Tailteann Cup 2025

Started by Cunny Funt, April 23, 2025, 01:13:12 PM

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Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2025, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 22, 2025, 09:18:27 PMThink this competition is on its last legs.

So one game and then out?


I'll be honest, I'd prefer less games but for some reason we are, at club level, happy with junior intermediate and senior but when it comes to intercounty it's crazy
We don't have inter county reserve games either.

We need to stop comparing the club game to the county game. They are nothing like each other.

trileacman

Quote from: FermGael on June 22, 2025, 08:24:56 PMWe were absolutely brutal today .
Kildare were not good by any means either.
We had a good chance as Kildare were very wasteful but we just have zero plan up front .
Defensively we were very solid but around the middle and in attack we just looked like a team without a plan.

Wicklow will be kicking themselves.
Jackson is an excellent keeper but that was a serious howler to bring Limerick back into to it

Limerick will trouble Kildare if Kildare don't improve.


As for the competition, it's just dying a death.
There is zero interest from supporters.
13000 in Croke Park.
Think that's tells you everything you need to know.
We have more at All Ireland b finals in the 90s

Seems the hurling snobbery has now took root in football too. Corral the smaller counties off into a dark corner and then sneer at them when their fans and players lose interest. When the fans of Wicklow, Kildare, Fermanagh and Limerick see the Tailteann Cup for the tin pot it is then what defence can you make for it?

The tiers in hurling has absolutely reinforced the strata of county hurlers and have done nothing for the 2nd and 3rd tier counties except shovel them off the scene. Now it seems we are delighted to do the same with vast swathes of the football landscapes especially with counties who have shown that when given funding, organisation and good tacticians can mix it with the top teams.

The Tailteann Cup is dying on it's feet and yet the fior Gaels attitude on GAAboard is "fck them, they think they're better than it." Maybe an idea would be to maybe give these counties a chance again? Revive the structures that allowed them to compete and win things until recently?
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Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

Rossfan

Having the 2 semis as a standalone day in Croker was touted as one of the plus points of the competition.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 22, 2025, 10:14:23 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 22, 2025, 10:10:39 PMPlaying the Tailteann in Croke Park does nothing for it. Contrast the atmosphere and occasion at Newry today, with only 1k people more at the game.

 Our Association needs to move the mindset of all competitions away from "getting a run out at Croke Park" being an objective. Winning a championship should be the objective.
Yeah 100%.

Although f**k me if Fermanagh/Kildare/Wicklow people can't be bothered getting out of the house to support their teams pushing for a realistic chance at silverware then what hope do you have. (Limerick as a county have obviously been spoiled with the hurling success lately.)
You're only interested in what you're interested in.
Sure, the ladies games could be packed out with people looking out of the house following their county in the quest for a cup. But, they aren't.

trileacman

Quote from: Rossfan on June 22, 2025, 10:20:45 PMHaving the 2 semis as a standalone day in Croker was touted as one of the plus points of the competition.


It has proved to be a disaster although it'll surely suit the accountants in Croke Park and the GAA journalists when it gets moved to provincial venues next year. The media will get to ignore it, which is what they want, and the GAA will get to focus it's funding and attention on the top tier counties which is what they want.
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Ciarrai_thuaidh

I'd agree playing games in Croke park did nothing today and was a political decision that made sense in some committee meeting but didn't translate to reality. It might not be as enticing but a packed Tullamore or Portlaoise might have been better.

Don't understand the Fermanagh negativity when they have never won a national title or Ulster title. But fine if that's their attitude.

Limerick  deserve huge credit. They're in a county where Football is 5th/6th fiddle and miles behind hurling, rugby and soccer so this would be massive for them. There's men from all over the county but there's a hardcore bunch in West Limerick which is serious football country as much as anywhere in the land. We'd often slag them down here and say they'd be better off joining Kerry but they deserve their day in the sun.
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

Milltown Row2

Sure get rid of the Tailteann cup, let those counties ( who at the start actually compete to be in the Sam Maguire) be out of championship from the moment they get bate in their championship.

Less games and less annoyance
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2025, 10:27:19 PMSure get rid of the Tailteann cup, let those counties ( who at the start actually compete to be in the Sam Maguire) be out of championship from the moment they get bate in their championship.

Less games and less annoyance
Sounds fair. We did similar when we gassed the Tommy Murphy Cup.
Most would rather they were back playing club football anyway.

Stickittotheman

Quote from: trileacman on June 22, 2025, 10:20:09 PM
Quote from: FermGael on June 22, 2025, 08:24:56 PMWe were absolutely brutal today .
Kildare were not good by any means either.
We had a good chance as Kildare were very wasteful but we just have zero plan up front .
Defensively we were very solid but around the middle and in attack we just looked like a team without a plan.

Wicklow will be kicking themselves.
Jackson is an excellent keeper but that was a serious howler to bring Limerick back into to it

Limerick will trouble Kildare if Kildare don't improve.


As for the competition, it's just dying a death.
There is zero interest from supporters.
13000 in Croke Park.
Think that's tells you everything you need to know.
We have more at All Ireland b finals in the 90s

Seems the hurling snobbery has now took root in football too. Corral the smaller counties off into a dark corner and then sneer at them when their fans and players lose interest. When the fans of Wicklow, Kildare, Fermanagh and Limerick see the Tailteann Cup for the tin pot it is then what defence can you make for it?

The tiers in hurling has absolutely reinforced the strata of county hurlers and have done nothing for the 2nd and 3rd tier counties except shovel them off the scene. Now it seems we are delighted to do the same with vast swathes of the football landscapes especially with counties who have shown that when given funding, organisation and good tacticians can mix it with the top teams.

The Tailteann Cup is dying on it's feet and yet the fior Gaels attitude on GAAboard is "fck them, they think they're better than it." Maybe an idea would be to maybe give these counties a chance again? Revive the structures that allowed them to compete and win things until recently?

Would you really rather the old system where you might play two games and you are gone? Or maybe you would prefer to get walloped by 20 points playing the best in the country. A great way to treat the players, management and fans. 20 quid to see your team get destroyed. Players getting disillusioned after training all winter to be eliminated in two games. What a reward.

Or compete in the competition you are in and support your team trying to win it.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 22, 2025, 10:30:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2025, 10:27:19 PMSure get rid of the Tailteann cup, let those counties ( who at the start actually compete to be in the Sam Maguire) be out of championship from the moment they get bate in their championship.

Less games and less annoyance
Sounds fair. We did similar when we gassed the Tommy Murphy Cup.
Most would rather they were back playing club football anyway.

So you're not into a tier competition set up at intercounty, but ok at club level or is it a pointless range of competitions?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2025, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 22, 2025, 10:30:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2025, 10:27:19 PMSure get rid of the Tailteann cup, let those counties ( who at the start actually compete to be in the Sam Maguire) be out of championship from the moment they get bate in their championship.

Less games and less annoyance
Sounds fair. We did similar when we gassed the Tommy Murphy Cup.
Most would rather they were back playing club football anyway.

So you're not into a tier competition set up at intercounty, but ok at club level or is it a pointless range of competitions?
Stop comparing club and county. It's futile.

But.....it's not about me or what I think*. It's the supporters of all these counties. They aren't on board. I don't think you'll get them on board. We couldn't do it for Tommy Murphy either.

* Antrim went rightly in this competition in previous years. I watched with some interest but meh really. The competition isn't "below" Antrim btw but it didn't really interest me. I don't think I can help that.

Stickittotheman

Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 22, 2025, 10:26:20 PMI'd agree playing games in Croke park did nothing today and was a political decision that made sense in some committee meeting but didn't translate to reality. It might not be as enticing but a packed Tullamore or Portlaoise might have been better.

Don't understand the Fermanagh negativity when they have never won a national title or Ulster title. But fine if that's their attitude.

Limerick  deserve huge credit. They're in a county where Football is 5th/6th fiddle and miles behind hurling, rugby and soccer so this would be massive for them. There's men from all over the county but there's a hardcore bunch in West Limerick which is serious football country as much as anywhere in the land. We'd often slag them down here and say they'd be better off joining Kerry but they deserve their day in the sun.

It was a brilliant win for Limerick and the footballers who have been completely overshadowed, by one of the greatest hurling teams ever. They get their day in the sun and a just reward for a few years of hard toil with very little to shout about.

Armagh18

Players/managers seem to be fully bought in to the TC for the most part, I know how delighted Oisin McConville was last week after their win and I'm sure he'll be devastated this evening, as will his players and I'm sure Fermanagh will be the same.

Question is what can the GAA do to get fans engaged?

Armagh18

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 22, 2025, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2025, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 22, 2025, 10:30:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2025, 10:27:19 PMSure get rid of the Tailteann cup, let those counties ( who at the start actually compete to be in the Sam Maguire) be out of championship from the moment they get bate in their championship.

Less games and less annoyance
Sounds fair. We did similar when we gassed the Tommy Murphy Cup.
Most would rather they were back playing club football anyway.

So you're not into a tier competition set up at intercounty, but ok at club level or is it a pointless range of competitions?
Stop comparing club and county. It's futile.

But.....it's not about me or what I think*. It's the supporters of all these counties. They aren't on board. I don't think you'll get them on board. We couldn't do it for Tommy Murphy either.

* Antrim went rightly in this competition in previous years. I watched with some interest but meh really. The competition isn't "below" Antrim btw but it didn't really interest me. I don't think I can help that.
Why? Surely a realistic chance at winning something is more appealing than watching them getting clippings or at best a morale boosting performance?

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 22, 2025, 10:41:46 PMPlayers/managers seem to be fully bought in to the TC for the most part, I know how delighted Oisin McConville was last week after their win and I'm sure he'll be devastated this evening, as will his players and I'm sure Fermanagh will be the same.

Question is what can the GAA do to get fans engaged?
Probably handier when you're getting paid right enough.