Laois Premier IHC

Started by Myrising, August 06, 2025, 03:51:03 PM

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On what grounds was Rathdowney/Errill's appeal upheld?

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Anybody else here that Colt/Shanahoe have lodged another appeal

Mad Mentor

R/E vs Mountmellick match will not be played tomorrow. C/S have taken it to the DRA.
The remaining two minutes and any additional time due should be all that is played. Why should R/E have to replay the whole match?

Plentymorehurlsontheline

I remember a few years ago, Kilmacud Crokes finished a club All-Ireland final with 16 men. Obviously this is against the rules. In a much bigger game, that was alot closer, Glen pulled out of their appeal and gave up on the chance of a replay.
Anyone saying that C/S are right to appeal are being ridiculous IMO. They might have not played as well as they can but on the day, they were well beaten and the extra few minutes in all likelihood would have made the scoreline worse. I can say with 100% certainty that if the roles were reversed then R/E would not entertain the thoughts of an appeal.

Laois345

I think people are missing the point here, this is about the upholding of standards, not about how much C/S were beaten by.

It's very simple, do we want to set a dangerous precedent here where Laois GAA can literally play by their own rules or do we want actually follow the rules of the GAA? Dangerous territory. I am from neither place and I know what should happen.

People keep quoting the scoreline, it's irrelevant. It could be 40 point loss and it should still be replayed. If it was a one point loss, people would be saying it should be replayed, which shows their ethical compass is guided by the scoreboard and not the rules.

Plentymorehurlsontheline

So if we are following the rules of the GAA, what rule says it has to be a replay? Because I can't find it. And there are definitely matches that were blew up early in the past that didn't get replayed.

Lovely laois

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I believe this is to make an example of the referee in question more than anything. Yes R/E the better team without question but you cannot blow up a game with 28 minutes played when it it clearly states in the rules that 30 minutes must be played in each half. The same referee is down to officiate a semi final in the sabe grade tonight which in itself is very questionable as I would have imagined that referee would be stood down until this matter was rectified and also this is not the first time concerns have arisen with this referee which have included errors in score keeping in the past.

From the Terrace

Agree completely with last poster. How does ref get a semi-final, when championship is in limbo over a mistake he made.
Only in Laois would this happen, an example of poor judgement shown by Laois CCC/executive.

Laois345

Quote from: From the Terrace on September 21, 2025, 08:21:32 PMAgree completely with last poster. How does ref get a semi-final, when championship is in limbo over a mistake he made.
Only in Laois would this happen, an example of poor judgement shown by Laois CCC/executive.

There is no accountability for referees in this county. This incident should serve to promote accountability amongst them.

The standards need to be raised and accountability is the only way to achieve that.

Lovely laois

Not enough variation in referees
.same refs getting the same games year in year out. Questions have to be asked and maybe clubs need to have more input with regards to this

Jd

Same refs are getting matches cos there aren't enough refs at the hurling end of things. You talk about clubs having an input into it. Perhaps a start would be that clubs start getting people to sign up to ref. I believe the ref in question is well regarded as a ref among the clubs and does a lot of matches at both juvenile and adult levels. He made a mistake and held his hands up to it. Should we ban him from refereeing for two years maybe or is one enough. The clubs in question are going through the various processes open to them according to the rules. At the end of it a decision will be made and life will go on

From the Terrace

No-one saying ref should be banned, stood down for at least one round of championship would be appropriate.
For him to get the semi-final is ridiculous. No accountability is the major problem.
Agree we need to promote refereeing in our clubs

Laois Rising

Quote from: Laois345 on September 21, 2025, 09:32:52 PM
Quote from: From the Terrace on September 21, 2025, 08:21:32 PMAgree completely with last poster. How does ref get a semi-final, when championship is in limbo over a mistake he made.
Only in Laois would this happen, an example of poor judgement shown by Laois CCC/executive.

Mistakes happen. it was an honest mistake- this is not the premier league where referees are full time professionals. Accountability-if ever there was a Sky Sports pundits term it's that.  Go to every and any county forum page and you have posters with the same gripes etc. regarding referees. It is a thankless job-as you are showing this with your comments. Some referees are better than others. Accept that mistakes happen and at the end of the day it is only sport. No one is intentionally going out to referee these games to purposefully sabotage a club or make bad calls. If you are so passionate about this you can go contact your local Referee Administrator, either Vincent Dowling on (086) 339 7952 or Maurice Deegan on (086) 803 3823 and discuss with them the importance of accountability. I'm sure they would be very appreciative of your thoughts. While you are onto them they will also be able give you details on upcoming GAA Referee Foundation Course in Laois, which you will have to complete before you can referee games. GAA Club Referee Course only take 3 nights to complete and are delivered by GAA Referee Tutors. You'll be good to go for the 2026 season.

From the Terrace

Quote from: Laois Rising on September 22, 2025, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: Laois345 on September 21, 2025, 09:32:52 PM
Quote from: From the Terrace on September 21, 2025, 08:21:32 PMAgree completely with last poster. How does ref get a semi-final, when championship is in limbo over a mistake he made.
Only in Laois would this happen, an example of poor judgement shown by Laois CCC/executive.

Mistakes happen. it was an honest mistake- this is not the premier league where referees are full time professionals. Accountability-if ever there was a Sky Sports pundits term it's that.  Go to every and any county forum page and you have posters with the same gripes etc. regarding referees. It is a thankless job-as you are showing this with your comments. Some referees are better than others. Accept that mistakes happen and at the end of the day it is only sport. No one is intentionally going out to referee these games to purposefully sabotage a club or make bad calls. If you are so passionate about this you can go contact your local Referee Administrator, either Vincent Dowling on (086) 339 7952 or Maurice Deegan on (086) 803 3823 and discuss with them the importance of accountability. I'm sure they would be very appreciative of your thoughts. While you are onto them they will also be able give you details on upcoming GAA Referee Foundation Course in Laois, which you will have to complete before you can referee games. GAA Club Referee Course only take 3 nights to complete and are delivered by GAA Referee Tutors. You'll be good to go for the 2026 season.

I have refereed games. Scorekeeping & timekeeping are fundamental to refereeing. He is a poor ref end of.
Players training all year for their championship to be thrown into limbo by a referee who is clearly not up to it.

Talk in circles about sky sports all you like.

Verbal

There's truth on both sides here.
There has been a cohort of hurling referees in the county who have gotten totally out of hand in the past 10-15 years.
Some disgraceful things have been ignored or allowed through when all including the county board knew there was skullduggery/settling of scores/downright dishonesty at play.
I don't think this incident falls into that category.
A simple mistake was made. It's up to the rule makers to pass judgement afterwards, but stepping the referee down wouldn't be appropriate.