The UK Labour Party

[gallsman]

The question wasn't whether individual media outlets have an editorial slant. It was whether the "middle class media" are pro Tory. "Is Andrew Neil a conservative?" isn't something anyone asked, or tried to answer for that matter. Try reading sometime. Or learning to read to begin with.

The current iteration of the Tory party are an absolute laughing stock, widely and routinely ridiculed throughout the UK media, even with all the own goals Labour (not just Starmer now lads, Labour. I know you all think working class hero and corrupt as f**k Angela Rayner is getting ready to ride in on a shiny white horse to save the socialist revolution but she's as slimy as the rest of them) have been gifting them since election day.

[thewobbler]

England is an innately centre right country. Their media reflects this rather than controls it.

And even it wasn't, Labour and especially Keir Starmer deserve an almighty pounding by the press for their inactions since coming to power. The UK might as well have elected a bathtub into power.

[Hand of God]

The question wasn't whether individual media outlets have an editorial slant. It was whether the "middle class media" are pro Tory. "Is Andrew Neil a conservative?" isn't something anyone asked, or tried to answer for that matter. Try reading sometime. Or learning to read to begin with.

The current iteration of the Tory party are an absolute laughing stock, widely and routinely ridiculed throughout the UK media, even with all the own goals Labour (not just Starmer now lads, Labour. I know you all think working class hero and corrupt as f**k Angela Rayner is getting ready to ride in on a shiny white horse to save the socialist revolution but she's as slimy as the rest of them) have been gifting them since election day.

They're not ridiculed though. You're just speaking nonsense. MSM in Britain are propagandists for the Tories and their incompetence. They regularly spin their incompetence and push their talking points. Why do you think the British public kept returning the Tories to office if the media were not pro-Tory?

[playwiththewind1st]

'We need Starmer's leadership on the global stage', says foreign secretary.

Mrs. Balls talking out her arse......

1- Starmer can't even lead his own party.
2- He swans about the world, acting as Trump's pathetic little cheerleader in chief, gathering up airmiles by the bucket load.
3- Starmer promised to raise the case of Jimmy Lai with President Xi, last week. That's the same Jimmy Lai who has now been sentenced to 20 years in prison.
4- Starmer seems to be another one who still believes in the antiquated notion of 'Great' Britain. The English still don't seem to recognise that the empire disappeared years ago,  never to return. They're a 2nd rate nation of nobodies, on the world stage.

[DaleCooper]

He summed it up best when he admitted he doesnt dream. Has no touch for the job, like Sunak it seems to be a "career goal achieved" sort of thing then onto bigger and better.

They kind of know they are front men for international capital and the real powers that be. Seems he will try to ride the storm.

[Milltown Row2]

I wonder how would have Corbyn would have handled that invisible elite policy makers

[DaleCooper]

They made sure he would not have that problem. In any case no one can handle them, you need your own organised faction.

If he did get in there was a non zero chance of assassination.

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/former-board-president-sorry-for-sacrifice-corbyn-quip/

[Sportacus]

Some bunch of charlatans in Westminster.  They'll get rid of him after the May elections in Wales and Scotland. Couldn't be more obvious.

[johnnycool]

I wonder how would have Corbyn would have handled that invisible elite policy makers

They would have strangled at birth any sort of shift to nationalisation etc that he was planning.

No matter who you elect, the government is still in control.

[Milltown Row2]

I wonder how would have Corbyn would have handled that invisible elite policy makers

They would have strangled at birth any sort of shift to nationalisation etc that he was planning.

No matter who you elect, the government is still in control.

Not with an overwhelming majority

I suppose the CIA would have overthrown him...

[playwiththewind1st]

Not sure if he was paranoid or not by that stage, but Harold Wilson seemed to believe that the British secret service / establishment were actively working to undermine him in the 1970s, or even overthrow him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Very_British_Coup_(first_edition).jpg

[johnnycool]

I wonder how would have Corbyn would have handled that invisible elite policy makers

They would have strangled at birth any sort of shift to nationalisation etc that he was planning.

No matter who you elect, the government is still in control.

Not with an overwhelming majority

I suppose the CIA would have overthrown him...

The permanent secretaries over all the different ministries aren't from council estates if you catch my drift...

[Armagh18]

Just like the Dems in the USA you wonder how bad they can be. I mean they don't seem to stand for anything and leave themselves open to ridicule ALL the time.
It doens't help that the middle class media love the Tories and now Reform, but Christ they are so so wwatery in everything they do.

What exactly is the "middle class" media?

Most of the UK media has spent the guts of the last decade pillorying the Tories.

Wild take. Just your usual nonsense.

In what way? Johnson, Truss and Sunak were all figures of complete and utter ridicule. You all know this.

Corbyn was shit and he lost. Get over it.

The really wild take is that the BBC is "middle class media". What do working class people watch? Channel 5?

Are you seriously suggesting there is not a very obvious bias from the likes of the Daily Mail, BBC, Spectator, Express etc.

Boris himself being a former MSM journalist, Michael Gove's wife, David Cameron, Andy Coulson etc etc etc. You don't think Rupert Murdoch, Andrew Neil, Kuennsberg, Piers Morgan all the other heavy hitters in MSM aren't pro-Tory? I don't know why I'm even engaging with you here as it's clear you are just being contrarian and attempting to troll.

just need to look at the difference in how the media treats Farages financial wrongdoings compared to Angela Rayner

[Tony Baloney]

Just like the Dems in the USA you wonder how bad they can be. I mean they don't seem to stand for anything and leave themselves open to ridicule ALL the time.
It doens't help that the middle class media love the Tories and now Reform, but Christ they are so so wwatery in everything they do.

What exactly is the "middle class" media?

Most of the UK media has spent the guts of the last decade pillorying the Tories.

Wild take. Just your usual nonsense.

In what way? Johnson, Truss and Sunak were all figures of complete and utter ridicule. You all know this.

Corbyn was shit and he lost. Get over it.

The really wild take is that the BBC is "middle class media". What do working class people watch? Channel 5?

Are you seriously suggesting there is not a very obvious bias from the likes of the Daily Mail, BBC, Spectator, Express etc.

Boris himself being a former MSM journalist, Michael Gove's wife, David Cameron, Andy Coulson etc etc etc. You don't think Rupert Murdoch, Andrew Neil, Kuennsberg, Piers Morgan all the other heavy hitters in MSM aren't pro-Tory? I don't know why I'm even engaging with you here as it's clear you are just being contrarian and attempting to troll.

just need to look at the difference in how the media treats Farages financial wrongdoings compared to Angela Rayner

He likes a pint for the cameras so he's treated like a "character" instead of the serious threat he is.

[Armagh18]

Just like the Dems in the USA you wonder how bad they can be. I mean they don't seem to stand for anything and leave themselves open to ridicule ALL the time.
It doens't help that the middle class media love the Tories and now Reform, but Christ they are so so wwatery in everything they do.

What exactly is the "middle class" media?

Most of the UK media has spent the guts of the last decade pillorying the Tories.

Wild take. Just your usual nonsense.

In what way? Johnson, Truss and Sunak were all figures of complete and utter ridicule. You all know this.

Corbyn was shit and he lost. Get over it.

The really wild take is that the BBC is "middle class media". What do working class people watch? Channel 5?

Are you seriously suggesting there is not a very obvious bias from the likes of the Daily Mail, BBC, Spectator, Express etc.

Boris himself being a former MSM journalist, Michael Gove's wife, David Cameron, Andy Coulson etc etc etc. You don't think Rupert Murdoch, Andrew Neil, Kuennsberg, Piers Morgan all the other heavy hitters in MSM aren't pro-Tory? I don't know why I'm even engaging with you here as it's clear you are just being contrarian and attempting to troll.

just need to look at the difference in how the media treats Farages financial wrongdoings compared to Angela Rayner

He likes a pint for the cameras so he's treated like a "character" instead of the serious threat he is.

Slippery bastard is what he is. Kiss goodbye to workers rights and the NHS if those dopey f**kers vote him in.