Enhanced Rules

Started by Rossfan, July 29, 2025, 09:03:10 PM

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Do you want them

All retained
10 (12.5%)
Retained with tweaks
29 (36.3%)
Some Retained
34 (42.5%)
Dump the lot
7 (8.8%)

Total Members Voted: 80

Voting closed: August 28, 2025, 09:03:10 PM

Truthsayer

GPA survey of players:
94% of county players feel new rules have "improved their playing experience".
2:6% says have "worsened it"
... space, freedom of expression, general enjoyment, the speed and intensity of games and the reward for risk-taking were among the themes that appeared most frequently in player responses.

https://www.irishnews.com/gaa/gaelic-football/players-overwhelmingly-back-permanent-introduction-of-new-gaelic-football-rules-WRSUD4UH4NGPHP5HM7CPEXIJTU/

They should have surveyed the GAA Board members  :D

Milltown Row2

I was set against the rules at the start, that was purely from the selfish view of the change in how teh game was being ref'd..

There are some aspects that infuriate me but by in large its a thumbs up

The punishment for breaking the halfway line is too much, a simple free and loss of possession would be enough, it still keeps players in their own half
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2025/10/01/sean-moran-footballs-frc-awakening-has-to-be-a-process-not-a-destination/

The final report includes a number of recommendations, including a ground-breaking suggestion to limit hand-passing for under-15s by requiring the recipient of a hand pass to kick the ball.
This was a response to the relentless rise of the hand pass to kick pass ratio this season, from 3:4 to 4:4, despite hopes that the new rules would lead to fewer hand passes, as the benefits of quick-transfer, kick passing became more evident.

Paul Earley, the GAA's first modern AFL export, was recently enthusing on social media about the AFL semi-finals two weeks ago and giving the GAA something to ponder.
"Brilliant kicking, marking, tackling and only using the hand pass to get out of trouble or to transfer to a running player. Both games very close until the last 10 mins. Have watched lots of the games this year and last year and they have been fantastic ... They tweak the rules regularly to maintain the values and fundamentals of the game."

GTP

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2025, 02:27:25 PMThe punishment for breaking the halfway line is too much, a simple free and loss of possession would be enough, it still keeps players in their own half
This wouldn't be enough if the team breaking the halfway line don't have the ball and the opposition are inside the defensive half.

What the hell is wrong with the hand pass that the GAA constantly wants to limit it, a poor handpass is as likely to lead to a turnover as a poor kick pass whilst allowing the game to flow and players attack quickly. If the popular consensus is that the game is now a better spectacle and better to play in and more fun for the referees why make a fundamental untested change at under 15 level.

Another proposed change concerns the throw-in, with players who encroach inside the 45m line before the referee throws in the ball being penalised with a free-kick on the halfway line to the opposing team.
Good luck to referees being able to see if and who amongst the midfielder behind them and the 12 half forwards and backs on the oppossing 45s is encroaching.   

Rossfan

Anyone know when was fkn handpassing first introduced ?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: GTP on October 01, 2025, 02:56:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2025, 02:27:25 PMThe punishment for breaking the halfway line is too much, a simple free and loss of possession would be enough, it still keeps players in their own half
This wouldn't be enough if the team breaking the halfway line don't have the ball and the opposition are inside the defensive half.
Quote from: GTP on October 01, 2025, 02:56:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2025, 02:27:25 PMThe punishment for breaking the halfway line is too much, a simple free and loss of possession would be enough, it still keeps players in their own half
This wouldn't be enough if the team breaking the halfway line don't have the ball and the opposition are inside the defensive half.   

The ref can play advantage though, see it through and then bring it back
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

GTP

Good point on advantage - Could also have an option of the free being given from where the ball was when awarded or halfway. Doubt they will add any further enhancements to the enhancements so we will never know.

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on October 01, 2025, 03:01:49 PMAnyone know when was fkn handpassing first introduced ?
The 1970 all Ireland had very little handpassing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50O7ZV94lLM
So I would assume that either Dublin or Kerry introduced handpassing in the 70s

Truthsayer

Quote from: seafoid on October 01, 2025, 05:29:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 01, 2025, 03:01:49 PMAnyone know when was fkn handpassing first introduced ?
The 1970 all Ireland had very little handpassing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50O7ZV94lLM
So I would assume that either Dublin or Kerry introduced handpassing in the 70s
I'd say Dubs. Was pure basketball albeit they were brilliant at it..

Rossfan

It was prevalent in the 1940s, was abolished early 50s.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Rossfan on October 01, 2025, 06:47:50 PMIt was prevalent in the 1940s, was abolished early 50s.

Antrim were the masters of it in the 40's and 50's they were unlucky in a few semi final's during that period, the pesky northern teams at it again..

Think it was stopped for a period by a motion from Kerry  ;)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

seafoid

The GAA is trying to get the ratio of handpasses to kicks down. It rose again last year.
They are going to change it at under 15 level. One handpass followed by one kick. It's impossible to change at senior level.

From the Bunker

Quote from: seafoid on October 02, 2025, 11:20:00 AMThe GAA is trying to get the ratio of handpasses to kicks down. It rose again last year.
They are going to change it at under 15 level. One handpass followed by one kick. It's impossible to change at senior level.

Why not just get rid of hand pass unless its a volley?

Wildweasel74

They tried that in 1995 nfl season, didn't really work

ONeill

I think it was '81 when the handpass was phased out in the rulebook. It became the punch-pass. Then it came back in the late 80s.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.