What did Venesueal do?

Denn Forever · December 03, 2025, 11:19:38 AM

I thought one of Trump's promises during the election was that he wouldn't get involved in foreign affairs.

That one of the reasons is that they wouldn't accept back people sent back by USA. And they have loads of oil. The conflict just seemed to erupt. WTF?

gallsman · December 03, 2025, 11:21:52 AM

Here come all the gaaboard Venezuela experts.

seafoid · December 03, 2025, 11:22:07 AM

Quote from: Denn Forever on December 03, 2025, 11:19:38 AMI thought one of Trump's promises during the election was that he wouldn't get involved in foreign affairs.

That one of the reasons is that they wouldn't accept back people sent back by USA. And they have loads of oil. The conflict just seemed to erupt. WTF?

Trump uses Venezuela as a media enemy to feed to the MAGA faithful.
The drugs come from Mexico and Colombia, not Venezuela.

PadraicHenryPearse · December 03, 2025, 11:24:07 AM

Quote from: gallsman on December 03, 2025, 11:21:52 AMHere come all the gaaboard Venezuela experts.

take a day off..

Milltown Row2 · December 03, 2025, 11:25:56 AM

And the opposition leader won the peace prize, he aint happy that a woman won it

AustinPowers · December 03, 2025, 11:30:53 AM

Quote from: Denn Forever on December 03, 2025, 11:19:38 AMI thought one of Trump's promises during the election was that he wouldn't get involved in foreign affairs.

That one of the reasons is that they wouldn't accept back people sent back by USA. And they have loads of oil. The conflict just seemed to erupt. WTF?

Think you've answered your own question there.

J70 · December 03, 2025, 11:41:55 AM

Oil and Marco Rubio pushing it for his Miami ex-pat pals. I'm sure there's tonnes of money to be made after installing a "sympathetic" government who'll be no better for the regular people than Maduro.

It ain't drugs, obviously.

seafoid · December 03, 2025, 11:45:21 AM

https://www.ft.com/content/5b3e35d6-c05f-479f-9ac3-5ba5440acd89

Trump has no inter-agency policy process. His "administration" consists of loyalists competing with each other to be more Trumpian than the next. This works when they know what Trump wants. Sometimes they guess wrongly. In July Hegseth halted US weapons shipments to Ukraine only to discover that Trump did not yet want that. He suffered a humiliating reversal. Since then Hegseth has been falling over himself to please Trump, including ordering four televised strikes on unidentified Venezuelan boats. Trump is so pleased with the optics of these apparently risk-free fireworks that he seems to be developing a taste for them. The danger is that Trump also sees escalation as a freebie. Maduro is a vile strongman and a client of both Russia and China. Few Venezuelans would mourn his demise. Yet they would fight against Yankee imperialism. That Trump's "maximum pressure" on Venezuela drives up its huge outflow of migrants, including to America, is one of those ironies. Trump is fuelling the problem he claims to be tackling. This only makes sense if he is less than truthful about his true aim. The movie Wag the Dog depicted a US administration concocting a fake war to distract from domestic woes. Trump's twist on that plot is to stage the fake war at home while lining up a foreign country for a co-starring role.

Armagh18 · December 03, 2025, 11:46:39 AM

They've a pile of oil and Trump needs a distraction from him raping children with Epstein.

Munchie · December 03, 2025, 01:31:46 PM

Quote from: gallsman on December 03, 2025, 11:21:52 AMHere come all the gaaboard Venezuela experts.

You know you can f**k off and not post here, just a thought.

jb77 · December 03, 2025, 01:38:21 PM

Is GAA popular over der

gallsman · December 03, 2025, 01:46:02 PM

Quote from: Munchie on December 03, 2025, 01:31:46 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 03, 2025, 11:21:52 AMHere come all the gaaboard Venezuela experts.

You know you can f**k off and not post here, just a thought.

Well, it was always a cert that we could count on you to know nothing about...well pretty much anything tbh.

DaleCooper · December 03, 2025, 01:49:03 PM

Promising you wont get involved in foreign affairs is akin to GOP promising."smaller gubmint".

They have a global space faring Empire. Democracy is the best system yet devised!

bennydorano · December 03, 2025, 02:01:11 PM

Quote from: J70 on December 03, 2025, 11:41:55 AMOil and Marco Rubio pushing it for his Miami ex-pat pals. I'm sure there's tonnes of money to be made after installing a "sympathetic" government who'll be no better for the regular people than Maduro.

It ain't drugs, obviously.

The USA's motivation is obviously as pure as the driven snow but Maduro is a crook, occupying the President's office after a widely accepted (but disputed by him) electoral defeat. Simon Reeves trip through South America (Venezuela episode) was on there recently, it's on the BBC Iplayer, well worth a watch

J70 · December 03, 2025, 02:17:34 PM

No doubt, but Trump could not care less about either that or the drugs. He literally just pardoned Juan Hernandez, former president of Honduras, a year into a 45 year prison sentence for trafficking huge quantities of cocaine into the US. Perhaps Maduro can channel some of his country's wealth into Trump's crypto schemes and get into his good books along with such noble national leaders like Putin, Kim Jung Un and MBS.