Allianz

Started by Baile Brigín 2, December 23, 2025, 07:00:10 PM

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The Allianz Deal

Drop it now
24 (42.9%)
Don't renew
18 (32.1%)
Leave in place
14 (25%)

Total Members Voted: 54

Voting closed: January 31, 2026, 07:00:10 PM

JoG2

Quote from: snoopdog on January 09, 2026, 07:31:59 PM
Quote from: The Windy Mill on January 09, 2026, 07:03:09 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on January 09, 2026, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 09, 2026, 01:30:29 PMThe GAA has ignored county boards opinions and ploughed on. Down could make a huge statement.

I go to league games. I for one think this is a nonsense by Saval.

If the genocide and killing of innocent civilians is to you a nonsense then I hope you make your feelings known to your club rep before Thursday Snoop.
Taken totally out of context, if you read.my initial post, the genocide is terrible, and that the west sits back and let's it happen
What is nonsense is the motion. Keep politics out of sport.
End of conversation for me.

Zzz zzz zzz

Armagh18

Quote from: JoG2 on January 10, 2026, 10:34:24 AM
Quote from: snoopdog on January 09, 2026, 07:31:59 PM
Quote from: The Windy Mill on January 09, 2026, 07:03:09 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on January 09, 2026, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 09, 2026, 01:30:29 PMThe GAA has ignored county boards opinions and ploughed on. Down could make a huge statement.

I go to league games. I for one think this is a nonsense by Saval.

If the genocide and killing of innocent civilians is to you a nonsense then I hope you make your feelings known to your club rep before Thursday Snoop.
Taken totally out of context, if you read.my initial post, the genocide is terrible, and that the west sits back and let's it happen
What is nonsense is the motion. Keep politics out of sport.
End of conversation for me.

Zzz zzz zzz
Don't think its political it's just basic human decency.

Snapchap

#152
Quote from: thewobbler on January 09, 2026, 11:45:22 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2026, 11:36:55 AMIf every club and then county did the same the GAA would have to act, fair play to Saval.

But they won't. Because when push comes to shove we don't go to national league games because of Allianz. We don't refer to it as the "Allianz" (a la Heineken Cup). It's a football /hurling league. Pulling out of it because of a sponsor is somewhere in between self flagellation and virtue signalling. Only yourself suffers.

The same criticisms were laid at the feet of the Dunnes Stores strikers on Henry Street during S.African apartheid. "Virtue singalling". "Only hurting yourselves". "Will achieve nothing". Probably would have been called "knobheads" the likes of yourself back then too, had the term existed in the mid 80s. But the most effective protests against injustice have always been the ones that involved sacrifice and "hurting" ones self. The women in that strike survived for the almost 3 year duration of it on £21 a week; one had had her home repossessed. They stuck at it.

Turns out the stand taken by that handful of women standing outside Dunnes on Henry street led directly to the southern government becoming the first in the western world to ban the import of South African goods and the snowball grew from there and ended in the fall of Apartheid. Today there's a street in Soweto named after Mary Manning and the women were all invited to Mandela's funeral.

Nobody is suggesting that Saval's motion will end Isreal's genocide. The Dunnes Strikers didn't envisage their strike was going to be a catalyst for what followed. They just wanted to do the right thing, and there's no wrong time do do the right thing.

I'll support Saval's motion. You can keep calling them "tokenistic knobheads" if that makes you feel good.


Snapchap

Quote from: snoopdog on January 09, 2026, 07:31:59 PM
Quote from: The Windy Mill on January 09, 2026, 07:03:09 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on January 09, 2026, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 09, 2026, 01:30:29 PMThe GAA has ignored county boards opinions and ploughed on. Down could make a huge statement.

I go to league games. I for one think this is a nonsense by Saval.

If the genocide and killing of innocent civilians is to you a nonsense then I hope you make your feelings known to your club rep before Thursday Snoop.
Taken totally out of context, if you read.my initial post, the genocide is terrible, and that the west sits back and let's it happen
What is nonsense is the motion. Keep politics out of sport.
End of conversation for me.
1. Sport is always political.
2. Protesting a genocide is not political. It's humanitarian.

Truthsayer

Quote from: snoopdog on January 09, 2026, 07:31:59 PM
Quote from: The Windy Mill on January 09, 2026, 07:03:09 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on January 09, 2026, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 09, 2026, 01:30:29 PMThe GAA has ignored county boards opinions and ploughed on. Down could make a huge statement.

I go to league games. I for one think this is a nonsense by Saval.

If the genocide and killing of innocent civilians is to you a nonsense then I hope you make your feelings known to your club rep before Thursday Snoop.
Taken totally out of context, if you read.my initial post, the genocide is terrible, and that the west sits back and let's it happen
What is nonsense is the motion. Keep politics out of sport.
End of conversation for me.
Such mealy mouthed watery nonsense. Sport is part of life and is not a refuge for those funding genocide. Grow a set...

bennydorano

One team per NFL game should line out in the Palestine GAA strip, that would throw the cat amongst the pigeons. If even one county did it

Truthsayer

#156
Irish News reporting that anti-Allianz motions won't be allowed to go before annual GAA Congress next month.
Neil McManus suggesting 'politically aware' players should make protest gestures during the league and Pascal Canavan saying he can't see how any captain could lift an Allianz trophy this year.
League about to be a PR disaster for GAA/Allianz sponsorship.
Leading campaigners are furious.

AustinPowers

QuoteIrish News reporting that anti-Allianz motions won't be allowed to go before annual GAA Congress next month.
Neil McManus suggesting 'politically aware' players should make protest gestures during the league and Pascal Canavan saying he can't see how any captain could lift an Allianz trophy this year.
League about to be a PR disaster for GAA/Allianz sponsorship.
Leading campaigners are furious.
Is that allowed?

Surely If an anti-Allianz motion has  gone through all  the democratic processes ,  it should be  heard at congress?

Armagh18

Quote from: AustinPowers on January 14, 2026, 12:42:58 PM
QuoteIrish News reporting that anti-Allianz motions won't be allowed to go before annual GAA Congress next month.
Neil McManus suggesting 'politically aware' players should make protest gestures during the league and Pascal Canavan saying he can't see how any captain could lift an Allianz trophy this year.
League about to be a PR disaster for GAA/Allianz sponsorship.
Leading campaigners are furious.
Is that allowed?

Surely If an anti-Allianz motion has  gone through all  the democratic processes ,  it should be  heard at congress?
Like most things its only a democracy when it suits

bennydorano

See Saval have withdrew their motion

@McCoyniall - Saval have withdrawn their motion for tonight's Down County Committee meeting calling on the county to withdraw from NFL and NHL.

Rossfan

Looking for GAA to make a donation to Gaza.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

snoopdog

Quote from: bennydorano on January 15, 2026, 05:01:30 PMSee Saval have withdrew their motion

@McCoyniall - Saval have withdrawn their motion for tonight's Down County Committee meeting calling on the county to withdraw from NFL and NHL.
Got no support from othe clubs. Common sense prevailed.

Sheedy

Quote from: snoopdog on January 15, 2026, 07:31:48 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 15, 2026, 05:01:30 PMSee Saval have withdrew their motion

@McCoyniall - Saval have withdrawn their motion for tonight's Down County Committee meeting calling on the county to withdraw from NFL and NHL.
Got no support from othe clubs. Common sense prevailed.
that's not what happened. You have really shown yourself up on this matter. Pity you didn't have a bit of common sense yourself.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: snoopdog on January 15, 2026, 07:31:48 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 15, 2026, 05:01:30 PMSee Saval have withdrew their motion

@McCoyniall - Saval have withdrawn their motion for tonight's Down County Committee meeting calling on the county to withdraw from NFL and NHL.
Got no support from othe clubs. Common sense prevailed.
Unfortunately I think you are being serious

snoopdog

Quote from: Sheedy on January 15, 2026, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on January 15, 2026, 07:31:48 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 15, 2026, 05:01:30 PMSee Saval have withdrew their motion

@McCoyniall - Saval have withdrawn their motion for tonight's Down County Committee meeting calling on the county to withdraw from NFL and NHL.
Got no support from othe clubs. Common sense prevailed.
that's not what happened. You have really shown yourself up on this matter. Pity you didn't have a bit of common sense yourself.

At the end of the day people who go to matches want to go to matches. If other's want to protest that's fine also. I am allowed an opinion. If its not the same as yours that's also fine.