Enhanced Rules

Started by Rossfan, July 29, 2025, 09:03:10 PM

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Do you want them

All retained
10 (12.5%)
Retained with tweaks
29 (36.3%)
Some Retained
34 (42.5%)
Dump the lot
7 (8.8%)

Total Members Voted: 80

Voting closed: August 28, 2025, 09:03:10 PM

thebigfullforward

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2025, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on September 01, 2025, 08:48:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2025, 08:42:03 AMIt's upset you enough to post about
I asked a genuine question. The only thing I asked was how did it take so long to call it or what reason would there be and suddenly people are getting upset over it. It was an obvious breach and I still haven't been given an answer. If you can't answer that's fine. No need to attack people over a question mate

I'm not attacking, you keep saying it was obvious, obvious to you but not those that make the call, otherwise they'd have called it straight away. Management/subs/players and supporters call these things all game, and the vast majority of them are incorrect, its ok to take time and get it correct rather than get it wrong.

First game I did I called it wrong based on people 'notifying' me, ended up the player was getting some water at the sub bench!

Mountain out of a mole hill
There we go. Some sort of answer. How simple was that instead of going off on one the first time around. I'd still like to know the course of action if it was the attacking team and they got a score off it taking time to call. Be brought back and score ruled out surely?

trileacman

Quote from: thebigfullforward on September 01, 2025, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2025, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on September 01, 2025, 08:48:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2025, 08:42:03 AMIt's upset you enough to post about
I asked a genuine question. The only thing I asked was how did it take so long to call it or what reason would there be and suddenly people are getting upset over it. It was an obvious breach and I still haven't been given an answer. If you can't answer that's fine. No need to attack people over a question mate

I'm not attacking, you keep saying it was obvious, obvious to you but not those that make the call, otherwise they'd have called it straight away. Management/subs/players and supporters call these things all game, and the vast majority of them are incorrect, its ok to take time and get it correct rather than get it wrong.

First game I did I called it wrong based on people 'notifying' me, ended up the player was getting some water at the sub bench!

Mountain out of a mole hill
There we go. Some sort of answer. How simple was that instead of going off on one the first time around. I'd still like to know the course of action if it was the attacking team and they got a score off it taking time to call. Be brought back and score ruled out surely?

Part of the delay is probably due to the fact that the linesman has to make sure that the defending team has 13 players back in defence. In a defensive position and them all running around it's bound to be hard to do.

Looking up the pitch and seeing only 2 players along the halfway line isn't enough. The missing player could be on the far sideline getting treatment, talking to a coach or behind the goals or past the end line doing the same.
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John Martin

Quote from: thebigfullforward on September 01, 2025, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2025, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on September 01, 2025, 08:48:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 01, 2025, 08:42:03 AMIt's upset you enough to post about
I asked a genuine question. The only thing I asked was how did it take so long to call it or what reason would there be and suddenly people are getting upset over it. It was an obvious breach and I still haven't been given an answer. If you can't answer that's fine. No need to attack people over a question mate

I'm not attacking, you keep saying it was obvious, obvious to you but not those that make the call, otherwise they'd have called it straight away. Management/subs/players and supporters call these things all game, and the vast majority of them are incorrect, its ok to take time and get it correct rather than get it wrong.

First game I did I called it wrong based on people 'notifying' me, ended up the player was getting some water at the sub bench!

Mountain out of a mole hill
There we go. Some sort of answer. How simple was that instead of going off on one the first time around. I'd still like to know the course of action if it was the attacking team and they got a score off it taking time to call. Be brought back and score ruled out surely?

In my clubs opening championship game we had a goal chalked off for not having enough men back and the opposition got a 14 yard free. Went from thinking we were 1 point down to being 5 points down. Felt very harsh at the time and I would like to see it again but the camera angle wasn't looking back up the pitch so will just have to trust the linesman I suppose. Also it helps that we ended up winning the game  ;D 

Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

David McKeown

There where we go. Be an interesting 4 years. Glad they didn't recommend going back to a 4 point goal.
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Rossfan

From the Examiner

"Gaelic football championship attendances jumped by 20% year-on-year, according to the Football Review Committee's (FRC) final report.

As Central Council are to hear on Saturday that the costs of running the FRC were approximately €300,000, over 1,000,000 people (1.029 million) went to the provincial and All-Ireland matches in 2025 when the new rules were operative compared to 858,459 in 2024, a difference of 171,504.

That followed a 25% jump in recorded National Football League attendances this season from 2024. A total of 510,697 adults went to league fixtures, up 131,520 from 2024.

The GAA's financial accounts are expected to show close to €20m was reaped in Sam Maguire and Tailteann Cup gate receipts after €18.279m was earned in 2024. They will also demonstrate over €5m was accrued from the NFL this year. The year previous, the figure was €4.628m.

The drive in league gate receipts owed to the interest and attractiveness of the rules as well as the decision to charge juveniles (U16s) €5 into games this year when they were previously allowed in for free. Almost 100,000 (97,858) juveniles attended football's secondary competition.

In June, GAA president Jarlath Burns revealed that attendances for the group stages of the All-Ireland SFC were up 21% on 2024. Anecdotally, several county boards are reported larger attendances at recent football championship games putting them down to the experimental rules, which could be made permanent at next month's Special Congress."

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

twohands!!!


The section in the FRC Report on the difference in cards over the course of the season is stark.

I knew from watching games discipline had improved drastically but this is absolutely super stuff.

A 68% reduction in straight reds, a 55% reduction in two card reds, a 33% reduction in yellows, a 31% reduction in blacks under the new rules.

Hurling by comparison is just a clusterfuck in terms of the rules - it's a shame to see the state of the game currently where the dirtiest nastiest individuals get away with so much cheating and the honest clean players get disadvantaged.

twohands!!!

Only taken a very quick scan through the report but the data provided in it, absolutely destroys the notion that some on here were trying to convey that there was anything close to a 50/50 split in terms of the popularity of the new rules.

The overwhelming positive responses in relation to playing, coaching and reffing at club level completely expose those who said the rules would be unworkable or a nightmare at club level as being completely wrong.


Truthsayer

Epic game last night in Tyrone championship Coalisland v Eglish. Supporters hailing the new rules. The game has been saved.

Rossfan

Proposed amendments as far as I can see -
*Defender touching ball kicked from outside arch- to be 2 points
*Kickouts must go outside 20
*Free for encroaching before throw in
* solo and go to be no more than 4m from where foul occurred
* game ends when hooter goes unless ball is in flight or a free/sideline/45 to be taken
* free for delaying kick out or kick from a mark.
* black card/penalty for jersey pull preventing a goal chance.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Milltown Row2

Was at a game last night and the frustration of players management and supporters is getting worse..

The amount of times that people didn't realise the new rules, understand them or frustrated at how the rules are applied  more by one ref and others did it differently..

Now that we are in the championship season, that's where's it's being more vocal on the line and over the line in comparison to the leagues

So when you add in the ordinary application of the old rules and then the new rules!

While amendments can help, its another slight change that throws a few teams going forward
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

BigGreenField

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2025, 12:33:11 PMWas at a game last night and the frustration of players management and supporters is getting worse..

The amount of times that people didn't realise the new rules, understand them or frustrated at how the rules are applied  more by one ref and others did it differently..

Now that we are in the championship season, that's where's it's being more vocal on the line and over the line in comparison to the leagues

So when you add in the ordinary application of the old rules and then the new rules!

While amendments can help, its another slight change that throws a few teams going forward

How much of that is rules understanding or just folk being arses - they'd have given off under the old rules.

I'd love county boards (yes I know that is clubs reps) to find a way of fining clubs for abuse/excessive interaction off officials from any source inside the ground

Milltown Row2

Quote from: BigGreenField on September 05, 2025, 01:38:29 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 05, 2025, 12:33:11 PMWas at a game last night and the frustration of players management and supporters is getting worse..

The amount of times that people didn't realise the new rules, understand them or frustrated at how the rules are applied  more by one ref and others did it differently..

Now that we are in the championship season, that's where's it's being more vocal on the line and over the line in comparison to the leagues

So when you add in the ordinary application of the old rules and then the new rules!

While amendments can help, its another slight change that throws a few teams going forward

How much of that is rules understanding or just folk being arses - they'd have given off under the old rules.

I'd love county boards (yes I know that is clubs reps) to find a way of fining clubs for abuse/excessive interaction off officials from any source inside the ground

I can understand the frustrations, I played/managed/supported, so I get it. But, levels of abuse has risen and knowledge of the new rules is a factor in this.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Rossfan

Thick ape who doesn't know the rules abuses Ref.

Some things never change.

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

thebigfullforward

Regarding the backourt rule what would the craic be if the ball is kicked out past the halfway line and it's broken back into the teams own half? Would seem a bit harsh to punish that