All Ireland Championship 2025.

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J70

Monaghan by 4
Armagh by 2
Donegal by 2
Cork by 4

Realistically, I think Donegal-Tyrone could go either way, and I honestly don't know what to expect from Derry. Predicting here on the assumption they've recovered some form, but Armagh's greater current depth will tell.

Easttyrone23

Quote from: Main Street on May 24, 2025, 12:46:33 AMI see Monaghan are at odds on to beat Louth, 1/2 - 1/3, hard to credit that Ulster's also rans could be that hot to beat the Leinster champions. I can hope that this time the bookies are not wrong, but I'd say it's more of a 51/49 game in Louth's favour at kick off time.

Monaghan had been a consistent div 1 team over the last decade until their relegation last year and have bounced straight back up to div 1 at the first time of asking. They have also reached the all Ireland semi finals twice in the last 4 years.

On what basis would they not be favourites for that game?

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: J70 on May 24, 2025, 01:44:41 AMMonaghan by 4
Armagh by 2
Donegal by 2
Cork by 4

Realistically, I think Donegal-Tyrone could go either way, and I honestly don't know what to expect from Derry. Predicting here on the assumption they've recovered some form, but Armagh's greater current depth will tell.

Tyrone are the one team in the country with the most scope for improvement. With the exception of Dublin before last weekend.

Just don't know what you're going to get from them.


They won't get a better chance to beat Donegal than today.

As much as I'd love to see Derry back competing at the top I just can't see how they can raise a gallop today giving the team named but I hope I'm wrong.

Cork Meath game another unknown really too.

Monaghan should have too much for Louth id imagine.

4 great games to look forward to.

Angus MacGyver

Quote from: Main Street on May 24, 2025, 12:46:33 AMI see Monaghan are at odds on to beat Louth, 1/2 - 1/3, hard to credit that Ulster's also rans could be that hot to beat the Leinster champions. I can hope that this time the bookies are not wrong, but I'd say it's more of a 51/49 game in Louth's favour at kick off time.

Louth are very consistent and structured, so you know what you'll get. Like their manager really. They suffocated Meath out of the LF by playeing very smart, plus they now have excellent strike options.

Monaghan on the other hand could light up the place with great football one day, and then flop the next. Up front Woods, McCarron, O'Hanlon, Mohan are either unstoppable or anonymous, depending on the day.  Despite nearly 2 decades of competing at a relatively high level at this stage, they still struggle with expectation.

Today will be interesting as a result. Monaghan's best is a bit above Louth, Monaghan's ordinary is well below Louth. That's the conundrum for Gabriel Bannigan.

Armagh18

Louth are a very very tough team to beat, very well set up and talent to punish teams as well. The Monaghan match will depend on how they cone down from the high of the last couple of weeks, hard to call.

HokeyPokey

It's hard to know where Tyrone are at. We did well to stay with Armagh and probably should have won, despite having a bizarre kick out strategy which completely backfired, yet was persisted with.

Paudie Hampsey and Conor Meyler's returns could be very important further down the line if they can get back to their best.

Main Street

Quote from: Easttyrone23 on May 24, 2025, 02:24:40 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 24, 2025, 12:46:33 AMI see Monaghan are at odds on to beat Louth, 1/2 - 1/3, hard to credit that Ulster's also rans could be that hot to beat the Leinster champions. I can hope that this time the bookies are not wrong, but I'd say it's more of a 51/49 game in Louth's favour at kick off time.

Monaghan had been a consistent div 1 team over the last decade until their relegation last year and have bounced straight back up to div 1 at the first time of asking. They have also reached the all Ireland semi finals twice in the last 4 years.

On what basis would they not be favourites for that game?
Favourites is one thing, hot favourites is another. Louth drew with Monaghan last year in Clones at the same stage. By any measure Louth have impressed since, possibly what is a negative is any hangover effect. What's for sure in many of these type of games in the past, Monaghan have been overrated and underwhelmed on the day.

SouthOfThe Bann

Quote from: Main Street on May 24, 2025, 11:01:35 AM
Quote from: Easttyrone23 on May 24, 2025, 02:24:40 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 24, 2025, 12:46:33 AMI see Monaghan are at odds on to beat Louth, 1/2 - 1/3, hard to credit that Ulster's also rans could be that hot to beat the Leinster champions. I can hope that this time the bookies are not wrong, but I'd say it's more of a 51/49 game in Louth's favour at kick off time.

Monaghan had been a consistent div 1 team over the last decade until their relegation last year and have bounced straight back up to div 1 at the first time of asking. They have also reached the all Ireland semi finals twice in the last 4 years.

On what basis would they not be favourites for that game?
Favourites is one thing, hot favourites is another. Louth drew with Monaghan last year in Clones at the same stage. By any measure Louth have impressed since, possibly what is a negative is any hangover effect. What's for sure in many of these type of games in the past, Monaghan have been overrated and underwhelmed on the day.

That's a far point but some would argue Louth haven't been as impressive this year despite winning Leinster.

Struggled over Laois and Kildare shouldve beaten them. Meath had them on the racks in first half only for 3 brilliant goals from Louth kept them in the game. They closed out the game brilliantly that day though to their credit.

Monaghan have improved alot this year and I expect they'll have to much and will have a relatively comfortable win today

RedHand88

Louth playing in Newbridge today for their "home" game. Why was there no crying like there was for Antrim?

naka

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 24, 2025, 12:53:36 AMWeekend predictions

Louth v Monaghan - Monaghan by 7
Armagh v Derry - Armagh by 9
Meath v Cork - Cork by 2
Donegal v Tyrone - Tyrone by 2
Monaghan by 5
Armagh by 6
Cork by 3
Tyrone by 2

Rossfan

Quote from: RedHand88 on May 24, 2025, 11:33:44 AMLouth playing in Newbridge today for their "home" game. Why was there no crying like there was for Antrim?
T.O. says venues to be approved by CCCC.
They've been using Inniskeen but that's in Monaghan.
Newry not available it seems. Down in same group as Louth....
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

David McKeown

Quote from: HokeyPokey on May 24, 2025, 10:56:43 AMIt's hard to know where Tyrone are at. We did well to stay with Armagh and probably should have won, despite having a bizarre kick out strategy which completely backfired, yet was persisted with.

Paudie Hampsey and Conor Meyler's returns could be very important further down the line if they can get back to their best.

Yeah Tyrone had a lot of room for relatively easy improvement I felt after the Armagh match but the scoreline flattered them. That said I've read since there was a bug in the camp that week. So I'd be very interested in seeing where they are really at.
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Lamh Dhearg Alba

Big day for Tyrone. O'Rourke had a fair bit of work to do when he came in to fashion a strong team out of a very talented set of players who had lost their way badly. That was always going to take time and we were always going to have to be realistic but still, he's had a few months now, 7 league games and 2 in Ulster and really all building up to this group stage. Tyrone fans will really be hoping that whatever happens over the next couple of months that we see real progress and that means the team have to be competitive.

As an aside, would also be unfair to expect too much from Meyler but great to see him back. McGeary deserved great praise in 2021 but for me Meyler should have got the big personal award, he was absolutely fundamental to the success of that team and before the injuries hit he also maintained his form and leadership into 2022 when others lost their way.

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