Race for the ARAS 2025

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armaghniac

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 23, 2025, 11:11:28 PMyou choose to misrepresent her opinions.. so where did she imply the voters of Germany were drawing inspiration from the 30s and you have misreprented her numerous times.

She said they were following the policies of the 1930s. I have not misrepresented her.
And while I do not agree with Germany's policy re the Middle East, this is a conscious attempt to do the opposite of the 1930s.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 11:57:23 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 23, 2025, 11:11:28 PMyou choose to misrepresent her opinions.. so where did she imply the voters of Germany were drawing inspiration from the 30s and you have misreprented her numerous times.

She said they were following the policies of the 1930s. I have not misrepresented her.
And while I do not agree with Germany's policy re the Middle East, this is a conscious attempt to do the opposite of the 1930s.

provide your source where she implied the voters of Germany were drawing inspiration from the 30s.

I dont understand what you mean by a conscious attempt to do the opposite of the 1930s but rather than explain that provide the source please.


armaghniac

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 24, 2025, 12:06:48 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 11:57:23 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 23, 2025, 11:11:28 PMyou choose to misrepresent her opinions.. so where did she imply the voters of Germany were drawing inspiration from the 30s and you have misreprented her numerous times.

She said they were following the policies of the 1930s. I have not misrepresented her.
And while I do not agree with Germany's policy re the Middle East, this is a conscious attempt to do the opposite of the 1930s.

provide your source where she implied the voters of Germany were drawing inspiration from the 30s.

I provided the quote. If you are fighting over the difference between parallels and doing the same thing, then that is mere semantics 

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 24, 2025, 12:06:48 AMI dont understand what you mean by a conscious attempt to do the opposite of the 1930s but rather than explain that provide the source please.

I said that events in the 1930s meant that Germany was instinctively pro-Israel. I do not agree with them but I do understand the context. Connolly could reasonably have made moderate comment criticising Germany about Israel, that she chose to to do re Ukraine is disgusting.
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PadraicHenryPearse

You haven't provided a quote, you tried to paraphrase but I think you have misreprented Connolly in doing so. I assume there is no quote or you are not aware of what she said.

never again was the lesson of the Holocaust. the events of the Holocaust were against Jews not the state of Israel.

Snapchap

Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 08:11:00 PMBetter a useless President than a dangerous offensive one.

Hymphreys tried to force disabled people to go through degrading examinations to test their fitness for work. That's the sort of Thatherite policies that I find offensive, but each to their own.

Dag Dog

Quote from: Snapchap on October 24, 2025, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 08:11:00 PMBetter a useless President than a dangerous offensive one.

Hymphreys tried to force disabled people to go through degrading examinations to test their fitness for work. That's the sort of Thatherite policies that I find offensive, but each to their own.

What's wrong with someone on disability benefits for having to do an occasional recheck?

Josef Puska was able bodied enough to attack and murder an able bodied girl out jogging and cycle away.
Should he have been entitled to benefits for the rest of his life, with no one daring to get an update on his medical status? Apparently so according to the left.


Armagh18

Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 08:57:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on October 24, 2025, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 08:11:00 PMBetter a useless President than a dangerous offensive one.

Hymphreys tried to force disabled people to go through degrading examinations to test their fitness for work. That's the sort of Thatherite policies that I find offensive, but each to their own.

What's wrong with someone on disability benefits for having to do an occasional recheck?

Josef Puska was able bodied enough to attack and murder an able bodied girl out jogging and cycle away.
Should he have been entitled to benefits for the rest of his life, with no one daring to get an update on his medical status? Apparently so according to the left.


As with everything, theres a sensible middle on this one. The amount of c***ts getting dla with nothing wrong with them is unreal, but then on the opposite side theres horror stories of genuinely disabled people having benefits cut and being forced into work.

Surely it's possible to balance this?

PadraicHenryPearse

Disability activists said the plans were a "degrading and humiliating" value judgment that would give the impression that some people were falsifying the extent of their impairment or illness.

Mr Clonan has described the Green Paper as a "cut and paste" of a "very discredited austerity measure" in the UK called the workplace capacity assessment.

He said the document would mean 250,000 recipients of disability allowance would need to be medically examined every five years.

Snapchap

Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 08:57:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on October 24, 2025, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 08:11:00 PMBetter a useless President than a dangerous offensive one.

Hymphreys tried to force disabled people to go through degrading examinations to test their fitness for work. That's the sort of Thatherite policies that I find offensive, but each to their own.

What's wrong with someone on disability benefits for having to do an occasional recheck?

Josef Puska was able bodied enough to attack and murder an able bodied girl out jogging and cycle away.
Should he have been entitled to benefits for the rest of his life, with no one daring to get an update on his medical status? Apparently so according to the left.



Yes because the disabled are all secretly just itching to go out and murder people. Especially those dirty foreign disbaled.

At the time, disability activists formed a coalition to oppose her Thatcherite plans. She refused to meet them. Just as she refused to meet her constituent Lucia O'Farrell about the death of her son. Like all Thatcherites, her first instict is to punch down on the most vulnerable people in society.

Dag Dog

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 09:20:25 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 08:57:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on October 24, 2025, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 08:11:00 PMBetter a useless President than a dangerous offensive one.

Hymphreys tried to force disabled people to go through degrading examinations to test their fitness for work. That's the sort of Thatherite policies that I find offensive, but each to their own.

What's wrong with someone on disability benefits for having to do an occasional recheck?

Josef Puska was able bodied enough to attack and murder an able bodied girl out jogging and cycle away.
Should he have been entitled to benefits for the rest of his life, with no one daring to get an update on his medical status? Apparently so according to the left.


As with everything, theres a sensible middle on this one. The amount of c***ts getting dla with nothing wrong with them is unreal, but then on the opposite side theres horror stories of genuinely disabled people having benefits cut and being forced into work.

Surely it's possible to balance this?

There is a balance. But the idea that people claiming benefits are untouchable for the rest of their life is crackers.

Dag Dog

Quote from: Snapchap on October 24, 2025, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 08:11:00 PMBetter a useless President than a dangerous offensive one.

Hymphreys tried to force disabled people to go through degrading examinations to test their fitness for work. That's the sort of Thatherite policies that I find offensive, but each to their own.

So if a fella is playing the system, he's entitled to benefits for the rest of his life unchecked?


Hand of God

Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 10:41:18 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on October 24, 2025, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 08:11:00 PMBetter a useless President than a dangerous offensive one.

Hymphreys tried to force disabled people to go through degrading examinations to test their fitness for work. That's the sort of Thatherite policies that I find offensive, but each to their own.

So if a fella is playing the system, he's entitled to benefits for the rest of his life unchecked?



They are checked.

The issue was the same crowd who let big business go unregulated want to degrade and dehumanize people getting benefits.

Dag Dog

Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 10:41:18 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on October 24, 2025, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 08:11:00 PMBetter a useless President than a dangerous offensive one.

Hymphreys tried to force disabled people to go through degrading examinations to test their fitness for work. That's the sort of Thatherite policies that I find offensive, but each to their own.

So if a fella is playing the system, he's entitled to benefits for the rest of his life unchecked?



They are checked.

The issue was the same crowd who let big business go unregulated want to degrade and dehumanize people getting benefits.

Where did they say they wanted to degrade and dehumanize people?
Most benefits are subject to conditions. You get jobseekers allowance, but you're supposed to be actively looking for work.

Left wing nutters want unlimited and unconditional money for wasters. No terms, no conditions, no questions asked.


Look-Up!

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Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 10:41:18 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on October 24, 2025, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 08:11:00 PMBetter a useless President than a dangerous offensive one.

Hymphreys tried to force disabled people to go through degrading examinations to test their fitness for work. That's the sort of Thatherite policies that I find offensive, but each to their own.

So if a fella is playing the system, he's entitled to benefits for the rest of his life unchecked?



They are checked.

The issue was the same crowd who let big business go unregulated want to degrade and dehumanize people getting benefits.
That's a bit much. So when a doctor signs off on them going on the sick that's ok. But if they go in for a re-check and he says they're fit for work that's degrading and dehumanizing.

Dag Dog

Quote from: Look-Up! on October 24, 2025, 10:50:22 AM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on October 24, 2025, 10:41:18 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on October 24, 2025, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 23, 2025, 08:11:00 PMBetter a useless President than a dangerous offensive one.

Hymphreys tried to force disabled people to go through degrading examinations to test their fitness for work. That's the sort of Thatherite policies that I find offensive, but each to their own.

So if a fella is playing the system, he's entitled to benefits for the rest of his life unchecked?



They are checked.

The issue was the same crowd who let big business go unregulated want to degrade and dehumanize people getting benefits.
That's a bit much. So when a doctor signs off on them going on the sick that's ok. But if they go in for a re-check and he says they're fit for work that's degrading and dehumanizing.

It wouldn't be like left wingers to have a hysterical over reaction to distract from a touchy subject.
How dare you!