Allianz

[Baile Brigín 2]

It wouldn't take me long to find your whataboutety on the soccer/GAA topics.

But I'll not embarrass you

Just be up front and say you have serious problems with the GAA, as in you don't like them? Saves you all the hassle of of trying to be smart

What a cop out.

Criticism of Israel is anti semitic. Criticism of the deal and Burn's justification of it means you hate the GAA. Jaysis.

[SCFC]

It's not about "look at soccer" though.
It's look at all other aspects of society that deal with Israel in some form or another.
The question posed at the start of the thread asks if the GAA should or shouldn't drop its deal with Allianz.
It's easy enough to acknowledge that what's happening in Israel is wrong while at the same time maintain the opinion that, no, the GAA shouldn't be pressured (either internally or externally) into taking some sort of lead in discontinuing its dealings with a company who profit from dealing with Israel.

Internally? Members opinions don't count and by definition should be ignored? There will be pickets at league games, and some members won't pass them.

But the core point is Allianz are an outllier. Their level of funding of the war is bigger than any other company. Complaining that soccer has a naming deal with Aviva, who 'merely' sell insurance in Israel is a deliberate missing of the point. And interestingly only became a talking point on here after Burns used the line that they are all as bad as each other.

It's not about "look at soccer" though.
It's look at all other aspects of society that deal with Israel in some form or another.
The question posed at the start of the thread asks if the GAA should or shouldn't drop its deal with Allianz.
It's easy enough to acknowledge that what's happening in Israel is wrong while at the same time maintain the opinion that, no, the GAA shouldn't be pressured (either internally or externally) into taking some sort of lead in discontinuing its dealings with a company who profit from dealing with Israel.

Internally? Members opinions don't count and by definition should be ignored? There will be pickets at league games, and some members won't pass them.

But the core point is Allianz are an outllier. Their level of funding of the war is bigger than any other company. Complaining that soccer has a naming deal with Aviva, who 'merely' sell insurance in Israel is a deliberate missing of the point. And interestingly only became a talking point on here after Burns used the line that they are all as bad as each other.

Who said members opinions don't count? Some members expressed an opinion, the matter was discussed at national level and a decision reached that their opinion didn't merit changing the position on the deal in place.
If there are pickets at league games, some members won't pass them but I'm sure many will.

[Milltown Row2]

It wouldn't take me long to find your whataboutety on the soccer/GAA topics.

But I'll not embarrass you

Just be up front and say you have serious problems with the GAA, as in you don't like them? Saves you all the hassle of of trying to be smart

What a cop out.

Criticism of Israel is anti semitic. Criticism of the deal and Burn's justification of it means you hate the GAA. Jaysis.

Criticism of any company involved with Israel is justified.

For some reason other companies get a pass. I've highlighted plenty Aviva have done but you conveniently washed over them.. 


So please stop with your false concern over things happening in Isreal..

[Baile Brigín 2]

It's not about "look at soccer" though.
It's look at all other aspects of society that deal with Israel in some form or another.
The question posed at the start of the thread asks if the GAA should or shouldn't drop its deal with Allianz.
It's easy enough to acknowledge that what's happening in Israel is wrong while at the same time maintain the opinion that, no, the GAA shouldn't be pressured (either internally or externally) into taking some sort of lead in discontinuing its dealings with a company who profit from dealing with Israel.

Internally? Members opinions don't count and by definition should be ignored? There will be pickets at league games, and some members won't pass them.

But the core point is Allianz are an outllier. Their level of funding of the war is bigger than any other company. Complaining that soccer has a naming deal with Aviva, who 'merely' sell insurance in Israel is a deliberate missing of the point. And interestingly only became a talking point on here after Burns used the line that they are all as bad as each other.

It's not about "look at soccer" though.
It's look at all other aspects of society that deal with Israel in some form or another.
The question posed at the start of the thread asks if the GAA should or shouldn't drop its deal with Allianz.
It's easy enough to acknowledge that what's happening in Israel is wrong while at the same time maintain the opinion that, no, the GAA shouldn't be pressured (either internally or externally) into taking some sort of lead in discontinuing its dealings with a company who profit from dealing with Israel.

Internally? Members opinions don't count and by definition should be ignored? There will be pickets at league games, and some members won't pass them.

But the core point is Allianz are an outllier. Their level of funding of the war is bigger than any other company. Complaining that soccer has a naming deal with Aviva, who 'merely' sell insurance in Israel is a deliberate missing of the point. And interestingly only became a talking point on here after Burns used the line that they are all as bad as each other.

Who said members opinions don't count? Some members expressed an opinion, the matter was discussed at national level and a decision reached that their opinion didn't merit changing the position on the deal in place.
If there are pickets at league games, some members won't pass them but I'm sure many will.

You did.

The EIC report is littered with contradictions and false statements. It effectively misrepresented the 800 members who raised it. But in Croke Park we trust!!

[Baile Brigín 2]

It wouldn't take me long to find your whataboutety on the soccer/GAA topics.

But I'll not embarrass you

Just be up front and say you have serious problems with the GAA, as in you don't like them? Saves you all the hassle of of trying to be smart

What a cop out.

Criticism of Israel is anti semitic. Criticism of the deal and Burn's justification of it means you hate the GAA. Jaysis.

Criticism of any company involved with Israel is justified.

For some reason other companies get a pass. I've highlighted plenty Aviva have done but you conveniently washed over them.. 


So please stop with your false concern over things happening in Isreal..

Nobody is getting a pass. But there are levels of complicity and Allianz are top of the heap. So much so the UN called them out.
Grassroots soccer put in a motion to the FAI, it got accepted and voted through. UEFA now are obliged to vote on expelling Israel.

Grassroots GAA put in a complaint, the EIC report over ruled them, no vote. No change.

But yeah, soccer are the problem. Let's talk about them instead. Ffs lads.

[Rossfan]

Will the motion passed by 7 or 8 Counties, including my own, be on the Congress Clár?

[Baile Brigín 2]

Will the motion passed by 7 or 8 Counties, including my own, be on the Congress Clár?

As of now, no. The decision has been taken.

[thejuice]

Anything with a whiff of Zionism should be dumped immediately.

[Milltown Row2]

Anything with a whiff of Zionism should be dumped immediately.

Nope... only a sniff of GAA should.. bb2 has decreed it 

[Truthsayer]

Down great Colm McAlarney doesn't miss the 'mandarins in Croke Park' in a letter in today's (Wednesday) Irish News, on their decision to stick with Allianz. Kenny Archer also writes a strong column on the issue also scathing of Jarlath and the suits.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Down great Colm McAlarney doesn't miss the 'mandarins in Croke Park' in a letter in today's (Wednesday) Irish News, on their decision to stick with Allianz. Kenny Archer also writes a strong column on the issue also scathing of Jarlath and the suits.

Anti GAA bigots

[AustinPowers]

So, ultimately, why did the  GAA retain Allianz?

From what's been written , I'm thinking it's because  it would have cost too  much money to break the contract?

[Rossfan]

Then make a decision not to renew when contract up.
In the meantime take the GAA's Insurance business elsewhere.

[Milltown Row2]

Like anything there's always things at play the we, the members or the general public don't know, in terms of the conditions of the contract and penalties that may arise from terminating the contract.

I can't see it being as easy as we'd like. That said, a statement saying it won't be renewed as Ross said, would give a better impression to what is being said..

Any big contract (I'm not saying it's the case here btw) but let's just say I've seen people benefit from arranging contracts with lovely 'gifts'

[GTP]

Then make a decision not to renew when contract up.
In the meantime take the GAA's Insurance business elsewhere.

Kenny Archer quoted the GAA President saying it was 2030 for the end of contact in the Irish News.