Ulster Championship 2025

[David McKeown]

It sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.

You could hear it a good few seconds before he kicked it but also took a few secs to be picked up on the closest mics

So you're saying that the hooter blew some 3 or 4 seconds before Ryan kicked the ball and on top of that it took 2 or 3 seconds for the hooter sound to travel to the microphone?

You're some hoot.
 

Watching on GAA+ it was hard to tell because it sounded like whatever primary microphone they were using for the game was very near a young girl and you could hear her asking questions which was distracting. The Sunday game audio definitely sounded like a kick before the hooter went. Hard to tell though there couldn't have been much in it.

What age are you lads?! Get your hearing aids adjusted - MR2 can help you. The hooter was clearly* going off before the ball crossed the sideline. I don't know what way the speakers are arranged but you could hear it in the background and then it got louder. There is a video on Twitter from the other side of the pitch which indicates the same. The Maor Uisce standing in the road didn't help him get the ball away.

*Could be an air horn in the crowd 😏

As I've said it could well have been going off but took a second or so to be picked up on the mic. On the Sunday game recording though it seemed like boot to ball noise then hooter noise almost immediately after. I'll have a listen to the GAA + feed later to see.

[thebigfullforward]

Tyrone v Armagh then...Bookies have Tyrone slight favourites to win this game and the pundits are bigging up Tyrone saying they're back as contenders but how do they base this on one game v a very poor Cavan team. I know Armagh have had a fair few injuries lately but Armagh destroyed them in league and are All Ireland Champions yet Tyrone are fav's. Do bookies and pundits know more than me?. (TBF most people know more than me...lol) I'm just basing this on facts and results, I think Armagh will beat Tyrone TBH but the mighty Down/Donegal will await (more likely the mighty Donegal).

Not sure what they're judging off. Would expect Canavan to be back for us but even then Armagh are just to physical. Even their second string are bigger, taller, faster, just more athletic in general. Can't see us getting within 7 points of them

[Too many steps]

It sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.

You could hear it a good few seconds before he kicked it but also took a few secs to be picked up on the closest mics

So you're saying that the hooter blew some 3 or 4 seconds before Ryan kicked the ball and on top of that it took 2 or 3 seconds for the hooter sound to travel to the microphone?

You're some hoot.
 

Watching on GAA+ it was hard to tell because it sounded like whatever primary microphone they were using for the game was very near a young girl and you could hear her asking questions which was distracting. The Sunday game audio definitely sounded like a kick before the hooter went. Hard to tell though there couldn't have been much in it.

What age are you lads?! Get your hearing aids adjusted - MR2 can help you. The hooter was clearly* going off before the ball crossed the sideline. I don't know what way the speakers are arranged but you could hear it in the background and then it got louder. There is a video on Twitter from the other side of the pitch which indicates the same. The Maor Uisce standing in the road didn't help him get the ball away.

*Could be an air horn in the crowd 😏

As I've said it could well have been going off but took a second or so to be picked up on the mic. On the Sunday game recording though it seemed like boot to ball noise then hooter noise almost immediately after. I'll have a listen to the GAA + feed later to see.

Speed of sound is not an issue - 330m/s so at most about 1/3 sec before it reaches any mic in the ground (it will be picked up immediately by the mic) and the hooter can be heard about 2 secs before the sideline was taken so no issues there - ref got that right.

Bigger issue with the hooter rule was in the Down/Ferm match, but as it didn't affect the result no one is talking about it.

From my reading of the rule in the RTE report (and in lack of anyone seeming to have the official version in the rules - although you would assume that the version in quotes in the RTE report is straight from the rules?) there are 2 issues at he end of the Down match.

1. the 45 should not have been taken as the hooter clearly sounded about 8 secs before the ball went out for the 45.

2. even if the 45 was correctly awarded (i.e.awarded before hooter) the rule seems to imply that you have to score direct from the resulting kick (the only other player allowed to touch it is the keeper) so Fermanagh would have had to score a goal directly from the kick or the keeper would have to deflect/drop the kick into the net.

As it was the Ferm player collected the ball and scored a point - which was awarded (incorrectly if the wording on RTE is correct). Which also means that if that player had scored a goal the ref would have allowed that to stand which would have sent the match to ET.

So am I right in thinking ref got this wrong. If similar situation happens and it did affect the result it could be very controversial.

Here's the RTE quote:
"If a 45 has been awarded but not taken, before the hooter sounds, the free kick can be taken and, if it results in a score, without any other player touching the ball, that score shall be awarded."

Seems fairly clear unless anyone knows that the wording in the official rules is different?

[snoopdog]

How hard is it to get an air horn that's loud enough for the whole ground to hear. There wasn't even 5k in enniskillen and I didn't hear it at end of either half in the main stand.
 

[flowerpot]

At least when the ref blew the final whistle he made a motion signalling the end so no one was in any doubt. In Armagh Antrim game Antrim stopped when hooter sounded could be carnage in some matches the amount of air horns at games,another well thought out rule perfectly executed I'm sure in the words of the untouchable Eammon in the sandbox games.

[AustinPowers]

At least when the ref blew the final whistle he made a motion signalling the end so no one was in any doubt. In Armagh Antrim game Antrim stopped when hooter sounded could be carnage in some matches the amount of air horns at games,another well thought out rule perfectly executed I'm sure in the words of the untouchable Eammon in the sandbox games.

Also, did  they think  about club games taking  place near  where a fog horn might sound?  Or a  ships horn?

They really  didn't think this through did they?

[flowerpot]

A clock the size of a digital watch is most grounds and only at one end, someone will win this year's All Ireland by accident.

[David McKeown]

It sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.

You could hear it a good few seconds before he kicked it but also took a few secs to be picked up on the closest mics

So you're saying that the hooter blew some 3 or 4 seconds before Ryan kicked the ball and on top of that it took 2 or 3 seconds for the hooter sound to travel to the microphone?

You're some hoot.
 

Watching on GAA+ it was hard to tell because it sounded like whatever primary microphone they were using for the game was very near a young girl and you could hear her asking questions which was distracting. The Sunday game audio definitely sounded like a kick before the hooter went. Hard to tell though there couldn't have been much in it.

What age are you lads?! Get your hearing aids adjusted - MR2 can help you. The hooter was clearly* going off before the ball crossed the sideline. I don't know what way the speakers are arranged but you could hear it in the background and then it got louder. There is a video on Twitter from the other side of the pitch which indicates the same. The Maor Uisce standing in the road didn't help him get the ball away.

*Could be an air horn in the crowd 😏

As I've said it could well have been going off but took a second or so to be picked up on the mic. On the Sunday game recording though it seemed like boot to ball noise then hooter noise almost immediately after. I'll have a listen to the GAA + feed later to see.

Just watched it again on GAA + hooter clearly goes before the ball is kicked it seems to start before the Monaghan official gets in the way of the kick being taken, it doesn't seem to start before the ball goes out of play.  Seems a pretty long hooter too

[Milltown Row2]

It sounded like the sideline was kicked just before the hooter there when they showed it again on the Sunday game. Although that may be a speed of sound thing depending on where the microphones were.

You could hear it a good few seconds before he kicked it but also took a few secs to be picked up on the closest mics

So you're saying that the hooter blew some 3 or 4 seconds before Ryan kicked the ball and on top of that it took 2 or 3 seconds for the hooter sound to travel to the microphone?

You're some hoot.
 

Watching on GAA+ it was hard to tell because it sounded like whatever primary microphone they were using for the game was very near a young girl and you could hear her asking questions which was distracting. The Sunday game audio definitely sounded like a kick before the hooter went. Hard to tell though there couldn't have been much in it.

What age are you lads?! Get your hearing aids adjusted - MR2 can help you. The hooter was clearly* going off before the ball crossed the sideline. I don't know what way the speakers are arranged but you could hear it in the background and then it got louder. There is a video on Twitter from the other side of the pitch which indicates the same. The Maor Uisce standing in the road didn't help him get the ball away.

*Could be an air horn in the crowd 😏

As I've said it could well have been going off but took a second or so to be picked up on the mic. On the Sunday game recording though it seemed like boot to ball noise then hooter noise almost immediately after. I'll have a listen to the GAA + feed later to see.

Just watched it again on GAA + hooter clearly goes before the ball is kicked it seems to start before the Monaghan official gets in the way of the kick being taken, it doesn't seem to start before the ball goes out of play.  Seems a pretty long hooter too

Barry Manilow size?  Is it the start of the hooter or end?

[Armagh18]

Tyrone v Armagh then...Bookies have Tyrone slight favourites to win this game and the pundits are bigging up Tyrone saying they're back as contenders but how do they base this on one game v a very poor Cavan team. I know Armagh have had a fair few injuries lately but Armagh destroyed them in league and are All Ireland Champions yet Tyrone are fav's. Do bookies and pundits know more than me?. (TBF most people know more than me...lol) I'm just basing this on facts and results, I think Armagh will beat Tyrone TBH but the mighty Down/Donegal will await (more likely the mighty Donegal).

Not sure what they're judging off. Would expect Canavan to be back for us but even then Armagh are just to physical. Even their second string are bigger, taller, faster, just more athletic in general. Can't see us getting within 7 points of them

we will get cleaned at midfield if we dont get a few back. 

[balladmaker]

Tyrone v Armagh then...Bookies have Tyrone slight favourites to win this game and the pundits are bigging up Tyrone saying they're back as contenders but how do they base this on one game v a very poor Cavan team. I know Armagh have had a fair few injuries lately but Armagh destroyed them in league and are All Ireland Champions yet Tyrone are fav's. Do bookies and pundits know more than me?. (TBF most people know more than me...lol) I'm just basing this on facts and results, I think Armagh will beat Tyrone TBH but the mighty Down/Donegal will await (more likely the mighty Donegal).

Not sure what they're judging off. Would expect Canavan to be back for us but even then Armagh are just to physical. Even their second string are bigger, taller, faster, just more athletic in general. Can't see us getting within 7 points of them

we will get cleaned at midfield if we dont get a few back. 

Any word on how close Grimley and Crealey are to fitness?

[illdecide]

If Tyrone are gonna beat us then it will be from midfield as we're struggling there atm with injuries and Tyrone have 2 big men in there who can play. Grimley was due back to training last week but can't see Crealey making this game, he was brought back too early from a hamstring injury and that has bit Armagh on the arse. Professional footballers with around the clock treatment are usually out for 8 weeks with a hamstring but GAA players seem to think they can come back in 3 weeks.
Turbit and Conaty will be fine who didn't play against Antrim other than that I dunno who will be in or out.

[Captain Obvious]

Tyrone are talking themselves up as All Ireland contenders again and coming up against a fairly patched up Armagh who was poor for half the match against a Division four Antrim. It's very much Tyrone's game to lose.

[tyrone08]

Tyrone are talking themselves up as All Ireland contenders again and coming up against a fairly patched up Armagh who was poor for half the match against a Division four Antrim. It's very much Tyrone's game to lose.

Literally not one tyrone person talking the team up. Looks like use armagh ones feeling the pressure. Tyrone regalted to div 2 with a new management up against current ai champions.  Be some upset if tyrone did win.

[statto]

Tyrone are talking themselves up as All Ireland contenders again and coming up against a fairly patched up Armagh who was poor for half the match against a Division four Antrim. It's very much Tyrone's game to lose.

Literally not one tyrone person talking the team up. Looks like use armagh ones feeling the pressure. Tyrone regalted to div 2 with a new management up against current ai champions.  Be some upset if tyrone did win.

And that's why the bookies have them as favourites to win game.