authority of whom?
This all unravels very fast.

The DEA report for 2025 was issued a couple of days before the attack. Venezuela was not mentioned once. Lots of Mexico, Colombia and even Canada. But the Maduro led cartel was so secret even the DEA were unaware of it.

seafoid

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/01/05/how-venezuela-spin-out-control-indirect-rule/The 1989 invasion of Panama, when the United States took down not only Manuel Noriega but his entire regime, involved around 27,000 American troops.

The invasion of Iraq involved more than 160,000. In 1983, Ronald Reagan invaded and overthrew the government of Grenada with 7,000 troops – but that island is just 21 miles long.

Venezuela, says Robert A Pape, a professor of political science at the University of Chicago and one of America's leading academic experts on political violence, has "perfect terrain for insurgency and terrorism", as well as multiple armed militias and criminal networks numbering in the tens of thousands.

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"Venezuela hosts numerous armed groups, including colectivos, who are pro-government militias used for repression; Colombian guerrillas like the ELN [National Liberation Army] and remnants of FARC [Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia]; major criminal networks like Tren de Aragua; and elements of the Venezuelan military operating semi-autonomously," Pape tells The Telegraph.

"America will discover enormous apathy and significant opposition among the mass public. Ordinary people don't like their resources going to benefit a foreign country. Trump's gleeful promise to send in US oil companies to 'operate' Venezuela's oil smacks of Western imperialism that is sure to trigger the worst images of the 'ugly American' that so many in the region know all too well," he adds.



Baile Brigín 2

It looks like the fix is in with the Vice President getting the job. Nothing much will change, but the oil will flow.

Machado looks to have been discarded.

seafoid

https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/2008607993651450092

Bernie Sanders: "This is rank imperialism. Trump campaigned on an America First platform. He claimed to be the peace candidate. It is time for the president to focus on the crises facing this country. Trump is failing in his job to run the United States. He should not be trying to run Venezuela."

Armagh18

Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2026, 06:51:02 PMhttps://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/2008607993651450092

Bernie Sanders: "This is rank imperialism. Trump campaigned on an America First platform. He claimed to be the peace candidate. It is time for the president to focus on the crises facing this country. Trump is failing in his job to run the United States. He should not be trying to run Venezuela."
America missed a beat not having that man as President. Very rarely misses.

seafoid


CNN is reporting that Big Oil companies have told Trump they are not interested in jumping into Venezuela. After invading the country Trump is without a partner.https://x.com/DougWahl1/status/2008558633282662500

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2026, 09:24:57 PMCNN is reporting that Big Oil companies have told Trump they are not interested in jumping into Venezuela. After invading the country Trump is without a partner.https://x.com/DougWahl1/status/2008558633282662500

So his paymasters aren't interested? Apparently it's got plenty of crude oil but very difficult to drill?

And who guarantees the worker's safety?

Cluster f**k
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Armagh18

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2026, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2026, 09:24:57 PMCNN is reporting that Big Oil companies have told Trump they are not interested in jumping into Venezuela. After invading the country Trump is without a partner.https://x.com/DougWahl1/status/2008558633282662500

So his paymasters aren't interested? Apparently it's got plenty of crude oil but very difficult to drill?

And who guarantees the worker's safety?

Cluster f**k
Costing that much to drill it's not profitable enough apparently. Plus they probably dont trust Trump to not totally flip on the whole thing in a month anyway

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 06, 2026, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2026, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2026, 09:24:57 PMCNN is reporting that Big Oil companies have told Trump they are not interested in jumping into Venezuela. After invading the country Trump is without a partner.https://x.com/DougWahl1/status/2008558633282662500

So his paymasters aren't interested? Apparently it's got plenty of crude oil but very difficult to drill?

And who guarantees the worker's safety?

Cluster f**k
Costing that much to drill it's not profitable enough apparently. Plus they probably dont trust Trump to not totally flip on the whole thing in a month anyway
He'll find some way to coerce them. Anyway it seems the infrastructure for pumping oil in Venezuela is so poor it will take years and years to rectify, by which stage Donnie will hopefully be pushing up daisies.

Wildweasel74

#160
There was some lad start of last year say on the American politics threas that Trump be no worse than Biden lol.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 06, 2026, 11:03:47 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 06, 2026, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2026, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2026, 09:24:57 PMCNN is reporting that Big Oil companies have told Trump they are not interested in jumping into Venezuela. After invading the country Trump is without a partner.https://x.com/DougWahl1/status/2008558633282662500

So his paymasters aren't interested? Apparently it's got plenty of crude oil but very difficult to drill?

And who guarantees the worker's safety?

Cluster f**k
Costing that much to drill it's not profitable enough apparently. Plus they probably dont trust Trump to not totally flip on the whole thing in a month anyway
He'll find some way to coerce them. Anyway it seems the infrastructure for pumping oil in Venezuela is so poor it will take years and years to rectify, by which stage Donnie will hopefully be pushing up daisies.
So how come they have that much of it?

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2026, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2026, 09:24:57 PMCNN is reporting that Big Oil companies have told Trump they are not interested in jumping into Venezuela. After invading the country Trump is without a partner.https://x.com/DougWahl1/status/2008558633282662500

So his paymasters aren't interested? Apparently it's got plenty of crude oil but very difficult to drill?

And who guarantees the worker's safety?

Cluster f**k

It's like the oil in Canada
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/01/06/trump-maga-pirates-venezuelan-plunder-is-almost-worthless/

Trump may think he has scored a coup by gaining arms-length control over the world's largest known oil reserves, but the extra-heavy tar sands of the Orinoco Belt are barely worth anything at current global oil prices near $60 a barrel

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on January 07, 2026, 09:05:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2026, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 06, 2026, 09:24:57 PMCNN is reporting that Big Oil companies have told Trump they are not interested in jumping into Venezuela. After invading the country Trump is without a partner.https://x.com/DougWahl1/status/2008558633282662500

So his paymasters aren't interested? Apparently it's got plenty of crude oil but very difficult to drill?

And who guarantees the worker's safety?

Cluster f**k

It's like the oil in Canada
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/01/06/trump-maga-pirates-venezuelan-plunder-is-almost-worthless/

Trump may think he has scored a coup by gaining arms-length control over the world's largest known oil reserves, but the extra-heavy tar sands of the Orinoco Belt are barely worth anything at current global oil prices near $60 a barrel

Be more profitable to keep the cocaine coming into America then
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Rossfan

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