Ulster Championship 2025

Started by Goals_Will_Come, March 25, 2025, 10:16:10 AM

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marty34

Every team needs to take one game at a time. That's the main thing now.

No point worrying about/planning for 2 or 3 games down the line.

A cliché but win next game by 1pt then reset and go again. That's all that matters.

flowerpot

Quote from: Blowitupref on April 13, 2025, 10:38:46 PM
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Quote from: Truthsayer on April 13, 2025, 06:11:23 PMTyrone need Darragh back but did what was needed.
He wasn't missed today, Without him managed a shooting efficiency of 75% today.

They will need him back . He is the one forward that is good for a goal. McCurry happy to chip over pts, but doesn't look to create goal chances.

With or without him they'll likely beat Armagh if they have 75% shooting efficiency again.

75 percent of 20 is 15, do you know how many shots they'll have against Armagh?

Blowitupref

Quote from: flowerpot on April 13, 2025, 10:43:55 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 13, 2025, 10:38:46 PM
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Quote from: Truthsayer on April 13, 2025, 06:11:23 PMTyrone need Darragh back but did what was needed.
He wasn't missed today, Without him managed a shooting efficiency of 75% today.

They will need him back . He is the one forward that is good for a goal. McCurry happy to chip over pts, but doesn't look to create goal chances.

With or without him they'll likely beat Armagh if they have 75% shooting efficiency again.

75 percent of 20 is 15, do you know how many shots they'll have against Armagh?
Under the new rules I would expect over 30 shots.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

flowerpot

Get your money on paddy power. I'm assuming you also know how many shots Armagh will have and their success rate.

rodney trotter

Quote from: Blowitupref on April 13, 2025, 10:38:46 PM
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Quote from: Truthsayer on April 13, 2025, 06:11:23 PMTyrone need Darragh back but did what was needed.
He wasn't missed today, Without him managed a shooting efficiency of 75% today.

They will need him back . He is the one forward that is good for a goal. McCurry happy to chip over pts, but doesn't look to create goal chances.

With or without him they'll likely beat Armagh if they have 75% shooting efficiency again.

In fairness they weren't shooting under much pressure today. It was like a challenge game. Tyrone didn't take on any 2 pointers when they had the wind. They might need them the next day.

tyroneman

Bar Morgan trying one long range free off the ground I don't believe Tyrone even attempted any 2 pointers. Strange approach given Armagh, Donegal (and 2nd half Cavan) being fairly adept at it.

Still not a fan of the rule to be honest ..Cavan were second best by a long way but the scoreline belied that fact at times. Gives a punchers chance to teams who are being well beaten. Exciting for crowd but not reflective of overall game.

Feel it kinda dulls a goal too.

Am sure supporters of any team mounting a 2point led comeback will disagree wholeheartedly though.

Wildweasel74

I think 2pters need to be exceptional scores, ie: from beyond the 45m line from play. The amount of 2pters in recent weeks shows it ain't actually that hard if you got a big boot. When u consider all the effort to try score a goal for 3pts, when 2 50m infringements can be scored for 4pts

tiempo

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Its looks proportionally easier for players at the top level to score 2 pointers, as it should be

Mickey Harte makes a good point, with having to keep 3 up there's no need for 2 pointers

Saffron_sam20

Quote from: tiempo on April 14, 2025, 09:04:09 AMIts looks proportionally easier for players at the top level to score 2 pointers, as it should be

Mickey Harte makes a good point, with having to keep 3 up there's no need for 2 pointers

this is it, with the space with the 3 up it would encourage working goals more that working the ball round the arc for 2pts. we have inflated score lines but higher scoring doesnt really mean better. The 3 up was plenty.

AustinPowers

Christ , but I hate  these 2 pointers. Among other things

Christmas Lights

Quote from: tyroneman on April 14, 2025, 06:09:55 AMBar Morgan trying one long range free off the ground I don't believe Tyrone even attempted any 2 pointers. Strange approach given Armagh, Donegal (and 2nd half Cavan) being fairly adept at it.

Still not a fan of the rule to be honest ..Cavan were second best by a long way but the scoreline belied that fact at times. Gives a punchers chance to teams who are being well beaten. Exciting for crowd but not reflective of overall game.

Feel it kinda dulls a goal too.

Am sure supporters of any team mounting a 2point led comeback will disagree wholeheartedly though.

Id agree with all of that.

twohands!!!

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 14, 2025, 08:10:03 AMI think 2pters need to be exceptional scores, ie: from beyond the 45m line from play. The amount of 2pters in recent weeks shows it ain't actually that hard if you got a big boot. When u consider all the effort to try score a goal for 3pts, when 2 50m infringements can be scored for 4pts

Really can't help but think that the four points for a goal should have been kept.

On a separate note I think the amount of 50m infringements being given away at the moment reflects very poorly on players. Far too many people seem to be blaming either the rule or refs when in 99% of the cases it is the correct decision. I would have thought that it would be the case that seeing one given away was a rarity by now given how costly breaking these rules are. I would imagine as the championship goes on the number will drop significantly.Given the penalty managers should surely be benching any player giving these away with any sort of regularity.

On a related note I've often thought it reflects poorly on the standard of GAA management/game intelligence/coaching how little managers seem to care about players who constantly commit fouls - so many managers seem to blame the refs for enforcing the rules as opposed to assigning responsibility to the players who are constantly giving the opposition easy scoring chances in every game they play.

Armagh18

Think the 2 pointer needs taken outside the 45 especially at county level. Any decent club player will score a free from the edge of the arc.

RedHand88

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 14, 2025, 08:10:03 AMI think 2pters need to be exceptional scores, ie: from beyond the 45m line from play. The amount of 2pters in recent weeks shows it ain't actually that hard if you got a big boot. When u consider all the effort to try score a goal for 3pts, when 2 50m infringements can be scored for 4pts

Cavan hit a few on the bounce yesterday, none of which seemed like exceptional scores. That's 6 points like.

the goal was on

With a strong breeze its like a 25/30 yard shot for those players. Definitely not worth 2 points.