Race for the ARAS 2025

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Rossfan

It's ok to bate a man to death but not ok for anyone to mention it afterwards!.
Provologic or fear of stepping out of line?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Franko

Quote from: Rossfan on October 20, 2025, 10:57:59 PMIt's ok to bate a man to death but not ok for anyone to mention it afterwards!.
Provologic or fear of stepping out of line?

If you'd care to point out where anyone except yourself has said that, then please do so

Otherwise, please pipe down, and stop acting the child

The crassness of this post proves HoG's point perfectly

Hand of God

Quote from: Rossfan on October 20, 2025, 10:38:30 PMIts not an election issue.
Today is the anniversary of his murder.
The stock response (dictated from SF HQ?) is "those raising it don't care about the Quinn family".

You are obsessed with SF. So obsessed that you abhorrently travel down the path of exploiting the suffering and pain of a victims family to garner a bit of bad press.

You are reminiscent of the far right "activists" who use Aisling Murphy's death to stir up racism and hate against immigrants. That's the gutter level you have sank to and you seem utterly unrepentant about going down there which I think speaks volumes of your character.

"Shinners" this
"SF HQ" that

You seem to be a bit of a conspiracy theorist along with your hatred of northerners.

Hand of God

Quote from: Rossfan on October 20, 2025, 10:57:59 PMIt's ok to bate a man to death but not ok for anyone to mention it afterwards!.
Provologic or fear of stepping out of line?

That seems like a very dignified way to talk about the victim of a terrible crime.

You have absolutely no moral compass whatsoever.

Snapchap

Quote from: Snapchap on October 20, 2025, 04:35:52 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 20, 2025, 12:11:08 PMI'd say the Quinn family might just feel that what was done to their son this day 18 years ago was worse than "FFG" f bringing up his horrific murder.



Who suggested otherwise?

Yeah. Thought not.

Snapchap

Quote from: Rossfan on October 20, 2025, 10:57:59 PMIt's ok to bate a man to death but not ok for anyone to mention it afterwards!.
Provologic or fear of stepping out of line?

Didn't see any poster suggest it was ok. Care to say which poster did?

fearbrags

#1041
https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2025/1008/1537556-liam-farrell/

I can tell you  Sinn Féin and the independents   have being a lot more help to the Farrell family  then FF or Fg
Indeed the family are most disappointed With Fianna Fail as poor Liam was a staunch Fianna Fail supporter all his life and canvassed for several FF candidates ain  both local and national elections,  From reports the family of Shane O'Farrell  have found the same

Tubberman

Quote from: fearbrags on October 21, 2025, 02:53:29 AMhttps://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2025/1008/1537556-liam-farrell/

I can tell you  Sinn Féin and the independents   have being a lot more help to the Farrell family  then FF or Fg
Indeed the family are most disappointed With Fianna Fail as poor Liam was a staunch Fianna Fail supporter all his life and canvassed for several FF candidates ain  both local and national elections,  From reports the family of Shane O'Farrell  have found the same


Why are you bringing this man's death into a presidential debate?
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Captain Scarlet

From the Journal...

When asked about Fine Gael barrister who represented clients in other controversial cases, Humphreys said "barristers have a job to do".

"The point I am making is, how can you stand up and give out and criticise and castigate banks and at the same time you're working for them to repossess houses".

them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

Hand of God

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 21, 2025, 08:25:48 AMFrom the Journal...

When asked about Fine Gael barrister who represented clients in other controversial cases, Humphreys said "barristers have a job to do".

"The point I am making is, how can you stand up and give out and criticise and castigate banks and at the same time you're working for them to repossess houses".



It's such a a weak hand to be throwing all they have at. That's the way the legal system works. Jim O'Callaghan has represented Gerry Adams, Joe Brolly has represented Winkie Irvine.

It's the way FF and FG and their supporters have Americanised Irish political discourse with attack videos and negative campaigning for the past 10 years. They don't stand for anything themselves so they smear the rest of them is what they do.

The political atmosphere has turned toxic down south and it is solely down to the 2 establishment parties.

Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

weareros

Quote from: Hand of God on October 21, 2025, 08:32:25 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 21, 2025, 08:25:48 AMFrom the Journal...

When asked about Fine Gael barrister who represented clients in other controversial cases, Humphreys said "barristers have a job to do".

"The point I am making is, how can you stand up and give out and criticise and castigate banks and at the same time you're working for them to repossess houses".



It's such a a weak hand to be throwing all they have at. That's the way the legal system works. Jim O'Callaghan has represented Gerry Adams, Joe Brolly has represented Winkie Irvine.

It's the way FF and FG and their supporters have Americanised Irish political discourse with attack videos and negative campaigning for the past 10 years. They don't stand for anything themselves so they smear the rest of them is what they do.

The political atmosphere has turned toxic down south and it is solely down to the 2 establishment parties.

The barrister thing has completely backfired on FG and was poor form. That was her job and 99.9% of Irish barristers would take that job.

However a civil case like home evictions is not the same as a criminal case like Winkie Irvine with a boot full of guns and an Irish government funded degree in his car.

A civil case on home evictions can be turned down for 4 reasons: too busy, not area of expertise, not paid enough, or conflict of interest.

Of course the bar council of Ireland won't say this because they don't want to ruin what is the biggest gravy train in Ireland where bootfuls of money is made from endless tribunals that go nowhere. No one ever met a barrister/lawyer who turned down money. Sure they have no choice and never should be judged on who is paying them. There never was a distinction in Ireland between left and right in this regard and generally FG would be the last party you'd expect to make a fuss on this because I imagine many of these people are FG to the core.

seafoid

Quote from: Hand of God on October 20, 2025, 11:31:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 20, 2025, 10:38:30 PMIts not an election issue.
Today is the anniversary of his murder.
The stock response (dictated from SF HQ?) is "those raising it don't care about the Quinn family".

You are obsessed with SF. So obsessed that you abhorrently travel down the path of exploiting the suffering and pain of a victims family to garner a bit of bad press.

You are reminiscent of the far right "activists" who use Aisling Murphy's death to stir up racism and hate against immigrants. That's the gutter level you have sank to and you seem utterly unrepentant about going down there which I think speaks volumes of your character.

"Shinners" this
"SF HQ" that

You seem to be a bit of a conspiracy theorist along with your hatred of northerners.
Shinners is common usage. Calling this evidence of *hatred of northerners * is puerile.
What does *hatred of northerners* have to do with the election? Answers on a postcard.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 21, 2025, 08:25:48 AMFrom the Journal...

When asked about Fine Gael barrister who represented clients in other controversial cases, Humphreys said "barristers have a job to do".

"The point I am making is, how can you stand up and give out and criticise and castigate banks and at the same time you're working for them to repossess houses".


But it wasn't 'at the same time'. That's the point.

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/10/21/fintan-otoole-catherine-connolly-is-going-to-win-heather-humphreys-needs-to-be-a-better-loser/

Fianna Fáil made itself irrelevant to this election – its best hope of salvaging a smidgen of respectability on Friday is for Jim Gavin to function as an empty cipher for the protest vote. This is at least vaguely amusing: Fianna Fáil going into its centenary year as the middle finger for middle Ireland.

In the Sunday Independent, Heather Humphreys unveiled her theme for the last week of the campaign: "Before Catherine got into politics and before I got into politics, she was working for UK banks to repossess Irish homes. I was working as a credit union manager and I was trying to help people with huge financial difficulties that they face and I was trying to keep them in their homes. I have always tried to help people. I've never tried to capitalise on somebody's misfortune and to make money out of it. And that's the difference..."


Independent candidate Catherine Connolly and Fine Gael's Heather Humphreys await the voters' verdict on Friday. Photograph: Dara Mac Dónaill
Independent candidate Catherine Connolly and Fine Gael's Heather Humphreys await the voters' verdict on Friday. Photograph: Dara Mac Dónaill
This is feckless populism. Connolly has many questions to answer and she dodges most of them. But trying to make her guilty by association with the clients she represented when she was working as a barrister is cheap, cynical and corrosive of trust in the justice system.

Fine Gael has form in this regard. During the general election of February 2020 the party sent out Regina Doherty to allege that Fianna Fáil was preparing to enter government with Sinn Féin. Her evidence? That Jim O'Callaghan had once acted as a barrister for Gerry Adams in a defamation case against a national newspaper. He had, she alleged in relation to Sinn Féin, "taken their coin".

In itself, this is absurd – by the same contorted logic, a former Fine Gael taoiseach John A Costello was a traitor to Ireland when he was retained to act for Winston Churchill in a libel case.

But it also raises an obvious question for Fine Gael now: if Connolly is unfit to be president because she took payment from banks to represent them in court, surely the party should refuse to serve in Cabinet with O'Callaghan, who took the Sinn Féin shilling?

Humphreys might also have stopped to wonder about Tom O'Higgins, her party's candidate for president in both 1966 and 1973. In all his years as a senior counsel did he never represent a murderer or a rapist or a bank seeking to repossess some unfortunate person's home or business? Presuming he did, Fine Gael must be relieved he lost both of those elections. How could they have borne the shame otherwise?

Vandalism
As well as being idiotic, however, the decision to scrawl all over Connolly because of who she represented in some court cases is a larger act of vandalism. Democracy and its institutions are under attack across the world – and one of those institutions is a legal system in which everyone has the right to representation in court.