Laois Premier IHC

Started by Myrising, August 06, 2025, 03:51:03 PM

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Laois345

I reckon there should have been 6 maybe 7 minutes left from the time whistle was blown, that's including added time.

Ballygowen

Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on September 14, 2025, 09:52:01 AMOpinions on whether Colt Shanahoe could have won the game in the time remaining are all fine, interesting and good pub talk but they don't have any place in this discussion.

The rule 3.2 states that the game must be replayed if the full time is not played. It doesn't say anything about guessing who would have won and awarding them the game.

If we are any kind of an organisation in Laois and we hold the rules in any kind of regard the game must be replayed. More for the integrity of the county board than anything else.

Spot on with this post. Regardless of what was in it there wasn't enough time played. At what stage does it sit well with people to appeal, 3 points in it, 5 points in it? With the match been postponed it now sets a precedence going forward. Co board make a balls of this? Is the match postponed or is it canceled and R/E in the semi next Saturday? Could make a balls for fixtures now

SpeculativeEffort

At what stage can referees (and I'm not saying this happened here at all) blow up a game early because they need to be somewhere with no repercussions whatsoever? Is it 10 pts with 7-8 mins to go? Could they do it for 8 points? Or 6? Walk off and say 'ah ye wouldn't have won that.'

Jd

Quote from: Ballygowen on September 14, 2025, 01:05:40 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on September 14, 2025, 09:52:01 AMOpinions on whether Colt Shanahoe could have won the game in the time remaining are all fine, interesting and good pub talk but they don't have any place in this discussion.

The rule 3.2 states that the game must be replayed if the full time is not played. It doesn't say anything about guessing who would have won and awarding them the game.

If we are any kind of an organisation in Laois and we hold the rules in any kind of regard the game must be replayed. More for the integrity of the county board than anything else.

Spot on with this post. Regardless of what was in it there wasn't enough time played. At what stage does it sit well with people to appeal, 3 points in it, 5 points in it? With the match been postponed it now sets a precedence going forward. Co board make a balls of this? Is the match postponed or is it canceled and R/E in the semi next Saturday? Could make a balls for fixtures now

I'd imagine only postponed .......sure the Co Board ruled according to the rules. If R/E appeal the ruling then I presume it'll have to be heard and again decided on. Rightly or wrongly C/S had grounds to appeal as it's accepted that the match was blown up early. R/E can appeal that decision and so it's back in front of some committee who will again rule on it. If either club don't agree with the ruling then I'm sure they can take it further. Fecks up the schedule but it has to be done properly otherwise some club will have a gripe about it

Plentymorehurlsontheline

Is it definitely in the rules that there's a replay for blowing up the match early?

Laois345

Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on September 14, 2025, 02:41:58 PMAt what stage can referees (and I'm not saying this happened here at all) blow up a game early because they need to be somewhere with no repercussions whatsoever? Is it 10 pts with 7-8 mins to go? Could they do it for 8 points? Or 6? Walk off and say 'ah ye wouldn't have won that.'

Couldn't agree more. There's a wider point to this than whether or not Colt would have come back and got a result or not. It's about accountability, we're into the realm now where it can happen again and be brushed under the carpet. A precedent has been set.

Mad Mentor

Why would having a replay lead to accountability for the ref and county board? Unless you make the same ref do it for free and the county board pay the supporters to attend. All it does is punish R/E who would probably have been without the player who was injured in the game.

SpeculativeEffort

Quote from: Mad Mentor on September 14, 2025, 07:36:28 PMWhy would having a replay lead to accountability for the ref and county board? Unless you make the same ref do it for free and the county board pay the supporters to attend. All it does is punish R/E who would probably have been without the player who was injured in the game.


Laois GAA are supposed to uphold the rules of the GAA all the times. Not some of the time, not when it suits them or certain clubs. All of the time. We should be able to trust them to do the correct thing even when it is difficult.

This is one such time. Its a horrible situation. RE have been unlucky but we cannot wander into the realm of 'ah they probably would have won anyway' and usher a team into the next round.

As has been said earlier, where do we draw the line? It's clear in the rule book where the line is. If a game is not completed, it must be replayed. There is no caveat for unassailable leads or anything else.

Its very simple. If the co board are to have any respectability then they enforce the rules without favour or prejudice. If not we are in the Wild West.


Plentymorehurlsontheline

Where is it clear in the rules book though? I put up the rule that was mentioned and there's nothing about a replay in it.

Mad Mentor

There's no mention of replays in the rule.

SCFC

I don't know the ins and outs of the particular game but it seems to me that whatever body allowed RE's appeal has left itself open to further appeals at higher levels by Colt Shanahoe if they are interested in doing so.

Ballygowen

Looking at Laois Gaa Fixtures they have RE V Mountmellick on Saturday evening at 5pm in trumera. so whatever loop hole they went down they were successful.

Laois man

Clonad in the junior C final tonight and intermediate sfinal the weekend there putting in a big effort out there and have good numbers.

Laois345

If a referee decides to blow up at game this weekend with one team up by a point and 29 minutes played then it can't be replayed based on previous precedent set.

SpeculativeEffort

Not sure the precedent has been fully set yet