Allianz

Started by Baile Brigín 2, December 23, 2025, 07:00:10 PM

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The Allianz Deal

Drop it now
Don't renew
Leave in place

Voting closes: January 31, 2026, 07:00:10 PM

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 04:05:18 PMIt wouldn't take me long to find your whataboutety on the soccer/GAA topics.

But I'll not embarrass you

Just be up front and say you have serious problems with the GAA, as in you don't like them? Saves you all the hassle of of trying to be smart
What a cop out.

Criticism of Israel is anti semitic. Criticism of the deal and Burn's justification of it means you hate the GAA. Jaysis.

SCFC

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 04:09:44 PM
Quote from: SCFC on Today at 04:02:15 PMIt's not about "look at soccer" though.
It's look at all other aspects of society that deal with Israel in some form or another.
The question posed at the start of the thread asks if the GAA should or shouldn't drop its deal with Allianz.
It's easy enough to acknowledge that what's happening in Israel is wrong while at the same time maintain the opinion that, no, the GAA shouldn't be pressured (either internally or externally) into taking some sort of lead in discontinuing its dealings with a company who profit from dealing with Israel.

Internally? Members opinions don't count and by definition should be ignored? There will be pickets at league games, and some members won't pass them.

But the core point is Allianz are an outllier. Their level of funding of the war is bigger than any other company. Complaining that soccer has a naming deal with Aviva, who 'merely' sell insurance in Israel is a deliberate missing of the point. And interestingly only became a talking point on here after Burns used the line that they are all as bad as each other.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 04:09:44 PM
Quote from: SCFC on Today at 04:02:15 PMIt's not about "look at soccer" though.
It's look at all other aspects of society that deal with Israel in some form or another.
The question posed at the start of the thread asks if the GAA should or shouldn't drop its deal with Allianz.
It's easy enough to acknowledge that what's happening in Israel is wrong while at the same time maintain the opinion that, no, the GAA shouldn't be pressured (either internally or externally) into taking some sort of lead in discontinuing its dealings with a company who profit from dealing with Israel.

Internally? Members opinions don't count and by definition should be ignored? There will be pickets at league games, and some members won't pass them.

But the core point is Allianz are an outllier. Their level of funding of the war is bigger than any other company. Complaining that soccer has a naming deal with Aviva, who 'merely' sell insurance in Israel is a deliberate missing of the point. And interestingly only became a talking point on here after Burns used the line that they are all as bad as each other.
Who said members opinions don't count? Some members expressed an opinion, the matter was discussed at national level and a decision reached that their opinion didn't merit changing the position on the deal in place.
If there are pickets at league games, some members won't pass them but I'm sure many will.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 04:10:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 04:05:18 PMIt wouldn't take me long to find your whataboutety on the soccer/GAA topics.

But I'll not embarrass you

Just be up front and say you have serious problems with the GAA, as in you don't like them? Saves you all the hassle of of trying to be smart
What a cop out.

Criticism of Israel is anti semitic. Criticism of the deal and Burn's justification of it means you hate the GAA. Jaysis.

Criticism of any company involved with Israel is justified.

For some reason other companies get a pass. I've highlighted plenty Aviva have done but you conveniently washed over them.. 


So please stop with your false concern over things happening in Isreal..

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: SCFC on Today at 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 04:09:44 PM
Quote from: SCFC on Today at 04:02:15 PMIt's not about "look at soccer" though.
It's look at all other aspects of society that deal with Israel in some form or another.
The question posed at the start of the thread asks if the GAA should or shouldn't drop its deal with Allianz.
It's easy enough to acknowledge that what's happening in Israel is wrong while at the same time maintain the opinion that, no, the GAA shouldn't be pressured (either internally or externally) into taking some sort of lead in discontinuing its dealings with a company who profit from dealing with Israel.

Internally? Members opinions don't count and by definition should be ignored? There will be pickets at league games, and some members won't pass them.

But the core point is Allianz are an outllier. Their level of funding of the war is bigger than any other company. Complaining that soccer has a naming deal with Aviva, who 'merely' sell insurance in Israel is a deliberate missing of the point. And interestingly only became a talking point on here after Burns used the line that they are all as bad as each other.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 04:09:44 PM
Quote from: SCFC on Today at 04:02:15 PMIt's not about "look at soccer" though.
It's look at all other aspects of society that deal with Israel in some form or another.
The question posed at the start of the thread asks if the GAA should or shouldn't drop its deal with Allianz.
It's easy enough to acknowledge that what's happening in Israel is wrong while at the same time maintain the opinion that, no, the GAA shouldn't be pressured (either internally or externally) into taking some sort of lead in discontinuing its dealings with a company who profit from dealing with Israel.

Internally? Members opinions don't count and by definition should be ignored? There will be pickets at league games, and some members won't pass them.

But the core point is Allianz are an outllier. Their level of funding of the war is bigger than any other company. Complaining that soccer has a naming deal with Aviva, who 'merely' sell insurance in Israel is a deliberate missing of the point. And interestingly only became a talking point on here after Burns used the line that they are all as bad as each other.
Who said members opinions don't count? Some members expressed an opinion, the matter was discussed at national level and a decision reached that their opinion didn't merit changing the position on the deal in place.
If there are pickets at league games, some members won't pass them but I'm sure many will.
You did.

The EIC report is littered with contradictions and false statements. It effectively misrepresented the 800 members who raised it. But in Croke Park we trust!!

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 04:24:14 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on Today at 04:10:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 04:05:18 PMIt wouldn't take me long to find your whataboutety on the soccer/GAA topics.

But I'll not embarrass you

Just be up front and say you have serious problems with the GAA, as in you don't like them? Saves you all the hassle of of trying to be smart
What a cop out.

Criticism of Israel is anti semitic. Criticism of the deal and Burn's justification of it means you hate the GAA. Jaysis.

Criticism of any company involved with Israel is justified.

For some reason other companies get a pass. I've highlighted plenty Aviva have done but you conveniently washed over them.. 


So please stop with your false concern over things happening in Isreal..


Nobody is getting a pass. But there are levels of complicity and Allianz are top of the heap. So much so the UN called them out.
Grassroots soccer put in a motion to the FAI, it got accepted and voted through. UEFA now are obliged to vote on expelling Israel.

Grassroots GAA put in a complaint, the EIC report over ruled them, no vote. No change.

But yeah, soccer are the problem. Let's talk about them instead. Ffs lads.

Rossfan

Will the motion passed by 7 or 8 Counties, including my own, be on the Congress Clár?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Rossfan on Today at 05:52:16 PMWill the motion passed by 7 or 8 Counties, including my own, be on the Congress Clár?
As of now, no. The decision has been taken.