Donegal v Kerry - 2025 All-Ireland Football Final

[Armagh18]

Yup the focus on Clifford takes the shine off the supporting cast.

Its a great Kerry team and but for a few hiccups could easily be on hunt for 4th Sam as a group.

How did you get 4

Well they won 2022, only for Clifford having a brutal day in 2023 final they'd  have won it, could very easily have beaten Armagh in 2024 and then won against Galway so thats 3 in a row. Even 2021 they should have beaten Tyrone.

[tyroneman]

Yup the focus on Clifford takes the shine off the supporting cast.

Its a great Kerry team and but for a few hiccups could easily be on hunt for 4th Sam as a group.

How did you get 4

Well they won 2022, only for Clifford having a brutal day in 2023 final they'd  have won it, could very easily have beaten Armagh in 2024 and then won against Galway so thats 3 in a row. Even 2021 they should have beaten Tyrone.

Should have, could have, would have.

Didn't.   

[Truthsayer]

Yup the focus on Clifford takes the shine off the supporting cast.

Its a great Kerry team and but for a few hiccups could easily be on hunt for 4th Sam as a group.

How did you get 4

Well they won 2022, only for Clifford having a brutal day in 2023 final they'd  have won it, could very easily have beaten Armagh in 2024 and then won against Galway so thats 3 in a row. Even 2021 they should have beaten Tyrone.

What is all that about? 
Why should they have beat Tyrone in '21? They didn't...simples 🤷

[larryin89]

If Kerry were to play Tyrone ten times in 2021 , they'd of won about 7 or 8 times but there is the flaw in our main competition, it should be a league format not a cup  competition .

[Truthsayer]

If Kerry were to play Tyrone ten times in 2021 , they'd of won about 7 or 8 times but there is the flaw in our main competition, it should be a league format not a cup  competition .

if Kerry were good enough they would have beaten Tyrone on the day that it mattered. The format didn't stop Dublin winning six in a row. Daft talk

[Armagh18]

Yup the focus on Clifford takes the shine off the supporting cast.

Its a great Kerry team and but for a few hiccups could easily be on hunt for 4th Sam as a group.

How did you get 4

Well they won 2022, only for Clifford having a brutal day in 2023 final they'd  have won it, could very easily have beaten Armagh in 2024 and then won against Galway so thats 3 in a row. Even 2021 they should have beaten Tyrone.

Should have, could have, would have.

Didn't.   

100%. Same as ourselves last year.

Point is this is a very good Kerry team thats been knocking on the door over the last few years but only got over the line once. It's not a stretch to say that they could have won Sam in 2021, 2023 or 2024.

[DaleCooper]

You could argue format but Id argue county setups in general. The amount of energy and commitment is very hard to recreate year after year.

That same group in the 90s would be Harlem Globetrotters.

[Armagh18]

You could argue format but Id argue county setups in general. The amount of energy and commitment is very hard to recreate year after year.

That same group in the 90s would be Harlem Globetrotters.

100%. Shows how freakish that Dublin team was.

[tonto1888]

Yup the focus on Clifford takes the shine off the supporting cast.

Its a great Kerry team and but for a few hiccups could easily be on hunt for 4th Sam as a group.

How did you get 4

Well they won 2022, only for Clifford having a brutal day in 2023 final they'd  have won it, could very easily have beaten Armagh in 2024 and then won against Galway so thats 3 in a row. Even 2021 they should have beaten Tyrone.

A brutal day in the 2023 final? I wouldn't say that

[AustinPowers]

If Kerry were to play Tyrone ten times in 2021 , they'd of won about 7 or 8 times but there is the flaw in our main competition, it should be a league format not a cup  competition .

Nah, straight knock out  for me

league formats only  favour big counties with  big squads.  The underdog wins are some of the most memorable in GAA history , Armagh Tyrone AI wins, Westmeath, Clare 92, Leitrim ,  Tipperary, Louth this year etc.
 
What's the point when Dublin and Kerry win every year?

[SouthDublinBro]

Not convinced that the Donegal players are all that talented, certainly not compared with Kerry. If McGuinness was in charge of any other Ulster county and had them buy into his professional training and mentality courses, they would likely be competing at the top also.

We've already seen one relatively poor team win an All Ireland last year off the back of having better conditioning than the more talented losers, would be a shame to see it happen twice.

[AustinPowers]

Not convinced that the Donegal players are all that talented, certainly not compared with Kerry. If McGuinness was in charge of any other Ulster county and had them buy into his professional training and mentality courses, they would likely be competing at the top also.

We've already seen one relatively poor team win an All Ireland last year off the back of having better conditioning than the more talented losers, would be a shame to see it happen twice.

If the losers  were more talented, why didn't they win?

[SouthDublinBro]

because Shane Walsh shat the togs on the big occasion.

[AustinPowers]

because Shane Walsh shat the togs on the big occasion.

They weren't  the more talented then

That's like the  earlier argument about Kerry should be going for 7 All Ireland's  in a row if it wasn't for their  pesky opponents  performing  better and scoring more than  them 

[Mario]

Yup the focus on Clifford takes the shine off the supporting cast.

Its a great Kerry team and but for a few hiccups could easily be on hunt for 4th Sam as a group.

How did you get 4

Well they won 2022, only for Clifford having a brutal day in 2023 final they'd  have won it, could very easily have beaten Armagh in 2024 and then won against Galway so thats 3 in a row. Even 2021 they should have beaten Tyrone.

Yup the focus on Clifford takes the shine off the supporting cast.

Its a great Kerry team and but for a few hiccups could easily be on hunt for 4th Sam as a group.

How did you get 4

Well they won 2022, only for Clifford having a brutal day in 2023 final they'd  have won it, could very easily have beaten Armagh in 2024 and then won against Galway so thats 3 in a row. Even 2021 they should have beaten Tyrone.

A brutal day in the 2023 final? I wouldn't say that

They were very lucky to even get to the 2023 final.