Race for the ARAS 2025

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Armagh18

Quote from: Rossfan on October 13, 2025, 04:09:14 PMQuestion for ye boys and girls-
Catherine 🙃 gets elected.
The Dáil and Seanad pass an Act she totally disagrees with which she refuses to sign full stop.

What then?
What does the constitution say? Would have to be amended to meet Presidents approval wouldn't it?


seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on October 13, 2025, 04:09:14 PMQuestion for ye boys and girls-
Catherine 🙃 gets elected.
The Dáil and Seanad pass an Act she totally disagrees with which she refuses to sign full stop.

What then?
She has a simiar outlook to Michael D. The hypothetical  question didn't arise with him. So it's unlikely to arise with her, assuming she wins.

Rossfan



2° In the event of the failure of the President to exercise or perform any power or function which the President is by or under this Constitution required to exercise or perform within a specified time, the said power or function shall be exercised or performed under this Article, as soon as may be after the expiration of the time so specified.

Seems to lay down that a Commission of Chief Justice, Ceann Comhairle and Cathaoirleach of the Seanad (earlier part of Article 14) can do the job in those circumstances.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

DaleCooper

"The Catherine"

Have to admit I giggled.

Armagh18

Quote from: Rossfan on October 13, 2025, 05:15:24 PM2° In the event of the failure of the President to exercise or perform any power or function which the President is by or under this Constitution required to exercise or perform within a specified time, the said power or function shall be exercised or performed under this Article, as soon as may be after the expiration of the time so specified.

Seems to lay down that a Commission of Chief Justice, Ceann Comhairle and Cathaoirleach of the Seanad (earlier part of Article 14) can do the job in those circumstances.
Is the President "required" to pass a law they feel is wrong?

(Total hypothetical here)

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/13/presidential-election-live-updates/

Minister for Further and Higher Education James Lawless questions reports that Fianna Fáil could end up with a €500,000 bill from its candidate Jim Gavin's withdrawn bid

trileacman

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 13, 2025, 05:41:45 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 13, 2025, 05:15:24 PM2° In the event of the failure of the President to exercise or perform any power or function which the President is by or under this Constitution required to exercise or perform within a specified time, the said power or function shall be exercised or performed under this Article, as soon as may be after the expiration of the time so specified.

Seems to lay down that a Commission of Chief Justice, Ceann Comhairle and Cathaoirleach of the Seanad (earlier part of Article 14) can do the job in those circumstances.
Is the President "required" to pass a law they feel is wrong?

(Total hypothetical here)

Yes.

What possible authority could they claim to deny it?
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

From the Bunker

Quote from: seafoid on October 13, 2025, 06:43:45 PMhttps://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/10/13/presidential-election-live-updates/

Minister for Further and Higher Education James Lawless questions reports that Fianna Fáil could end up with a €500,000 bill from its candidate Jim Gavin's withdrawn bid

In that case, Ye Fianna Fail supporters should get out there and Give Jim Number one so that the costs are covered by the state.


Rossfan

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Captain Scarlet

From the Irish Examiner...

Ms Humphreys retired from politics last year after a decade at Cabinet, citing concerns over her health and energy levels. This summer she made a return to politics to become the Fine Gael candidate for the presidency following the withdrawal of Mairead McGuinness.

How has this woman been in politics for so long abd have so little cop on as to be saying that during a campaign.
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

Rossfan

#941
There was no campaign last year.

Latest opinion poll
Connolly 38%
Humphreys 20%
Gavin 5%.

Won't vote 12%
Will spoil vote 6%
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

OakLeaf

Quote from: Rossfan on October 16, 2025, 08:52:10 AMThere was no campaign last year.

Latest opinion poll
Connolly 38%
Humphreys 20%
Gavin 5%.

Won't vote 12%
Will spoil vote 6%

Another interesting part of that poll was that Gavin's votes would have transferred pretty evenly across the two. I dont think many people would have thought that?

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 13, 2025, 05:41:45 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 13, 2025, 05:15:24 PM2° In the event of the failure of the President to exercise or perform any power or function which the President is by or under this Constitution required to exercise or perform within a specified time, the said power or function shall be exercised or performed under this Article, as soon as may be after the expiration of the time so specified.

Seems to lay down that a Commission of Chief Justice, Ceann Comhairle and Cathaoirleach of the Seanad (earlier part of Article 14) can do the job in those circumstances.
Is the President "required" to pass a law they feel is wrong?

(Total hypothetical here)
No. They then discuss with council of state and can kick to the supreme court. But only on constitutional grounds

Rossfan

Quote from: OakLeaf on October 16, 2025, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 16, 2025, 08:52:10 AMThere was no campaign last year.

Latest opinion poll
Connolly 38%
Humphreys 20%
Gavin 5%.

Won't vote 12%
Will spoil vote 6%

Another interesting part of that poll was that Gavin's votes would have transferred pretty evenly across the two. I dont think many people would have thought that?
Would suggest a lot of FF voters and "FF gene pool" voters staying at home or undecided.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.