Donegal v Kerry - 2025 All-Ireland Football Final

[tyroneStatto]

Kerry also fortunate that Conn O'Callaghan missed the semi-final in 2022.

Absolute nonsense being put out there that Kerry could be going for 4 or 5 in a row.

They've 2 titles out of the last 15, that's it. Could's, Should's, If's and Maybe's don't count.

[AustinPowers]

Kerry also fortunate that Conn O'Callaghan missed the semi-final in 2022.

Absolute nonsense being put out there that Kerry could be going for 4 or 5 in a row.

They've 2 titles out of the last 15, that's it. Could's, Should's, If's and Maybe's don't count.

Very fortunate. They  wouldn't have won if  CO'C played. They literally fell over the line that day. 

[Armagh18]

Kerry also fortunate that Conn O'Callaghan missed the semi-final in 2022.

Absolute nonsense being put out there that Kerry could be going for 4 or 5 in a row.

They've 2 titles out of the last 15, that's it. Could's, Should's, If's and Maybe's don't count.

A bounce of a ball in 2 or 3 games and they could be but whatever.

Mad to think they've only won 2 in the last 15. Most people would have thought those brilliant minor teams around Cliffords age would have won more seniors by now, although those boys are probably hitting their peak years now and who knows might win a few in the coming years.

[Blowitupref]

The Kerry U18 All Ireland winning final teams and U17 winning team in 2018

2014: S Ryan; B O Beaglaoich, D O'Donoghue, C Coffey; B Sugrue, A Barry, T O'Sullivan; B O'Sullivan, M O'Connor; M Burns, B Rayle, M Flaherty; K Spillane, L Kearney, T O Se. Subs: L Carey, J Kiely, R Wharton, S O'Sullivan, I Parker.

2015: B Courtney; D Brosnan, J Foley, T O'Sullivan; J Morgan, A Barry, G White; M O'Connor, J M Foley; B O Seanachain, S O'Shea, B Barrett; M Foley, B Sweeney, C Geaney. Subs: S O'Sullivan, J Duggan, M Breen, D O'Brien, D O Se, G O'Sullivan.

2016: B Courtney; D Naughten, N Collins, G O'Sullivan; M Potts, D O'Brien, M Foley; M Breen, M Ryan; D Moynihan, S O'Shea, D O'Connor; D Clifford, D Shaw, B Friel. Subs: C Linnane, C Teahan, B Sweeney, K Dwyer, S Okunbor.

2017: D Uosis; S O'Leary, C O'Donoghue, C Gammell; P Warren, M Potts, N Donohue; B Mahony, D O'Connor; A Donoghue, D Clifford, Donal O'Sullivan; F Clifford, J Griffin, B Friel. Subs: E Horan, Donnchadh O'Sullivan, C O'Reilly, M O'Leary, R O'Neill, M Slattery.

2018: M Kelliher; C Flannery, O Fitzgerald, D Mangan; C Moriarty, D McCarthy, D Murphy; D Rahilly, D Lyne; P Walsh, P O'Shea, K Falvey; D Geaney, P D'Arcy, M Lenihan. Subs: R O Beaglaioch, K O'Donoghue, J Kennelly, J O'Connor.

[Truthsayer]

Some nonsense on here the day.. shuda wuda diddly-dee... I'd say one of most most successful batch minors to come through was Tyrone 1997/98 onto U21 winners 2000/2001 then senior All Ireland wins with a few 2001 minors joining that.
If alls to be believed Tyrone will have some senior AIs on the way soon 3 of the last 4 U20 All Ireland titles... doesn't always work that way tho.

[DaleCooper]

Only if they had consistent management a la Harte with the minors. Way it should be done

[Truthsayer]

Only if they had consistent management a la Harte with the minors. Way it should be done

He did well with a royal flush of players .. Canavan, Lawn, Dooher, Cavlan waiting on incredible talent coming through... Devine, MacAnnallen, Jordan, Cavanagh, Mugsy, O'Neill, McGuigan...

[Captain Obvious]

Only if they had consistent management a la Harte with the minors. Way it should be done

He did well with a royal flush of players .. Canavan, Lawn, Dooher, Cavlan waiting on incredible talent coming through... Devine, MacAnnallen, Jordan, Cavanagh, Mugsy, O'Neill, McGuigan...

Under his guidance they became that. 

[greatpoint]

Kerry also fortunate that Conn O'Callaghan missed the semi-final in 2022.

Absolute nonsense being put out there that Kerry could be going for 4 or 5 in a row.

They've 2 titles out of the last 15, that's it. Could's, Should's, If's and Maybe's don't count.

Do people actually believe these alternate history theories? They're laughable.

I've seen Kerry supporters saying it but why anyone else would is beyond me. 

[Truthsayer]

Only if they had consistent management a la Harte with the minors. Way it should be done

He did well with a royal flush of players .. Canavan, Lawn, Dooher, Cavlan waiting on incredible talent coming through... Devine, MacAnnallen, Jordan, Cavanagh, Mugsy, O'Neill, McGuigan...

Under his guidance they became that. 

Considering he'd been minor manager since 1991 with little success it may have been down to the calibre of that exception 97/98 batch coming through...

[AustinPowers]

Kerry also fortunate that Conn O'Callaghan missed the semi-final in 2022.

Absolute nonsense being put out there that Kerry could be going for 4 or 5 in a row.

They've 2 titles out of the last 15, that's it. Could's, Should's, If's and Maybe's don't count.

A bounce of a ball in 2 or 3 games and they could be but whatever.

Mad to think they've only won 2 in the last 15. Most people would have thought those brilliant minor teams around Cliffords age would have won more seniors by now, although those boys are probably hitting their peak years now and who knows might win a few in the coming years.

Or  another way to  look at it, Kerry have only won 8 from the last 38. That's a fairly poor return for  the supposed aristocrats of Gaelic Football

[tonto1888]

Not convinced that the Donegal players are all that talented, certainly not compared with Kerry. If McGuinness was in charge of any other Ulster county and had them buy into his professional training and mentality courses, they would likely be competing at the top also.

We've already seen one relatively poor team win an All Ireland last year off the back of having better conditioning than the more talented losers, would be a shame to see it happen twice.

If the losers  were more talented, why didn't they win?

It's best to ignore that tube

[Captain Obvious]

Only if they had consistent management a la Harte with the minors. Way it should be done

He did well with a royal flush of players .. Canavan, Lawn, Dooher, Cavlan waiting on incredible talent coming through... Devine, MacAnnallen, Jordan, Cavanagh, Mugsy, O'Neill, McGuigan...

Under his guidance they became that. 

Considering he'd been minor manager since 1991 with little success it may have been down to the calibre of that exception 97/98 batch coming through...

The true success at underage level is how many of those players are guided along to become established senior inter county players and all of those players became what they were under Mickey Hartes guidance something no Tyrone person should ever underestimate.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Not convinced that the Donegal players are all that talented, certainly not compared with Kerry. If McGuinness was in charge of any other Ulster county and had them buy into his professional training and mentality courses, they would likely be competing at the top also.

We've already seen one relatively poor team win an All Ireland last year off the back of having better conditioning than the more talented losers, would be a shame to see it happen twice.

I don't agree with you there now on Donegal.

Very talented squad on average. They mightn't have a Clifford but they've had a very talented squad for years now that has underachievered

[blanketattack]

Kerry also fortunate that Conn O'Callaghan missed the semi-final in 2022.

Absolute nonsense being put out there that Kerry could be going for 4 or 5 in a row.

They've 2 titles out of the last 15, that's it. Could's, Should's, If's and Maybe's don't count.

These days Con O'Callaghan gets a better reputation from the games he misses than the games he plays in.
2021: Terrible performance from Con in loss to Mayo
2022: Con O'Callaghan misses the Kerry-Dublin semi-final. The expert opinion: "Kerry only won because Con was missing".
2023: Con O'Callaghan plays in the final, stinks the place up, failing to score.
2024: Mediocre performance from Con as Dublin lose to Galway
2025: Every game Con plays in - Mediocre to poor.
Every game Con doesn't play in - "Dublin lacklustre without Con"